Paxton vs Cornyn

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.


Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.

Fewer votes for the Republican candidate helps the Dem candidate...

If the Republican ordinarily gets 1000 votes to win, but 200 normally Republican voters abstain or vote 3rd party, the Republican only gets 800 votes - so the Dem who ordinarily gets 820 votes and loses, now wins...

Math isn't hard...

Thanks for showing that you did not comprehend the question about how abstaining increases Beto lite's vote total, which is what another poster and several other Cornyn fanboys have gone along with. I've addressed how the odds change but that was not what the other poster said and not a single person has clarified that they were wrong and agreed how I said the odds could change. Nor acknowledged how RINO's somehow should automatically be awarded a conservatives vote. In which case, why bother voting if we could just register for a party and let our team leaders just automatically get our votes regardless of the garbage candidate they put forward?

Edit to add that you finally acknowledged that I have been correct in Talarico's vote total won't go up due to abstaining. And I acknowledged the odds changing from the gate, but that didnt sink in with anyone for whatever reason. I don't know why it took so long for someone to finally acknowledge it, but glad to see it was understood.

Excuse me for not being willing to be a "team player" that just falls in line for a party and politician that clearly has shown he is not an advocate of conservativism or his constituents. You do you though in advocating for slow suicide with Cornyn because you are afraid of Talarico. Talarico has a snow balls chance in hell in winning in Texas, and if there truly is any fear that someone like him could win in TEXAS, then we have bigger issues and all your teeth knashing about this election is incredibly misdirected. This election is but a tip of the iceberg and putting all your cares into it while ignoring the underlying problem is the epitome of kicking the can down the road and missing the forest for the trees.

Paxton will win the general easily.
Cornyn will win the general easily.
Choose the one that isn't a guaranteed RINO in the primary and if the idiot masses choose the guaranteed RINO, then don't complain when other people don't want to support the slow suicide with their vote.
Congraulations on your wall of words and high standards, hope they sooth your soul if the opposing party wins and destroys the state.
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Bingo. Cornyn has one of the 10 most conservative voting records in the senate, they're going to vote the same on 99% of bills only difference is Cornyn might actually be able to persuade someone else (Collins etc) to vote with him
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Sumlins Pool Guy said:

Bingo. Cornyn has one of the 10 most conservative voting records in the senate, they're going to vote the same on 99% of bills only difference is Cornyn might actually be able to persuade someone else (Collins etc) to vote with him


Cornyn actively works to convince others to vote left of even Collins. But when he fails, he toes the line so he won't get primaried. He works to kill conservative bills.
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TAMUallen said:

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Cornyn is a colossal piece of ***** I'll vote against him again!


Ill vote for the Dem if.....

I can't think of a single IF scenario that would make me vote for a Dem.

I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.

Won't judge; I'm not going to vote for Paxton if he makes the general. Besides, if he needs my vote to win he probably deserves to lose.

Well, then, if Talarico wins over Paxton, we fully expect you to be quiet about the Talarico 6 year (at least) term as Senator. Since you helped to elect him...no complaining when you could have done something to prevent it.

Same can be said for Cornyn supporters.

I've said repeatedly I would vote for the Republican candidate.

I'm not a Cornyn supporter.

I want the Republican to win.

If a better candidate than Paxton was available, I would be rooting for them.

Cornyn, unfortunately, has a better chance of beating Talarico than Paxton does.


I do not agree with Cornyn having a better chance even if previous polls had shown as such. I question the setup of the polls and accuracy

https://polymarket.com/politics/texas-senate

Paxton leading Cornyn 63-38 currently
Winning senate R to D 53-47


I WILL vote for Paxton...and I think, POLICY-WISE, he is the better candidate. But, he has a lot of baggage that can be exploited to hurt him

That's why I think that Cornyn has the better chance to win in the General election...

So here in the PRIMARY is where we make that choice.
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Letting the Dem take office is greasing the path to suicide. Again, it isn't noble. It is far more destructive and it is pure idiocy.


Then we damn sure better primary the POS dem running as a Republican.


I get that this is the cutesy way to paint Cornyn, but he has consistently confirmed every Trump appointment and voted with him. It's a dumb argument compared to the actual Dem. Some of yall feel so strongly but I don't hear much of you doing anything about it

I voted Paxton and will again before you paint me as some Cornyn fanboy. But I'm also not an idiot


Cornyn went behind the scenes to do damage to conservatives. Over and over and over. When he failed, he did vote correctly. But he killed many conservative deals before they got started.

Ted Cruz, Trump, and most recently the save act. There are other examples.

Dude is a lib that knows he can't get elected as a lib in this state so he runs as a Republican.

Why do you think the Dems always went after Cruz's seat? Not that Cornyn couldn't be primaried. We see that right now. Nope. They don't want to touch their lib candidate that is in office.

For the record I've never sat out a vote. And I won't if Cornyn wins. But I'm going to fight like hell to see that he loses the promise. And I don't care how much the Bushes and their cronies get pissed. Maybe they will create another Lincoln project just for Texas.

JFC...

Just because he's not right of the John Birch Society doesn't mean he's a "lib". He's a right of center Republican.

Which is WAYYYYY better than Talarico.
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Tea Party said:

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Tea Party said:

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Tea Party said:

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I'm just going to abstain in the general if Cornyn wins the runoff and there isn't a third party option, but I'll never vote for a Dem.


Abstaining is voting for Talarico.

Show me the math how Talarico's vote total goes up if a person abstains.

Cornyn is not entitled to a conservatives vote just because he has an R next to his name. He lost any chance at that priviledge due to his own non-conservative tenure.


My privilege will be defeating Talarico in any way possible. First step is ensuring Paxton is his opponent. If I lose that, I'm not stopping the objective of defeating Talarico

And I respect your position on defeating Talarico. I don't want him winning either. But I'd rather Talarico lose in a close race vs Cornyn without my vote rather than Cornyn win in a landslide with my vote. I hope there are more that think like me but unfortunately I think the a significant portion of the right has given up on pursuing conservative ideology and instead prefers slow suicide with RINO's because they aren't D's.

The people that vote Cornyn in the runoff have their poor vote validated if Cornyn wins by a lot, and I want no part in enabling the masses to continue making poor voting choices.

There is a small chance that the idiot masses could learn their lesson if their candidate barely wins with low turnout. And that's a risk I'm willing to take because I firmly believe that D's and conservatives are politically incompatible and pretending the continueing of the usual Team R vs Team D is a fools errand in the long run.


I do not like Cornyn. I do not like RINOs. I will not enable the potential win of a Senator that's a far left democrat fake Christian

It's just that simple. That's a losing game to play by making a potential Democrat win easier (if it ends up regretfully being a Cornyn Talarico race)

Do you have a line you will draw where you won't vote for a R in the general?

What if McCain was alive and running in Cornyn's place?
Or Lindsey Graham? Or Crenshaw, or whoever you can think of that is your least favorite R past or present?

Hopefully you at least have a line where you can put policy over party, otherwise what is the point of politics if your "team" is automatically awarded your vote regardless of the quality of candidate or how idiotic the masses are in choosing the primary winner?

I don't think an overwhelming majority of D's have a line, which proves my point that we are incompatible and pretending to play that game with them with the same GOP party that has proven time and time again that it will not fight for us is a fools errand. The GOP needs new blood if you want to win that game.


I dont have an allegiance to a party.

I am doing my part by voting Paxton and supporting the removal of RINOs

If I'm in the position of RINO or a much worse Democrat... my vote goes to the RINO due to that being the better of the two undesired outcomes.

Not that hard to figure out. The time to take a stand was before candidates were locked in, not after.

Great response, but my question about do you have a line sounds like you don't have one at all regarding voting R no matter what. If Fetterman switched parties and claimed to be an R, and the GOP welcomed him for whatever reason, and he somehow was eligible to run in Cornyn's place, you are saying you would vote for Fetterman in the general because he has an R by his name?

I'm hoping you would say no. And my point is that any sane person would have a line where they would not choose party over policy, and my line is to the right of Cornyn. That is fine if your line is to the left of him (I admit I'd rather Cornyn win rather than Talarico). But I won't vote for him because I believe it enables the same "R no matter what" nonsense that enables the GOP to continue drifting left because they know they have supporters that will blindly support them.

What is amusing is that if you, and other absolutists like you, cause the Republican vote to drop enough to allow a Talarico win, your line is WAY far left of his...

Again, not comprehending the discussion.... How is not voting for someone to the left of what I consider worthy of a vote somehow meaning that my line of what is acceptable suddenly to the left? You are either misunderstanding the discussion or are lying, but I'm assuming it's a simple misunderstanding.

And the one person earlier that has responded about where their line is has stated if Fetterman was the R nominee they would vote for Fetterman in the general over Talarico bcause he is better than Talarico. I gave an easy layup since they clearly are different, but they still said they would vote for a Fetterman type in the general. That is incomprehensible to me that a supposed conservative would vote for the ultimate RINO rather than stop and wonder how we got here and how can we fix it.

Well, there IS a lot of misunderstanding, but I assure you that it's ALL on your side.

I'm discussing REALITY...

Not some fantasy position that would be really awesome if we could all get everything we wanted...
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coolerguy12 said:

Do you believe God is non-binary and supports abortion?

1. Is God non-binary? God is not human and is therefore non-binary. So yes.
2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

And even if Jesus had said, "Aborting a pregnancy is a sin," when did he say it was worse than any other sin? Why do y'all consider abortion and homosexuality to be unforgivable; yet adultery, dishonesty, idolatry, and working on the sabbath (among others) are fine & dandy as long as your political heroes are doing it?
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

coolerguy12 said:

Do you believe God is non-binary and supports abortion?

1. Is God non-binary? God is not human and is therefore non-binary. So yes.
2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

And even if Jesus had said, "Aborting a pregnancy is a sin," when did he say it was worse than any other sin? Why do y'all consider abortion and homosexuality to be unforgivable; yet adultery, dishonesty, idolatry, and working on the sabbath (among others) are fine & dandy as long as your political heroes are doing it?


Did God create us in his own image? Was Eve created after the creation of Adam from his rib?
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

coolerguy12 said:

Do you believe God is non-binary and supports abortion?

1. Is God non-binary? God is not human and is therefore non-binary. So yes.
2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

And even if Jesus had said, "Aborting a pregnancy is a sin," when did he say it was worse than any other sin? Why do y'all consider abortion and homosexuality to be unforgivable; yet adultery, dishonesty, idolatry, and working on the sabbath (among others) are fine & dandy as long as your political heroes are doing it?

I mean, if you want to ignore biology, you'd be correct, but as long as you can lie to yourself that the fetus is not alive, you do you...



Got a question, though...



Did you know you were going to be an "Ag Dad" only after your kid popped outta momma, or did you know before that?
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

coolerguy12 said:

Do you believe God is non-binary and supports abortion?

1. Is God non-binary? God is not human and is therefore non-binary. So yes.
2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

And even if Jesus had said, "Aborting a pregnancy is a sin," when did he say it was worse than any other sin? Why do y'all consider abortion and homosexuality to be unforgivable; yet adultery, dishonesty, idolatry, and working on the sabbath (among others) are fine & dandy as long as your political heroes are doing it?

Well, abortion DOES kill someone, so, I think that might be worse than working on a Sunday...
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Early voting starts today, just fyi everyone.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:


2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

Goodness.

Please change your username. You're embarrassing me.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

coolerguy12 said:

Do you believe God is non-binary and supports abortion?

1. Is God non-binary? God is not human and is therefore non-binary. So yes.
2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

And even if Jesus had said, "Aborting a pregnancy is a sin," when did he say it was worse than any other sin? Why do y'all consider abortion and homosexuality to be unforgivable; yet adultery, dishonesty, idolatry, and working on the sabbath (among others) are fine & dandy as long as your political heroes are doing it?


You sound really confused. I recommend you find some strong Christian men you can walk with. Avoid talking politics with them as that will just get you triggered. Read the Bible and talk about it with them.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

coolerguy12 said:

Do you believe God is non-binary and supports abortion?

1. Is God non-binary? God is not human and is therefore non-binary. So yes.
2. Does God support abortion? I don't know. Jesus never said a word about it, and the rest of the Bible never mentions it.

And before you jump on the "No murder" commandment, no verse in the Bible mentions abortion, so if you believe abortion is murder, that's your interpretation, not God's.

And even if Jesus had said, "Aborting a pregnancy is a sin," when did he say it was worse than any other sin? Why do y'all consider abortion and homosexuality to be unforgivable; yet adultery, dishonesty, idolatry, and working on the sabbath (among others) are fine & dandy as long as your political heroes are doing it?

You maybe should sit this one out, as you clearly don't understand the teachings of Jesus or...even common sense.
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https://static1.squarespace.com/static/67aa7aa3e284b002cd6a420e/t/6a0addffcba58d0751053542/1779097087749/TSUTexasNov2026.pdf

TSU Poll shows Cornyn +1 over Talarico and Paxton even with Talarico. Abbott +6 in Gov race. That is a pretty rough poll for Talarico at this point... I imagine those numbers start to slip as more money is put into the race showing what he actually believes instead of on the campaign trail avoiding trans issues
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Z3phyr said:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/67aa7aa3e284b002cd6a420e/t/6a0addffcba58d0751053542/1779097087749/TSUTexasNov2026.pdf

TSU Poll shows Cornyn +1 over Talarico and Paxton even with Talarico. Abbott +6 in Gov race. That is a pretty rough poll for Talarico at this point... I imagine those numbers start to slip as more money is put into the race showing what he actually believes instead of on the campaign trail avoiding trans issues

Paxton will shred Talarico.

Don't let libs and RINOs convince you otherwise.
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Ag with kids said:

Science Denier said:

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Letting the Dem take office is greasing the path to suicide. Again, it isn't noble. It is far more destructive and it is pure idiocy.


Then we damn sure better primary the POS dem running as a Republican.


I get that this is the cutesy way to paint Cornyn, but he has consistently confirmed every Trump appointment and voted with him. It's a dumb argument compared to the actual Dem. Some of yall feel so strongly but I don't hear much of you doing anything about it

I voted Paxton and will again before you paint me as some Cornyn fanboy. But I'm also not an idiot


Cornyn went behind the scenes to do damage to conservatives. Over and over and over. When he failed, he did vote correctly. But he killed many conservative deals before they got started.

Ted Cruz, Trump, and most recently the save act. There are other examples.

Dude is a lib that knows he can't get elected as a lib in this state so he runs as a Republican.

Why do you think the Dems always went after Cruz's seat? Not that Cornyn couldn't be primaried. We see that right now. Nope. They don't want to touch their lib candidate that is in office.

For the record I've never sat out a vote. And I won't if Cornyn wins. But I'm going to fight like hell to see that he loses the promise. And I don't care how much the Bushes and their cronies get pissed. Maybe they will create another Lincoln project just for Texas.

JFC...

Just because he's not right of the John Birch Society doesn't mean he's a "lib". He's a right of center Republican.

Which is WAYYYYY better than Talarico.

Bingo! Cornyn is what I would call a pragmatist. Cruz is what I would call an idealogue. Regardless, they have voted pretty much the same. Where have they differed?

  • Cornyn votes in favor of bipartisan omnibus packages designed to keep the government operating. Cruz tends to oppose those.
  • Cruz wants to connect foreign aid to domestic border security and disconnect humanitarian aid from foreign aid packages that have provided military assistance to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Cornyn supported those as is..
  • Cornyn supported the bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Cruz did not.
  • Cornyn voted to certify the 2020 Electoral College results. Cruz objected.
Pragmatist vs. idealogue. None of that make Cornyn a 'lib".
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  • Cornyn voted to certify the 2020 Electoral College results. Cruz objected.


not accurate to say he objecting to certifying the electoral college results. cruz objected to electors from AZ and PA. thats it.

Even if those objections were sustained and the votes not counted, Biden still wins.
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  • Cornyn voted to certify the 2020 Electoral College results. Cruz objected.


not accurate to say he objecting to certifying the electoral college results. cruz objected to electors from AZ and PA. thats it.

Even if those objections were sustained and the votes not counted, Biden still wins.

Cruz wasn't the only one filing objections and had the session continued, there would have been more challenges. So Pelosi got what she wanted, the entire reason for the joint session was waylaid.
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dmart90 said:

Ag with kids said:

Science Denier said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Science Denier said:

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Letting the Dem take office is greasing the path to suicide. Again, it isn't noble. It is far more destructive and it is pure idiocy.


Then we damn sure better primary the POS dem running as a Republican.


I get that this is the cutesy way to paint Cornyn, but he has consistently confirmed every Trump appointment and voted with him. It's a dumb argument compared to the actual Dem. Some of yall feel so strongly but I don't hear much of you doing anything about it

I voted Paxton and will again before you paint me as some Cornyn fanboy. But I'm also not an idiot


Cornyn went behind the scenes to do damage to conservatives. Over and over and over. When he failed, he did vote correctly. But he killed many conservative deals before they got started.

Ted Cruz, Trump, and most recently the save act. There are other examples.

Dude is a lib that knows he can't get elected as a lib in this state so he runs as a Republican.

Why do you think the Dems always went after Cruz's seat? Not that Cornyn couldn't be primaried. We see that right now. Nope. They don't want to touch their lib candidate that is in office.

For the record I've never sat out a vote. And I won't if Cornyn wins. But I'm going to fight like hell to see that he loses the promise. And I don't care how much the Bushes and their cronies get pissed. Maybe they will create another Lincoln project just for Texas.

JFC...

Just because he's not right of the John Birch Society doesn't mean he's a "lib". He's a right of center Republican.

Which is WAYYYYY better than Talarico.

Bingo! Cornyn is what I would call a pragmatist. Cruz is what I would call an idealogue. Regardless, they have voted pretty much the same. Where have they differed?

  • Cornyn votes in favor of bipartisan omnibus packages designed to keep the government operating. Cruz tends to oppose those.
  • Cruz wants to connect foreign aid to domestic border security and disconnect humanitarian aid from foreign aid packages that have provided military assistance to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Cornyn supported those as is..
  • Cornyn supported the bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Cruz did not.
  • Cornyn voted to certify the 2020 Electoral College results. Cruz objected.
Pragmatist vs. idealogue. None of that make Cornyn a 'lib".

Your point is EXACTLY what makes Cornyn a lib. He will vote in line, but try like hell to kill conservative measures BEFORE they come to a vote. He can and has inflicted tons of damage to our party. And, with a slim majority, he can kill alot.

He votes when he has to. His true nature is what he does BEHIND the scenes. He's not just a lib, he's LYING about what he supports.

Take the save act most recently. He was only going to vote "yes" if Trump endorsed him. LOL, let's makie a deal. Not because he believes in it, but he wants his power.

But even then, he wasn't going to vote to kill the filibuster, or even make it a talking one. So, he knew it would be defeated so he could vote "yes" to make voters like you believe he's voting for the right. He's not conservative. He's not interested in the save act actually passing. Nope. He wants it dead. He worked with Thune to ensure it's dead.

**** that guy. Lying lib. Get that ****wad out of office.
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Cruz wasn't the only one filing objections and had the session continued, there would have been more challenges.


Cruz objected to PA after the session resumed, so he could have objected to any other states he had a problem with. georgia, michigan, nevada, wisconsin etc. he had no objection.

I do wonder how it would have gone if the weirdos hadn't decided to storm the capitol. close to a certainty it would have been the same ultimate result as they has nowhere near the votes to stop any state electors from being counted. but perhaps more than just two states have objections even heard.
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Cornyn campaigning on being a staunch Trump supporter is insulting. Do people fall for this bs?
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Science Denier said:

dmart90 said:

Ag with kids said:

Science Denier said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Science Denier said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Letting the Dem take office is greasing the path to suicide. Again, it isn't noble. It is far more destructive and it is pure idiocy.


Then we damn sure better primary the POS dem running as a Republican.


I get that this is the cutesy way to paint Cornyn, but he has consistently confirmed every Trump appointment and voted with him. It's a dumb argument compared to the actual Dem. Some of yall feel so strongly but I don't hear much of you doing anything about it

I voted Paxton and will again before you paint me as some Cornyn fanboy. But I'm also not an idiot


Cornyn went behind the scenes to do damage to conservatives. Over and over and over. When he failed, he did vote correctly. But he killed many conservative deals before they got started.

Ted Cruz, Trump, and most recently the save act. There are other examples.

Dude is a lib that knows he can't get elected as a lib in this state so he runs as a Republican.

Why do you think the Dems always went after Cruz's seat? Not that Cornyn couldn't be primaried. We see that right now. Nope. They don't want to touch their lib candidate that is in office.

For the record I've never sat out a vote. And I won't if Cornyn wins. But I'm going to fight like hell to see that he loses the promise. And I don't care how much the Bushes and their cronies get pissed. Maybe they will create another Lincoln project just for Texas.

JFC...

Just because he's not right of the John Birch Society doesn't mean he's a "lib". He's a right of center Republican.

Which is WAYYYYY better than Talarico.

Bingo! Cornyn is what I would call a pragmatist. Cruz is what I would call an idealogue. Regardless, they have voted pretty much the same. Where have they differed?

  • Cornyn votes in favor of bipartisan omnibus packages designed to keep the government operating. Cruz tends to oppose those.
  • Cruz wants to connect foreign aid to domestic border security and disconnect humanitarian aid from foreign aid packages that have provided military assistance to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Cornyn supported those as is..
  • Cornyn supported the bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Cruz did not.
  • Cornyn voted to certify the 2020 Electoral College results. Cruz objected.
Pragmatist vs. idealogue. None of that make Cornyn a 'lib".

Your point is EXACTLY what makes Cornyn a lib. He will vote in line, but try like hell to kill conservative measures BEFORE they come to a vote. He can and has inflicted tons of damage to our party. And, with a slim majority, he can kill alot.

He votes when he has to. His true nature is what he does BEHIND the scenes. He's not just a lib, he's LYING about what he supports.

Take the save act most recently. He was only going to vote "yes" if Trump endorsed him. LOL, let's makie a deal. Not because he believes in it, but he wants his power.

But even then, he wasn't going to vote to kill the filibuster, or even make it a talking one. So, he knew it would be defeated so he could vote "yes" to make voters like you believe he's voting for the right. He's not conservative. He's not interested in the save act actually passing. Nope. He wants it dead. He worked with Thune to ensure it's dead.

**** that guy. Lying lib. Get that ****wad out of office.


Is there a link or evidence for any of the bolded? There were also multiple Republican senators who didn't want to nuke the filibuster for the save act which is why it was never put up as an option.

Cornyn is basically just a vanilla moderate Republican who is slightly more conservative than the Collins/Murkowski types, which makes sense given that Texas is still unfortunately a pretty purple-ish state thanks to the big cities. Probably going to lose the primary because he's not far right enough for the base, but calling him a lib is just factually incorrect hyperbole considering he will vote conservative 90%+ of the time.
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Voted this morning four our next Senator, Ken Paxton. He will wipe the floor with Talarico. Talarico and his crazy ass ideas won't fly in Texas even with his donors and their billion$. A majority of Texans still have common sense and reject stupidisms.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Science Denier said:

dmart90 said:

Ag with kids said:

Science Denier said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Science Denier said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Letting the Dem take office is greasing the path to suicide. Again, it isn't noble. It is far more destructive and it is pure idiocy.


Then we damn sure better primary the POS dem running as a Republican.


I get that this is the cutesy way to paint Cornyn, but he has consistently confirmed every Trump appointment and voted with him. It's a dumb argument compared to the actual Dem. Some of yall feel so strongly but I don't hear much of you doing anything about it

I voted Paxton and will again before you paint me as some Cornyn fanboy. But I'm also not an idiot


Cornyn went behind the scenes to do damage to conservatives. Over and over and over. When he failed, he did vote correctly. But he killed many conservative deals before they got started.

Ted Cruz, Trump, and most recently the save act. There are other examples.

Dude is a lib that knows he can't get elected as a lib in this state so he runs as a Republican.

Why do you think the Dems always went after Cruz's seat? Not that Cornyn couldn't be primaried. We see that right now. Nope. They don't want to touch their lib candidate that is in office.

For the record I've never sat out a vote. And I won't if Cornyn wins. But I'm going to fight like hell to see that he loses the promise. And I don't care how much the Bushes and their cronies get pissed. Maybe they will create another Lincoln project just for Texas.

JFC...

Just because he's not right of the John Birch Society doesn't mean he's a "lib". He's a right of center Republican.

Which is WAYYYYY better than Talarico.

Bingo! Cornyn is what I would call a pragmatist. Cruz is what I would call an idealogue. Regardless, they have voted pretty much the same. Where have they differed?

  • Cornyn votes in favor of bipartisan omnibus packages designed to keep the government operating. Cruz tends to oppose those.
  • Cruz wants to connect foreign aid to domestic border security and disconnect humanitarian aid from foreign aid packages that have provided military assistance to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Cornyn supported those as is..
  • Cornyn supported the bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Cruz did not.
  • Cornyn voted to certify the 2020 Electoral College results. Cruz objected.
Pragmatist vs. idealogue. None of that make Cornyn a 'lib".

Your point is EXACTLY what makes Cornyn a lib. He will vote in line, but try like hell to kill conservative measures BEFORE they come to a vote. He can and has inflicted tons of damage to our party. And, with a slim majority, he can kill alot.

He votes when he has to. His true nature is what he does BEHIND the scenes. He's not just a lib, he's LYING about what he supports.

Take the save act most recently. He was only going to vote "yes" if Trump endorsed him. LOL, let's makie a deal. Not because he believes in it, but he wants his power.

But even then, he wasn't going to vote to kill the filibuster, or even make it a talking one. So, he knew it would be defeated so he could vote "yes" to make voters like you believe he's voting for the right. He's not conservative. He's not interested in the save act actually passing. Nope. He wants it dead. He worked with Thune to ensure it's dead.

**** that guy. Lying lib. Get that ****wad out of office.


Is there a link or evidence for any of this? There were also multiple Republican senators who didn't want to nuke the filibuster for the save act which is why it was never put up as an option.

Cornyn is basically just a vanilla moderate Republican who is slightly more conservative than the Collins/Murkowski types, which makes sense given that Texas is still unfortunately a pretty purple-ish state thanks to the big cities. Probably going to lose the primary because he's not far right enough for the base, but calling him a lib is just factually incorrect hyperbole considering he will vote conservative 90%+ of the time.

Cornyn suddenly flip flops on Filibuster
March 11, lol.

Right after Thune says no to talking filibuster
Thune says no to Filibuster - Mar 9

Another public display of all of a sudden wanting the Filibuster
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And, all of a sudden, Thune endorses Cornyn
Thune endorses Cornyn - Mar 23

So, Cornyn all of a sudden says he's for the Save act and flip flops to saying he'd vote yes to talking filibuster, only after Thune says there will be no vote on the filibuster.

But, I'm sure he had nothing to do behind the scenes to see this happened. Many times, timing is just too clear on intentions. Folks can believe what they want.

Throw the lib scum out.
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Cornyn can claim he voted with Trump 90+ % of the time or whatever he says now. But to paraphrase Chris Rock from back in the day, this is about like people saying ""I take care of my kids." I mean, you're supposed to take care of your kids. That's not something that's extra credit."

He's done the bare minimum, and worse he's been on the wrong side of 8-10 key issues. Period. Nothing great, and supported a few things that were very bad.

He's been in the senate nearly 24 years and without looking people can't name anything meaningful he's done that is good for Texas. In baseball terms, he's a replacement level player at best. Texas deserves much better.
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Don't know if I would fault someone for being hesitant to nuke the filibuster... I like the strategy (don't remember who proposed it) that republicans should try to make the filibuster a constitutional amendment and if the democrats don't vote for it then nuke it to push the save act. If the filibuster is nuked the supreme court will be packed next time the dems get control of the senate.
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Z3phyr said:

Don't know if I would fault someone for being hesitant to nuke the filibuster... I like the strategy (don't remember who proposed it) that republicans should try to make the filibuster a constitutional amendment and if the democrats don't vote for it then nuke it to push the save act. If the filibuster is nuked the supreme court will be packed next time the dems get control of the senate.

It isn't to nuke it. Just make folks talk. Talking filibuster was in place for a long time.

Just can't claim filibuster and leave. Have to physically be there.
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TEXAS SENATE RACE: When you step into the voting booth today, don't forget that Cornyn pushed the Russia hoax. Pushed the J6 coup lie. Opposed Trump in 2024. Built open border loopholes. Begged Obama for amnesty. Send John Thune a clear message that we're not going to put up with UniParty BS anymore.
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RED AG 98 said:



He's been in the senate nearly 24 years and without looking people can't name anything meaningful he's done that is good for Texas. In baseball terms, he's a replacement level player at best. Texas deserves much better.


RED AG 98

I liked all of your post, but felt this deserved a special call out as being so well done.


Great reasoned, non-emotion based outline of why its time for Cornyn to go!

I'm Gipper
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Voted this morning. There were no political signs posted anywhere. There was no one else voting when I voted. As usual, this runoff is going to come down to turnout.
Now if there was a way to block political ads once you've voted. You'd have 90%+ voter turnout if that were possible.
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Nothing gets by Cornyn. Nothing.
 
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