CS City Council Place 5 - Data Center Update

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Koko Chingo
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whoop1995 said:

Koko Chingo said:

If you have a generator I have older non-powered PA's and a rolling rack case with a mixer and amps and all that plus 16 mic's -- let me know

Y'all should do it outside the meeting on Thursday to give everyone inside a taste

I will know later today if I can make it Thursday.

If i cant I will post and someone can meet me Wednesday evening at the storage facility behind Burger King at Texas & Highway 6 and use it.
jssargent10
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I don't know if you all in city council were trying to slip something by us, but it sure looks like you were. This type of facility has no business in College Station. It is too close to people's homes, requires too much water (THAT WE DO NOT HAVE!!!), eats up too much electricity and provides too little benefit. 14 long term jobs-seriously? I get that you want the money, but think about the loss of revenue from depressed property values around that area. Think about the potential for lawsuits from those who live in the area and the businesses and people who will not move there because that thing is hot and hums 24/7. Stop trying to press the easy button and actually work to do what is best for the long term. Be good stewards of our city-this was a bad idea that you all knew was bad.
AggieSB
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Light industrial. From my understanding that zoning designation is antiquated and a fundamental issue with our planning & zoning that makes our market opportunistic for a venture like this one. These make industrial noise and use resources as such and they know it. But, like always, the policy is eons behind new businesses and technology. Somebody will have to die near this thing for anything to change. I'm sure we will sell all of our land and resources in the dark of night before we get the chance to keep up.
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Residents in Menomonie, Wisconsin, oppose a proposed $1.6 billion data center on 300 acres of farmland proposed to the city by a Delaware-based company. | Fox Business

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/mystery-companys-1-6b-data-center-proposed-wisconsin-farmland-draws-residents-ire
EliteElectric
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EliteElectric said:

I just sent this to all councilmembers and the mayor

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9/8/2025

To: Staff and Council
With: City of College Station Texas
Re: Proposed Data Center, Real Estate and Capital Expenditures

Dear Mayor, Members of Council and city staff,

My name is Andreas Pavlatos, and I have been a business owner in College Station for over 16 years now, I have also paid taxes in Brazos County, Bryan and College Station during my entire 32 years in Texas. I am writing this letter to voice my acute displeasure and deep concerns regarding city leadership, and staff, and the actions taken by said group regarding Real Estate and Capital Expenditures in hopes that my voice, and by proxy the voice of many like-minded others will be heard.

Time and time again it seems that improper decisions are being made "on behalf" of the citizens and taxpayers of our community, without engagement, transparency or our consent. It's an ugly pattern of poor decision making. I can name at least a dozen, off the top of my head, since I came to the area in 1992, but will spare you the history lesson as I am sure you all are well aware of these mistakes. I am also aware and freely acknowledge that many of those past decisions were made by past regimes, however the pattern persists.

The full weight, financial injury and tax burden of those poor decisions are born solely by the taxpayers, your constituents, who have had little-to-no say in these decisions. The decision makers themselves, most of whom have had their taxes frozen due to their age, see no financial impact of their decision making.

Recently, a councilmember made us aware that the city has intentions of allowing a large datacenter to be built inside the city limits, and with no citizen engagement or input on the matter. We have built a datacenter (Stream Data Center | San Antonio) and can tell you from experience, they are very loud and unsightly and a huge drain on local resources. I do not believe the city should allow a large data center to be built inside the city limits without - at a minimum- community engagement, transparency and a vote by the citizens who would be affected.

In closing, let me say that there should be transparency in all levels of our local government. Not the type of transparency where a sitting councilman is threatened or chastised by staff for sharing information about a potential project that impacts thousands of citizens. Not the type of transparency where a sitting councilman asks for information on a property purchase and is denied it. Not the type of transparency where the only way citizens can get information on the property dealings of the city is via Freedom of Information Act filings. It seems that staff and the city manager are making all the decisions and then seeking acquiescence of Council and doing so by use of withholding information in order to couch their positions to council. This is evidence of systemic failure in leadership and borders on criminal. The citizens of College Station deserve better.



Sincerely,



in the 24 hrs since I sent that I have received1 response. 1.

Quote:

Thank you so much for your message and interest in our community. I will definitely take your thoughts and comments into consideration.

Thanks, David

David White
College Station City Council- Place 3

doubledog
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The best thing that our CoCS council can do at this point is to table the vote on the data center, until this issue has been properly vetted by the citizens of College Station. Of course that is the last thing the Data Center developers want. Like any good salesman, the Data Center developers want to seal the deal before the potential customer walks out the door. (That is one of the reasons for the ND with the city staffers and council memebers).
etj77845
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I don't know if you all in city council were trying to slip something by us, but it sure looks like you were.

Shure they were. COCS is notorious for activity that runs counter to citizen priorities. Suggest you follow the money trail.
Grmpy
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jssargent10 said:

I don't know if you all in city council were trying to slip something by us, but it sure looks like you were. This type of facility has no business in College Station. It is too close to people's homes, requires too much water (THAT WE DO NOT HAVE!!!), eats up too much electricity and provides too little benefit. 14 long term jobs-seriously? I get that you want the money, but think about the loss of revenue from depressed property values around that area. Think about the potential for lawsuits from those who live in the area and the businesses and people who will not move there because that thing is hot and hums 24/7. Stop trying to press the easy button and actually work to do what is best for the long term. Be good stewards of our city-this was a bad idea that you all knew was bad.

This is disingenuous! He literally started this thread for awareness.

Some of you enjoy your anger too much.
Reload84
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Sure hope someone is capturing contact information for all the folks engaging against the Data Center/Bitcoin Mine/Mystery Project at Midtown. Given vote differences in typical council elections and runoffs this could be a powerful coalition for change at election time!

This project should have never reached this stage behind closed doors without citizen input. It's apparent the council and city staff have not done the level of due diligence and research required to protect citizen interests. It's almost criminal that they are only allowing citizens to ask questions and raise concerns at the last minute before they vote. Sure raises questions about their motivation and whether this is intentional? They may have been hoping no one would notice and interrupt the plan.

Has the council and staff been blinded by the smoke and mirrors, the political pressure, and the big money involved?

We live in a new world that demands true leadership and backbone. Our representatives must be strong enough to push back and ask the serious questions before haphazardly moving forward on something this big. There are too many negative long-range impacts on our community that have not been investigated or fully vetted. Also, there are too many unknowns to approve this contract and then wait to find out what the implications are on utilities, health concerns and property values.

Would you agree to buying a car not knowing what model it is or how much it's going to cost? Would you buy it without knowing what kind of engine would power it, or what color it is? Would you want to factor in the long range operating costs of maintaining it? Would you buy that car not even knowing whether it would fit into your garage? The only way someone could be this irresponsible and take this kind of risk would be if you were spending someone else's money on that car. That's exactly what the city is doing if they approve this contract without knowing the facts and investigating all of the risks.

The mayor and council members are signing us all up for a major case of buyers remorse if they approve this deal.

Numbers count so folks need show up like never before at the meeting at 7:00pm on Thursday at City Hall.

Silence is not an option.
KatieR
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Everyone in CS needs to copy this thread and post it to their nextdoor app..
ReelAg6
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Tailgate88 said:

BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him


He said earlier in the thread that the potential buyers and staff had both put quite a bit of time and effort into preparing their presentation and they deserved a chance to be heard and make their case. Even if he is predisposed to a vote one way or another it sounds like he will hear them out at least.
city staff has never given a damn when a private developer has a bunch of time, money and energy invested in a project. Too bad, so sad.
ElephantRider
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BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him

Yancy wants his convention center
ElephantRider
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Hornbeck said:

MsDoubleD81 said:

MiMi said:

Why can't Mr. Yancy say how he will vote when Mr. Wright announced his vote earlier today?

I wondered this too.


I've seen Smith claiming "it's not a crypto mine", and he's voting for it.

The contract strongly suggests, that's not true.

If Priority Power is involved, I'd bet money it's crypto
MeKnowNot
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ReelAg6 said:

Tailgate88 said:

BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him


He said earlier in the thread that the potential buyers and staff had both put quite a bit of time and effort into preparing their presentation and they deserved a chance to be heard and make their case. Even if he is predisposed to a vote one way or another it sounds like he will hear them out at least.

city staff has never given a damn when a private developer has a bunch of time, money and energy invested in a project. Too bad, so sad.


Who authorizes/directs City Staff to put in major time and effort on a project like this before it comes before Council?

Was the idea already previously pitched to the City Council in a previous executive session and the City Council directed staff to move forward with the project?





tu ag
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Y'all REALLY need to watch this...
Omperlodge
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I have no doubt that if this wasn't on city owned land this would be a no go from the beginning. That is what ticks me off the most.
Queso1
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I don't understand why the city owns land that is not for a public purpose.
dachicken89
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This is david white's standard reply copy and paste. I've got the same exact verbiage on two other issues we've raised to council this past year.
EliteElectric
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Omperlodge said:

I have no doubt that if this wasn't on city owned land this would be a no go from the beginning. That is what ticks me off the most.

100%

Taxpayers- "Hey city staff, what's up with all of that development that was promised at Midtown?"

City Staff- "We have something very exciting to share with you in a few months"

Taxpayers- "Can you give us a hint?"

City Staff
- "No it's double secret right now but trust us it's exciting, you guys will be excited about it"

months later

City Staff- "Tada! It's a loud, polluting, resource hogging monstrosity that will bring us zero sales tax revenue, but look at the bright side we won't have to answer for lack of development at Midtown anymore so we see that as a win!!!"

Taxpayers
- "wait ....wut? "
Hornbeck
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ElephantRider said:

Hornbeck said:

MsDoubleD81 said:

MiMi said:

Why can't Mr. Yancy say how he will vote when Mr. Wright announced his vote earlier today?

I wondered this too.


I've seen Smith claiming "it's not a crypto mine", and he's voting for it.

The contract strongly suggests, that's not true.

If Priority Power is involved, I'd bet money it's crypto


Same. They work on crypto almost exclusively.

All the lawsuits I've seen them involved in revolve around crypto.

"Hornbeck is a kook for saying this. It's not crypto." - City Manager, probably
ukbb2003
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Omperlodge said:

I have no doubt that if this wasn't on city owned land this would be a no go from the beginning. That is what ticks me off the most.


100%. If this was private land, no chance in hell they get this rezoned for a DC.
Hornbeck
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"The rules are for thee, and not for meeee!"
TAMU1990
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The city manager needs to be fired.
aggiepaintrain
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ElephantRider said:

BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him

Yancy wants his convention center


Get this data center taken off the table and we can name it after him. The convention center is nothing compared to this debacle.
maroon barchetta
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aggiepaintrain said:

ElephantRider said:

BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him

Yancy wants his convention center


Get this data center taken off the table and we can name it after him. The convention center is nothing compared to this debacle.



Ah, here we go.

This thread creation is nothing but a red herring.

Get everyone mad at the data center idea, then the conference/event center doesn't look bad or expensive. In the end, people will beg for the conference/event center to go on this tract in Midtown just to prevent a data center from ever going there.

Councilman Yancy is playing 4D chess here.

Well done, Councilman.
etj77845
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Yancy quoted on KBTX :" "This one is really, really difficult because there's a significant financial upside for the city, and that helps the citizens. We're in the safety and services business, and you can provide a lot of safety and services with an agreement like this. But we're also a community of neighborhood integrity. And so those two ideals clash on this project,"

ALL about the money folks. Been my experience COCS leadership that communicating with Council/Staff is slightly more difficult than communicating with the dead.



Hornbeck
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aggiepaintrain said:

ElephantRider said:

BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him

Yancy wants his convention center


Get this data center taken off the table and we can name it after him. The convention center is nothing compared to this debacle.


I might be inclined to begrudgingly say yes to the Bob Yancy Convention Center and Monorail Station at that point. You all heard it here first on TexAgs. I know maroon barchetta is so disappointed in me right now.
Aggie_Fire
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Queso1 said:

I don't understand why the city owns land that is not for a public purpose.

It is very common practice for city's to own land. This is done to ENSURE things like this data center don't get built in the middle of the city. The city owns land to help entice businesses (like Costco) to come and invest in our city. That's why we have zoning, this is all done to help build a community that makes sense and one that is beneficial to its residents. This is not beneficial to the residents, and hurts those that live nearby.

IF THIS WAS PRIVATE LAND, the citizen's would have no say if the data center was built there. Be grateful the city owns this land and can help control what goes on it. This is the ONLY reason anyone has a voice in this matter.
maroon barchetta
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Hornbeck said:

aggiepaintrain said:

ElephantRider said:

BQ_90 said:

EliteElectric said:

He refused to divuldge

Then I will assume that is a yes from him

Yancy wants his convention center


Get this data center taken off the table and we can name it after him. The convention center is nothing compared to this debacle.


I might be inclined to begrudgingly say yes to the Bob Yancy Convention Center and Monorail Station at that point. You all heard it here first on TexAgs. I know maroon barchetta is so disappointed in me right now.


Who hacked your account?
mwm
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City Staff- "No it's double secret right now but trust us it's exciting, you guys will be excited about it"

They were right - we're really "excited about it" but it's not the kind of excitement they were hoping for.
Hornbeck
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"Excited"... not so much.

"Furious" is the word I might use.
EliteElectric
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mwm said:

City Staff- "No it's double secret right now but trust us it's exciting, you guys will be excited about it"

They were right - we're really "excited about it" but it's not the kind of excitement they were hoping for.


Yeah they pretty much kicked the hornets nest this time.
Hornbeck
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I'll preface this by saying, "We didn't start the fire....", meaning this is not my website.

But I was reached out to by this person, a concerned citizen, about the "data center".

https://nobitcoinmining.com/
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etj77845 said:

Yancy quoted on KBTX :" "This one is really, really difficult because there's a significant financial upside for the city, and that helps the citizens. We're in the safety and services business, and you can provide a lot of safety and services with an agreement like this. But we're also a community of neighborhood integrity. And so those two ideals clash on this project,"

ALL about the money folks. Been my experience COCS leadership that communicating with Council/Staff is slightly more difficult than communicating with the dead.






The funny thing about that assertion is that police and fire line level employees will still be underpaid and understaffed no matter how much money the city brings in. College Station public safety ranks towards the bottom of their 20 comp cities when it comes to pay and has for the past 10+ years.
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Hornbeck said:

I'll preface this by saying, "We didn't start the fire....", meaning this is not my website.

But I was reached out to by this person, a concerned citizen, about the "data center".

https://nobitcoinmining.com/


This is one well put together website. Straight facts.
 
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