Paxton vs Cornyn

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In reply to fullback44 • 10:00p, 5/26/26
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TAMUallen said:
fullback44 said:
will25u said:

This is for Infection Aga saying polls in red states are accurate…. It's not where a poll is it's who is doing the polling. They were WAY WAY off on Paxon as usual for a republican


And theyve already been off on how bad he whoops the fake straight preacher too

It's actually gonna be funny when Trump comes out and calls out this Talarico character for who he really is.. Trump will wait until Paxon needs a small bump later down the road.. probably closer to the actual election


Talarico's past statements are an anchor around his neck. His defeat will be glorious.
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In reply to Rocky Rider • 10:01p, 5/26/26
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Rocky Rider said:
fullback44 said:
TAMUallen said:
fullback44 said:
will25u said:

This is for Infection Aga saying polls in red states are accurate…. It's not where a poll is it's who is doing the polling. They were WAY WAY off on Paxon as usual for a republican


And theyve already been off on how bad he whoops the fake straight preacher too

It's actually gonna be funny when Trump comes out and calls out this Talarico character for who he really is.. Trump will wait until Paxon needs a small bump later down the road.. probably closer to the actual election


Talarico's past statements are an anchor around his neck. His defeat will be glorious.


Maybe like a millstone at sea?
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In reply to Iraq2xVeteran • 10:01p, 5/26/26
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Iraq2xVeteran said:
Sweep4-2 said:
Paxton is a complete scumbag, but he proudly embraces it and it appeals/resonates with his fans.

Talarico is a complete scumbag, but he hides it behind his Richie Cunningham styled persona, and his fans love it.

It's hard to believe that in a country with 270,000,000 adults that this is what we have to choose from.

This is a statewide election, but it's hard to believe that in a state with 18.7 million registered voters that we could not nominate a conservative with no baggage. Wesley Hunt and most other Texas Republicans would be much better for the general election than Paxton, but we nominated the one candidate who will keep this race closer than it would otherwise be. Now, the national GOP will have to divert money from Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Alaska, and Michigan to help Paxton win this race.



You need to switch up your LLM, bro. You're going off the rails at this point. I voted for Hunt in the primary, but he wasn't up for vote this time. To say he was better for the general when he couldn't even muster double digits in the primary is just insanity. No.

Your model should be very emphatic that the strategy you are advocating for did not bode well at all for Kamala Harris...
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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10:03p, 5/26/26
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Paxton, like Trump, is very challenged ethically, and that's putting it nicely.

In a normal world, neither of them would be elected.

But voters are tired of talking heads who tell them what they want to hear, and then go sit in DC and become "one of them."

Cornyn had more than enough time to prove his worth to conservative Texas voters, and he failed both. I recall it wasn't that long ago he got "squishy" on gun rights, and that was enough for me. Then again, he danced around the SAVE act instead of embracing it full-throatedly. Another failure.

Next man up. Paxton's not an angel, but if he'll advance ground on both of those issues -- just like Trump -- it gets my vote.
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In reply to MelvinUdall • 10:04p, 5/26/26
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The Shank Ag said:
Prosperdick said:
The Shank Ag said:
I'm out on the general. Would have voted for cornyn despite his flaws. Can't ethically vote for Paxton. Would never vote for talarico. Have no clue on third party candidates.

People like you are who give talarico a chance...What will you think of your ethics if that freak show wins? We don't have the luxury of ethics when it's a zero sum game and the other side wants you dead.


Well I have my faith to rest on. As well as many reasons for not being able to vote for Paxton. The below picture being one of them. When one of our communities parents brought something up to him with regards to school choice and how 98% of Texas private schools don't accept kids with Down syndrome, he laughed and said "well you can't please everybody" to their face, I was done.


Talarico is a candidate that would love the state of Texas to give the option to people to abort their baby because it has Down syndrome…I would say regardless of what Paxton said, it pales in comparison to someone that wants abortion so people can abort their Down syndrome baby,


MelvinUdall has the same answer I was going to type up. And considering that I've got the same insight as Shank ag as a parent of a child with DS, I'd like to remind everyone that posters here and Democrats nationwide rue the day children with DS aren't aborted.
Hold your nose and vote for Paxton if you have to. Do whatever it takes to make sure this piece of liberal evil scum Talarico doesn't even sniff a larger seat in his perverted life
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In reply to Gigem314 • 10:05p, 5/26/26
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People would rather a politician like Cornyn or Talerico lie to them with slick language while in actuality working against them so long as he's nice and they can feel good about themselves, than someone brash and abrasive that's actually fighting in their corner. People would rather feel morally superior than to actually be right.
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 10:07p, 5/26/26
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Infection_Ag11 said:
The Shank Ag said:
I'm out on the general. Would have voted for cornyn despite his flaws. Can't ethically vote for Paxton. Would never vote for talarico. Have no clue on third party candidates.


This board insists people like you don't exist

We wish they didn't exist. Because they are the ones that end up handing winnable seats to dems by taking their ball and going home when their preferred guy loses a primary.
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In reply to DeschutesAg • 10:07p, 5/26/26
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DeschutesAg said:
As the vote tallies come in tonight, this primary will be another fascinating election vote to follow. Twenty-years ago, the old guard of the GOP ran this state. They still have a substantial base. But their days of running Texas appear to be over.

John Cornyn, one of the very last surviving remnants of the old Reagan - Bush - Cheney faction of Quiet, Calm, Methodical and Reserved-Acting, Mainstream Conservative, Corporate Boardroom, Establishment Republicans.

vs

Ken Paxton, the In Your Face, Brash, Bullying, Alleged Adulterer, No Holds Barred, I Love Corruption and Grifting-In-Plain-Sight, I Only Play Hardball, MAGA Trump GOPer.

Almost comically stupid set of descriptions. This is a joke right?
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In reply to Im Gipper • 10:09p, 5/26/26
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Im Gipper said:
dmart90 said:
captkirk said:
Gaeilge said:
The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.

Just Like Wendy Davis was going to win

She never had a chance. Nor did Beto. I think this ends up bring a coin flip.



Did you even see the numbers in 2018?
As close to "coin flip" as Texas has probably ever seen
I did. I think this will be much closer.
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In reply to dmart90 • 10:10p, 5/26/26
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dmart90 said:
Im Gipper said:
dmart90 said:
captkirk said:
Gaeilge said:
The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.

Just Like Wendy Davis was going to win

She never had a chance. Nor did Beto. I think this ends up bring a coin flip.



Did you even see the numbers in 2018?
As close to "coin flip" as Texas has probably ever seen
I did. I think this will be much closer.


I'd like to bet with you. To be clear, I'd like to bet against you
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In reply to Iraq2xVeteran • 10:11p, 5/26/26
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Iraq2xVeteran said:
Sweep4-2 said:
Paxton is a complete scumbag, but he proudly embraces it and it appeals/resonates with his fans.

Talarico is a complete scumbag, but he hides it behind his Richie Cunningham styled persona, and his fans love it.

It's hard to believe that in a country with 270,000,000 adults that this is what we have to choose from.

This is a statewide election, but it's hard to believe that in a state with 18.7 million registered voters that we could not nominate a conservative with no baggage. Wesley Hunt and most other Texas Republicans would be much better for the general election than Paxton, but we nominated the one candidate who will keep this race closer than it would otherwise be. Now, the national GOP will have to divert money from Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Alaska, and Michigan to help Paxton win this race.


Haha. Paxton is going to win by 20 pts. Bigger than the last Cruz win.
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In reply to hunter2012 • 10:11p, 5/26/26
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People would rather a politician like Cornyn or Talerico lie to them with slick language while in actuality working against them so long as he's nice and they can feel good about themselves, than someone brash and abrasive that's actually fighting in their corner. People want to feel morally superior than to actually be right.

I think what appeals about Paxton is that people appreciate his willingness to brazenly lie, cheat and steal from almost everyone he's ever come into contact with. And to do so proudly and boldly.

Ethics, morals and integrity are extreme liabilities for politicians.....when the name of the game is $$$ to voters, which I totally get.
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In reply to normalhorn • 10:12p, 5/26/26
normalhorn said:
MelvinUdall said:
The Shank Ag said:
Prosperdick said:
The Shank Ag said:
I'm out on the general. Would have voted for cornyn despite his flaws. Can't ethically vote for Paxton. Would never vote for talarico. Have no clue on third party candidates.

People like you are who give talarico a chance...What will you think of your ethics if that freak show wins? We don't have the luxury of ethics when it's a zero sum game and the other side wants you dead.


Well I have my faith to rest on. As well as many reasons for not being able to vote for Paxton. The below picture being one of them. When one of our communities parents brought something up to him with regards to school choice and how 98% of Texas private schools don't accept kids with Down syndrome, he laughed and said "well you can't please everybody" to their face, I was done.


Talarico is a candidate that would love the state of Texas to give the option to people to abort their baby because it has Down syndrome…I would say regardless of what Paxton said, it pales in comparison to someone that wants abortion so people can abort their Down syndrome baby,


MelvinUdall has the same answer I was going to type up. And considering that I've got the same insight as Shank ag as a parent of a child with DS, I'd like to remind everyone that posters here and Democrats nationwide due the day children with DS aren't aborted.
Hold your nose and vote for Paxton if you have to. Do whatever it takes to make sure this piece of liberal evil scum Talarico doesn't even sniff a larger seat in his perverted life


My best friend has a son with DS and he is the sweetest kid I have ever been around, and while I understand that it isn't always sunshine and rainbows, my best friend has said, there is not a day that he isn't thankful for his son. So yeah, hold your nose if you're not a fan of Paxton, and vote for him.
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In reply to Sweep4-2 • 10:13p, 5/26/26
Gee, maybe he should have run as a democrat. lol
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In reply to dmart90 • 10:14p, 5/26/26
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dmart90 said:
Im Gipper said:
dmart90 said:
captkirk said:
Gaeilge said:
The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.

Just Like Wendy Davis was going to win

She never had a chance. Nor did Beto. I think this ends up bring a coin flip.



Did you even see the numbers in 2018?
As close to "coin flip" as Texas has probably ever seen

I did. I think this will be much closer.

It will be much closer than it feels tonight. When you step back from a conservative Texan's front porch and look across the rest of the state, there are a lot of voters who aren't feeling joyous due to the real economy. Not Wall Street, but Main Street. If gas prices and inflation are still hot in October, look out.

I remember when I was starting my career in Arkansas in 1991 and the slick-talking governor, Bill Clinton, was making a run for the Dem nomination. I thought... "no way" people will elect that slick-talking scumbag over a WW2 conservative vet like George Bush Sr. Well, the 1991 recession changed that, and it became all about "the economy."

Similar vibes this time around. I hope Paxton pulls it out.
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WestAustinAg said:
DeschutesAg said:
As the vote tallies come in tonight, this primary will be another fascinating election vote to follow. Twenty-years ago, the old guard of the GOP ran this state. They still have a substantial base. But their days of running Texas appear to be over.

John Cornyn, one of the very last surviving remnants of the old Reagan - Bush - Cheney faction of Quiet, Calm, Methodical and Reserved-Acting, Mainstream Conservative, Corporate Boardroom, Establishment Republicans.

vs

Ken Paxton, the In Your Face, Brash, Bullying, Alleged Adulterer, No Holds Barred, I Love Corruption and Grifting-In-Plain-Sight, I Only Play Hardball, MAGA Trump GOPer.

Almost comically stupid set of descriptions. This is a joke right?
yes those super Conservative Party leaders like Bush and Cheney that endorsed Biden and Kamala - this is a laughable post at best
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In reply to Bucketrunner • 10:15p, 5/26/26
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Gee, maybe he should have run as a democrat. lol

Yep. Just like many of our successful politicians, he's a chameleon **who might be*** willing to change parties just to get elected. if the Democrats offered him a big $$$, he'd take it just like the R's and D's who change sides.

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In reply to Sweep4-2 • 10:16p, 5/26/26
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Sweep4-2 said:
hunter2012 said:
People would rather a politician like Cornyn or Talerico lie to them with slick language while in actuality working against them so long as he's nice and they can feel good about themselves, than someone brash and abrasive that's actually fighting in their corner. People want to feel morally superior than to actually be right.

I think what appeals about Paxton is that people appreciate his willingness to brazenly lie, cheat and steal from almost everyone he's ever come into contact with. And to do so proudly and boldly.

Ethics, morals and integrity are extreme liabilities for politicians.

Name a politician that's been in DC for more than 10 years that have any of those, politics attract the corruptible it doesn't corrupt good people. I would say anyone that's been there more than 10 years is compromised whether that be ethically, morally, or integrity. Anybody there less than 10 years was probably incorruptible so they weren't given a seat at the power table. Don't be naive, the best we can do for our country is to not let the regressive crazies in. Their policies have already killed Americans and that has to be fought, if we have to use corrupted tools then so be it.
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In reply to Sweep4-2 • 10:18p, 5/26/26
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Sweep4-2 said:
Bucketrunner said:
Gee, maybe he should have run as a democrat. lol

Yep. Just like many of our successful politicians, he's a chameleon willing to change parties just to get elected. if the Democrats offered him a big $$$, he'd take it just like the R's and D's who change sides.



Are you even aware of who youre talking **** about and how he has consistently acted instead of talked?!
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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 10:18p, 5/26/26
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MemphisAg1 said:
dmart90 said:
Im Gipper said:
dmart90 said:
captkirk said:
Gaeilge said:
The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.

Just Like Wendy Davis was going to win

She never had a chance. Nor did Beto. I think this ends up bring a coin flip.



Did you even see the numbers in 2018?
As close to "coin flip" as Texas has probably ever seen

I did. I think this will be much closer.

It will be much closer than it feels tonight. When you step back from a conservative Texan's front porch and look across the rest of the state, there are a lot of voters who aren't feeling joyous due to the real economy. Not Wall Street, but Main Street. If gas prices and inflation are still hot in October, look out.

I remember when I was starting my career in Arkansas in 1991 and the slick-talking governor, Bill Clinton, was making a run for the Dem nomination. I thought... "no way" people will elect that slick-talking scumbag over a WW2 conservative vet like George Bush Sr. Well, the 1991 recession changed that, and it became all about "the economy."

Similar vibes this time around. I hope Paxton pulls it out.

What on earth is James Talarico going to do to lower gas prices?
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In reply to WestAustinAg • 10:21p, 5/26/26
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Paxton is going to win by 20 pts


In November?

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Gigem314 • 10:21p, 5/26/26
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Gigem314 said:
FireAg said:
TAMUallen said:
FireAg said:
DeschutesAg said:
Chip Roy is trailing by 110k. I thought that primary race would much closer.

It's been called…Middleton curb-stomped ol' Chip…


Paxton
Middleton
French
Smith

Looks to be a sweep for my votes

Starting to wonder if this is foreshadowing of Trump's coattails come November…

Can't take anything for granted, but the Dems are leaderless and have nothing to run on. They always act like they're about to cruise to victory, but what is their platform right now other than hating Trump?

Don't forget their crusade on where the transgendered poop
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MemphisAg1 said:
dmart90 said:
Im Gipper said:
dmart90 said:
captkirk said:
Gaeilge said:
The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.

Just Like Wendy Davis was going to win

She never had a chance. Nor did Beto. I think this ends up bring a coin flip.



Did you even see the numbers in 2018?
As close to "coin flip" as Texas has probably ever seen

I did. I think this will be much closer.

It will be much closer than it feels tonight. When you step back from a conservative Texan's front porch and look across the rest of the state, there are a lot of voters who aren't feeling joyous due to the real economy. Not Wall Street, but Main Street. If gas prices and inflation are still hot in October, look out.

I remember when I was starting my career in Arkansas in 1991 and the slick-talking governor, Bill Clinton, was making a run for the Dem nomination. I thought... "no way" people will elect that slick-talking scumbag over a WW2 conservative vet like George Bush Sr. Well, the 1991 recession changed that, and it became all about "the economy."

Similar vibes this time around. I hope Paxton pulls it out.
In that case, Cornyn was the better comparison there as the "safe choice" like Bush 41.

Talarico doesn't have the charisma of Bill Clinton or Beto. I also don't think he is as talented of a politician to cleverly run as a moderate like Clinton did. He will have to make his policy positions very clear and I think Texans will reject it.

I don't see a landslide for Paxton, but I don't see Talarico uniting Democrats and moderates. He's had to say very little up until this point. Now the real campaign begins.
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 10:23p, 5/26/26
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Infection_Ag11 said:
The Shank Ag said:
I'm out on the general. Would have voted for cornyn despite his flaws. Can't ethically vote for Paxton. Would never vote for talarico. Have no clue on third party candidates.


This board insists people like you don't exist

They exist, just not in large enough numbers for anyone to care about
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10:25p, 5/26/26
Didn't think Paxton would cook Cornyn this bad haha
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captkirk said:
Infection_Ag11 said:
The Shank Ag said:
I'm out on the general. Would have voted for cornyn despite his flaws. Can't ethically vote for Paxton. Would never vote for talarico. Have no clue on third party candidates.


This board insists people like you don't exist

They exist, just not in large enough numbers for anyone to care about
For every one of him there's someone who was tired of Cornyn and threatening to sit out having to home their nose as well. I don't think there many of either
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10:27p, 5/26/26
Talarico is not going to survive a Paxton campaign.
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In reply to TAMUallen • 10:28p, 5/26/26
TAMUallen said:
Sweep4-2 said:
Bucketrunner said:
Gee, maybe he should have run as a democrat. lol

Yep. Just like many of our successful politicians, he's a chameleon willing to change parties just to get elected. if the Democrats offered him a big $$$, he'd take it just like the R's and D's who change sides.



Are you even aware of who youre talking **** about and how he has consistently acted instead of talked?!

Sorry, yeah I realized that the way I typed it was not the way I intended. Paxton is very consistent, in all aspects of both his personal, professional and political life. And his consistency, both in business and life, is what I don't like about him. I didn't intend to paint him as a chameleon (but did).

What I intended to say was that he, and many other politicians, would highly likely just work for the highest bidder if it were in their interests.

So my chameleon comment was just aimed more at the fact that politicians chase $$$ in general.
Consistency: It's only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
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81% in now and Cornyn may win 3 counties.

Dallas: 51%/49%
Travis: 53%/47%
Kenedy: 75%/25% -- 6 votes Cornyn/ 2 paxton.

Still going to lose by double digits in Harris.

Wondering where the phantom Democrats who voted for Cornyn are rn. it's almost like that narrative was somehow more made up than the Chinese people falling to death in the streets from a cold virus.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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In reply to captkirk • 10:29p, 5/26/26
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captkirk said:
Infection_Ag11 said:
The Shank Ag said:
I'm out on the general. Would have voted for cornyn despite his flaws. Can't ethically vote for Paxton. Would never vote for talarico. Have no clue on third party candidates.


This board insists people like you don't exist

They exist, just not in large enough numbers for anyone to care about


Exactly, theyre some hard headed RINOs that don't matter. They either never voted anyway or so few that this is their crying den to find one or two like them.
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Sweep4-2 said:
hunter2012 said:
People would rather a politician like Cornyn or Talerico lie to them with slick language while in actuality working against them so long as he's nice and they can feel good about themselves, than someone brash and abrasive that's actually fighting in their corner. People want to feel morally superior than to actually be right.

I think what appeals about Paxton is that people appreciate his willingness to brazenly lie, cheat and steal from almost everyone he's ever come into contact with. And to do so proudly and boldly.

Ethics, morals and integrity are extreme liabilities for politicians.....when the name of the game is $$$ to voters, which I totally get.


The election is over. Your guy lost. Bigly. And now it's time to exit TexAgs…your influence campaign is over.
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In reply to Bucketrunner • 10:31p, 5/26/26
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Bucketrunner said:
Talarico is not going to survive a Paxton campaign.
His attack ads going after Talarico's beliefs are going be a lot more thorough than Cornyn's would have been. Cornyn would have tried too hard to stay above the fray and let Talarico dictate the narrative.
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In reply to WestAustinAg • 10:32p, 5/26/26
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hunter2012 said:
People would rather a politician like Cornyn or Talerico lie to them with slick language while in actuality working against them so long as he's nice and they can feel good about themselves, than someone brash and abrasive that's actually fighting in their corner. People want to feel morally superior than to actually be right.

I think what appeals about Paxton is that people appreciate his willingness to brazenly lie, cheat and steal from almost everyone he's ever come into contact with. And to do so proudly and boldly.

Ethics, morals and integrity are extreme liabilities for politicians.....when the name of the game is $$$ to voters, which I totally get.


The election is over. Your guy lost. Bigly. And now it's time to exit TexAgs…your influence campaign is over.

My guy? You apparently don't know me too well, I don't vote.

Different sides, same coin.
Consistency: It's only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
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In reply to DonHenley • 10:33p, 5/26/26
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DonHenley said:
Didn't think Paxton would cook Cornyn this bad haha

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In reply to Sweep4-2 • 10:33p, 5/26/26
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TAMUallen said:
Sweep4-2 said:
Bucketrunner said:
Gee, maybe he should have run as a democrat. lol

Yep. Just like many of our successful politicians, he's a chameleon willing to change parties just to get elected. if the Democrats offered him a big $$$, he'd take it just like the R's and D's who change sides.



Are you even aware of who youre talking **** about and how he has consistently acted instead of talked?!

Sorry, yeah I realized that the way I typed it was not the way I intended. Paxton is very consistent, in all aspects of both his personal, professional and political life. And his consistency, both in business and life, is what I don't like about him. I didn't intend to paint him as a chameleon (but did).

What I intended to say was that he, and many other politicians, would highly likely just work for the highest bidder if it were in their interests.

So my chameleon comment was just aimed more at the fact that politicians chase $$$ in general.


And when he delivers as being a great politician who does as the constituents would like, are you going to come back and praise him? Ha zero chance because judging others is more important to showing moral superiority
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