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Next they will try to convince us he isn't a pedophile.

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I mean I wont say that but I will say that he has never had a girlfriend the way that a straight man has had

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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I will vote for whoever wins the nomination, but don't believe Cornyn supporters scare tactics that say Paxton can't win in the general. He absolutely can.

This is a once in decades shot to take out a national level, worthless but powerful, RINO politician. We would be foolish not to take it.

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Could Cornyn run as an independent just to F with Republicans?

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I will vote for whoever wins the nomination, but don't believe Cornyn supporters scare tactics that say Paxton can't win in the general. He absolutely can.

This is a once in decades shot to take out a national level, worthless but powerful, RINO politician. We would be foolish not to take it.

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Could Cornyn run as an independent just to F with Republicans?

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I don't think he's stupid enough to be a Ross Perot and he would destroy any 'legacy' he has since it would basically guarantee Talarico winning.

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I will vote for whoever wins the nomination, but don't believe Cornyn supporters scare tactics that say Paxton can't win in the general. He absolutely can.

This is a once in decades shot to take out a national level, worthless but powerful, RINO politician. We would be foolish not to take it.

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Could Cornyn run as an independent just to F with Republicans?

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I don't think he's stupid enough to be a Ross Perot and he would destroy any 'legacy' he has since it would basically guarantee Talarico winning.

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Plus this isn't Alaska.

I hope you're right brother but I can see him pulling a Lisa Murkowski

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I hope you're right brother but I can see him pulling a Lisa Murkowski

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Ranked-choice voting changes the dynamic of that vote.

TEXAS SENATE RACE: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton told more than 130 Texas cities they can’t raise property taxes because they’re not complying with a new state law. We need this kind of leadership in DC. pic.twitter.com/betnEXAsAs

— @amuse (@amuse) May 16, 2026

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Cornyn is a colossal piece of ***** I'll vote against him again!

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Ill vote for the Dem if.....

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I can't think of a single IF scenario that would make me vote for a Dem.

I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Won't judge; I'm not going to vote for Paxton if he makes the general. Besides, if he needs my vote to win he probably deserves to lose.

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Cornyn is a colossal piece of ***** I'll vote against him again!

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Ill vote for the Dem if.....

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I can't think of a single IF scenario that would make me vote for a Dem.

I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Won't judge; I'm not going to vote for Paxton if he makes the general. Besides, if he needs my vote to win he probably deserves to lose.

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Well, then, if Talarico wins over Paxton, we fully expect you to be quiet about the Talarico 6 year (at least) term as Senator. Since you helped to elect him...no complaining when you could have done something to prevent it.

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Same can be said for Cornyn supporters.

I've said repeatedly I would vote for the Republican candidate.

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The only way Talarico wins is if Republicans stay home and don't vote on November . Regardless of whether Paxton or Cornyn wins, Republicans need to hold this seat. If for no other reason, it is critical for maintaining leadership and control of the committee chairmans.

We should all be able to agree on this.

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Well, we have a number of purportedly conservative people on here that have stated they won't vote if Paxton or Cornyn depending on which one they support in the primary...

So...that already shows that Talarico will do better no matter what, because Republican voters like to shoot themselves in the dick over "principle"...and the Democrats HAVE no principles..

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What a dumb comparison. Yes, D's have no principles but to say the right must stoop to that level of no principles is a fools game.

If the choice is Dem vs Dem lite in Cornyn, then the obvious answer is to abstain or vote third party. With the reasoning being that the idiot voters that chose Cornyn in the runoff still have not learned their lesson after all the proof that he's not conservative and certainly not in it for his constituents. Enabling that poor voting just exacerbates the problem later.

If the choice is Dem vs new low risk in Paxton, then the obvious answer is to roll the dice on the new blood.

Saying they are the same is nonsensical unless your only goal is party over policy, which is the exact thinking that the Dem's and establishment GOP want you to fall for.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

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And I respect your position on defeating Talarico. I don't want him winning either. But I'd rather Talarico lose in a close race vs Cornyn without my vote rather than Cornyn win in a landslide with my vote. I hope there are more that think like me but unfortunately I think the a significant portion of the right has given up on pursuing conservative ideology and instead prefers slow suicide with RINO's because they aren't D's.

The people that vote Cornyn in the runoff have their poor vote validated if Cornyn wins by a lot, and I want no part in enabling the masses to continue making poor voting choices.

There is a small chance that the idiot masses could learn their lesson if their candidate barely wins with low turnout. And that's a risk I'm willing to take because I firmly believe that D's and conservatives are politically incompatible and pretending the continueing of the usual Team R vs Team D is a fools errand in the long run.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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Did you graduate middle school? Bc that's one less vote talarico will need to get if you abstain. Is that too hard to understand?

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Did you fail reading comprehension? He said abstaining is voting for Talarico. That's false and any second grader or above would agree.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

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And I respect your position on defeating Talarico. I don't want him winning either. But I'd rather Talarico lose in a close race vs Cornyn without my vote rather than Cornyn win in a landslide with my vote. I hope there are more that think like me but unfortunately I think the a significant portion of the right has given up on pursuing conservative ideology and instead prefers slow suicide with RINO's because they aren't D's.

The people that vote Cornyn in the runoff have their poor vote validated if Cornyn wins by a lot, and I want no part in enabling the masses to continue making poor voting choices.

There is a small chance that the idiot masses could learn their lesson if their candidate barely wins with low turnout. And that's a risk I'm willing to take because I firmly believe that D's and conservatives are politically incompatible and pretending the continueing of the usual Team R vs Team D is a fools errand in the long run.

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I do not like Cornyn. I do not like RINOs. I will not enable the potential win of a Senator that's a far left democrat fake Christian

It's just that simple. That's a losing game to play by making a potential Democrat win easier (if it ends up regretfully being a Cornyn Talarico race)

So by abstaining I guess you are half voting for talarico? It's a definite positive for talarico if you abstain (he will need one less vote to win). You are acting like it's a net neutral.

Quit being dense.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

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And I respect your position on defeating Talarico. I don't want him winning either. But I'd rather Talarico lose in a close race vs Cornyn without my vote rather than Cornyn win in a landslide with my vote. I hope there are more that think like me but unfortunately I think the a significant portion of the right has given up on pursuing conservative ideology and instead prefers slow suicide with RINO's because they aren't D's.

The people that vote Cornyn in the runoff have their poor vote validated if Cornyn wins by a lot, and I want no part in enabling the masses to continue making poor voting choices.

There is a small chance that the idiot masses could learn their lesson if their candidate barely wins with low turnout. And that's a risk I'm willing to take because I firmly believe that D's and conservatives are politically incompatible and pretending the continueing of the usual Team R vs Team D is a fools errand in the long run.

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I do not like Cornyn. I do not like RINOs. I will not enable the potential win of a Senator that's a far left democrat fake Christian

It's just that simple. That's a losing game to play by making a potential Democrat win easier (if it ends up regretfully being a Cornyn Talarico race)

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Do you have a line you will draw where you won't vote for a R in the general?

What if McCain was alive and running in Cornyn's place?
Or Lindsey Graham? Or Crenshaw, or whoever you can think of that is your least favorite R past or present?

Hopefully you at least have a line where you can put policy over party, otherwise what is the point of politics if your "team" is automatically awarded your vote regardless of the quality of candidate or how idiotic the masses are in choosing the primary winner?

I don't think an overwhelming majority of D's have a line, which is why I believe D's and conservatives are incompatible and pretending to play that game with them with the same GOP party that has proven time and time again that it will not fight for us is a fools errand. The GOP needs new blood if you want to win that game.

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So by abstaining I guess you are half voting for talarico? It's a definite positive for talarico if you abstain (he will need one less vote to win). You are acting like it's a net neutral.

Quit being dense.

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If it's this easy for you to say, then show your work. There is zero mathematical scenario that shows abstaining is going to increase talarico's vote total, by one or half or any other fraction.

His odds could go up, but only if you assume that RINO's should automatically be awarded a conservatives vote. Same question to you, what if instead of Cornyn your least favorite R is running vs Beto lite? Do you still pull the lever for them and kick the can down the road or do you finally realize that we have bigger societal and political issues than this single vote if that is the choice the idiot masses go for in the primary?

Are you dumb? It's easy math. If talarico gets x votes and republicans get x-1 (bc you abstained), then he needs less votes to win.

I'm done responding bc you are either trolling or are so dumb that you don't understand elementary math.

And to answer your question I will vote republican (no matter who it is) against talarico. And I haven't even said who I prefer from the republican options. I was just pointing out how dumb your position and statements are.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

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And I respect your position on defeating Talarico. I don't want him winning either. But I'd rather Talarico lose in a close race vs Cornyn without my vote rather than Cornyn win in a landslide with my vote. I hope there are more that think like me but unfortunately I think the a significant portion of the right has given up on pursuing conservative ideology and instead prefers slow suicide with RINO's because they aren't D's.

The people that vote Cornyn in the runoff have their poor vote validated if Cornyn wins by a lot, and I want no part in enabling the masses to continue making poor voting choices.

There is a small chance that the idiot masses could learn their lesson if their candidate barely wins with low turnout. And that's a risk I'm willing to take because I firmly believe that D's and conservatives are politically incompatible and pretending the continueing of the usual Team R vs Team D is a fools errand in the long run.

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I do not like Cornyn. I do not like RINOs. I will not enable the potential win of a Senator that's a far left democrat fake Christian

It's just that simple. That's a losing game to play by making a potential Democrat win easier (if it ends up regretfully being a Cornyn Talarico race)

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Do you have a line you will draw where you won't vote for a R in the general?

What if McCain was alive and running in Cornyn's place?
Or Lindsey Graham? Or Crenshaw, or whoever you can think of that is your least favorite R past or present?

Hopefully you at least have a line where you can put policy over party, otherwise what is the point of politics if your "team" is automatically awarded your vote regardless of the quality of candidate or how idiotic the masses are in choosing the primary winner?

I don't think an overwhelming majority of D's have a line, which proves my point that we are incompatible and pretending to play that game with them with the same GOP party that has proven time and time again that it will not fight for us is a fools errand. The GOP needs new blood if you want to win that game.

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I dont have an allegiance to a party.

I am doing my part by voting Paxton and supporting the removal of RINOs

If I'm in the position of RINO or a much worse Democrat... my vote goes to the RINO due to that being the better of the two undesired outcomes.

Not that hard to figure out. The time to take a stand was before candidates were locked in, not after.

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Are you dumb? It's easy math. If talarico gets x votes and republicans get x-1 (bc you abstained), then he needs less votes to win.

I'm done responding bc you are either trolling or are so dumb that you don't understand elementary math.

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Please, read the post that claimed " Abstaining is voting for Talarico."

Here's the link since you clearly have not comprehended anything said in response.

Once you've read that, please show your work how Talarico's vote total goes UP when a person abstains. That was the claim. Had he said Talarico's ODDS go up, then I could agree with that if people think RINO's are somehow automatically worthy of a conservatives vote.

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So by abstaining I guess you are half voting for talarico? It's a definite positive for talarico if you abstain (he will need one less vote to win). You are acting like it's a net neutral.

Quit being dense.

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Seriously. It's an embarrassing level of stupidity

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Are you dumb? It's easy math. If talarico gets x votes and republicans get x-1 (bc you abstained), then he needs less votes to win.

I'm done responding bc you are either trolling or are so dumb that you don't understand elementary math.

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Please, read the post that claimed " Abstaining is voting for Talarico."

Here's the link since you clearly have not comprehended anything said in response.

Once you've read that, please show your work how Talarico's vote total goes UP when a person abstains. That was the claim. Had he said Talarico's ODDS go up, then I could agree with that if people think RINO's are somehow automatically worthy of a conservatives vote.

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Just stop please. Your logic is not hard to figure out and if you aren't understanding what those who disagree with you are saying then there's no point to continue discussing it.

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

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Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

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Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

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My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

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And I respect your position on defeating Talarico. I don't want him winning either. But I'd rather Talarico lose in a close race vs Cornyn without my vote rather than Cornyn win in a landslide with my vote. I hope there are more that think like me but unfortunately I think the a significant portion of the right has given up on pursuing conservative ideology and instead prefers slow suicide with RINO's because they aren't D's.

The people that vote Cornyn in the runoff have their poor vote validated if Cornyn wins by a lot, and I want no part in enabling the masses to continue making poor voting choices.

There is a small chance that the idiot masses could learn their lesson if their candidate barely wins with low turnout. And that's a risk I'm willing to take because I firmly believe that D's and conservatives are politically incompatible and pretending the continueing of the usual Team R vs Team D is a fools errand in the long run.

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I do not like Cornyn. I do not like RINOs. I will not enable the potential win of a Senator that's a far left democrat fake Christian

It's just that simple. That's a losing game to play by making a potential Democrat win easier (if it ends up regretfully being a Cornyn Talarico race)

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Do you have a line you will draw where you won't vote for a R in the general?

What if McCain was alive and running in Cornyn's place?
Or Lindsey Graham? Or Crenshaw, or whoever you can think of that is your least favorite R past or present?

Hopefully you at least have a line where you can put policy over party, otherwise what is the point of politics if your "team" is automatically awarded your vote regardless of the quality of candidate or how idiotic the masses are in choosing the primary winner?

I don't think an overwhelming majority of D's have a line, which proves my point that we are incompatible and pretending to play that game with them with the same GOP party that has proven time and time again that it will not fight for us is a fools errand. The GOP needs new blood if you want to win that game.

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I dont have an allegiance to a party.

I am doing my part by voting Paxton and supporting the removal of RINOs

If I'm in the position of RINO or a much worse Democrat... my vote goes to the RINO due to that being the better of the two undesired outcomes.

Not that hard to figure out. The time to take a stand was before candidates were locked in, not after.

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Great response, but my question about do you have a line sounds like you don't have one at all regarding voting R no matter what. If Fetterman switched parties and claimed to be an R, and the GOP welcomed him for whatever reason, and he somehow was eligible to run in Cornyn's place, you are saying you would vote for Fetterman in the general because he has an R by his name?

I'm hoping you would say no. And my point is that any sane person would have a line where they would not choose party over policy, and my line is to the right of Cornyn. That is fine if your line is to the left of him (I admit I'd rather Cornyn win rather than Talarico). But I won't vote for him because I believe it enables the same "R no matter what" nonsense that enables the GOP to continue drifting left because they know they have supporters that will blindly support them.