Minneapolis getting Hot?

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aggiehawg said:

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Gaeilge said:





That's because there are not a lot of the amigos up there. Surprised they could even find a Mexican restaurant.

Should watch Diner's Drive In's and Dives, I swear Guy Fieri shows you the hotspots up there.
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I am certainly open to reassessing the legal analysis of this case if the medical evidence warrants such.

That's exactly what happened with me during the Chauvin case. That video was damning but then when the medical evidence began to come out, what we saw on that video did not result in any injuries and certainly not of the lethal kind. Then the tox report was released and explained that discrepancy.
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Rapier108 said:


Police will fire until the threat is stopped. If one shot does it, great. If it takes 500, so be it. It also doesn't matter if the first shot is a kill shot, the last shot, or one in between.

The agent had a second to make a decision, and wasn't going to count his shots just to make you or anyone else feel better.

Every other officer who has made a legit mistake firing their weapon, could claim "split second decision", and that should certainly be factored in.

This topic isnt going away, so might as well acknowledge the side window shot could be a major issue for his defense arguement.
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agsalaska said:

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Im trying to figure out the ammo. That gun is a .45/410 and thats some kind of boutique load but I do not recognize it. Thought it was an Underwood but it's not.

Looks like Fort Scott Munitions 225gr solid copper

https://fortscottmunitions.com/products/45-long-colt-tui-225gr-ammo
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Defense where?
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FobTies said:

1981 Monte Carlo said:

I would extend a little bit of grace and benefit of the doubt to any human in that situation who may take one extra shot in an event like that.


Yeah, thats where a jury comes in to determine if the "extra shot" fits the letter of the law.

I just try to be consistent. The Mesa PD cop went too far shooting Daniel Shaver claiming he was "reaching for a gun". You probably didnt extend grace with those shots. Many also didnt extend grace to Byrd for shooting Babbot.

So thats my point. The left being totally irrational and incapable of objective reason is irrelevant.

IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped. So, if his first shot to stop a dangerous person using her car as a weapon to attack him was justified, as long as she was still moving forward and not stopped, his subsequent shots are justified, whether they came through the windshield or the side window.
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Should watch Diner's Drive In's and Dives, I swear Guy Fieri shows you the hotspots up there.

We can't get decent Tex Mex in Arkansas. Not remotely enticed by a Minneapolis version. (And I do watch his show. Watch all of his shows. I'm a foodie.)
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txags92 said:

FobTies said:

1981 Monte Carlo said:

I would extend a little bit of grace and benefit of the doubt to any human in that situation who may take one extra shot in an event like that.


Yeah, thats where a jury comes in to determine if the "extra shot" fits the letter of the law.

I just try to be consistent. The Mesa PD cop went too far shooting Daniel Shaver claiming he was "reaching for a gun". You probably didnt extend grace with those shots. Many also didnt extend grace to Byrd for shooting Babbot.

So thats my point. The left being totally irrational and incapable of objective reason is irrelevant.

IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped. So, if his first shot to stop a dangerous person using her car as a weapon to attack him was justified, as long as she was still moving forward and not stopped, his subsequent shots are justified, whether they came through the windshield or the side window.
Yup. Good shoot.

It's sad and a person's life was lost and that's not something to celebrate.

But it was a good shoot.
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fredfredunderscorefred said:

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Raiderjay said:

Thank God idiot Crockett chimed in......




She possesses.....other ways of knowing.


Well they are the modern day slaves for democrats. Still the plantation party, and they don't like anybody messing with their slaves. Dems are ok encouraging horrific treks for people so they can have their cheap labor, but it's pretty gross.

^^^^^^^^^THIS 100%! Don't you dare give me that party switch talking point BUL***** This has been, is and will always be the American Democrat party.
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aggiehawg said:

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Should watch Diner's Drive In's and Dives, I swear Guy Fieri shows you the hotspots up there.

We can't get decent Tex Mex in Arkansas. Not remotely enticed by a Minneapolis version. (And I do watch his show. Watch all of his shows. I'm a foodie.)

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aggiehawg said:

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Should watch Diner's Drive In's and Dives, I swear Guy Fieri shows you the hotspots up there.

We can't get decent Tex Mex in Arkansas. Not remotely enticed by a Minneapolis version. (And I do watch his show. Watch all of his shows. I'm a foodie.)

"Shut the front door" great Mexican food in Minnesota and they no habla ingles? Seems totally not illegal immigrants.
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FobTies said:

Rapier108 said:


Police will fire until the threat is stopped. If one shot does it, great. If it takes 500, so be it. It also doesn't matter if the first shot is a kill shot, the last shot, or one in between.

The agent had a second to make a decision, and wasn't going to count his shots just to make you or anyone else feel better.

Every other officer who has made a legit mistake firing their weapon, could claim "split second decision", and that should certainly be factored in.

This topic isnt going away, so might as well acknowledge the side window shot could be a major issue for his defense arguement.

It's not going a way because you're too obtuse to let it go.
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txags92 said:


IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.


I think the arguement would be that once the officer was on the side of a car moving the opposite direction, the threat had stopped.

Of course, we see mag dumps all the time when suspects are armed or are assaulting a cop....fire away. Or firing over the hood like the ICE agents initial shots.

The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?

Im not excusing the crazy lib. But if the 3rd shot killed her, I dont think its as cut and dry as yall think.
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FobTies said:

txags92 said:


IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.


I think the arguement would be that once the officer was on the side of a car moving the opposite direction, the threat had stopped.

Of course, we see mag dumps all the time when suspects are armed or are assaulting a cop....fire away. Or firing over the hood like the ICE agents initial shots.

The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?

Im not excusing the crazy lib. But if the 3rd shot killed her, I dont think its as cut and dry as yall think.

If she is willing to attack him with her car to avoid arrest, then he has no reason to suspect that she wouldn't run over anybody else who happens to be in her way as she tries to get away. There are dozens of people standing around the scene besides the ICE agent and he has no idea how many more might be in her path if she gets past him. Once he has determined she is a lethal threat and is justified to shoot to stop her, that judgement doesn't change just because she is past him if he believes she is a threat to others in the same way.
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93MarineHorn said:

FobTies said:

Rapier108 said:


Police will fire until the threat is stopped. If one shot does it, great. If it takes 500, so be it. It also doesn't matter if the first shot is a kill shot, the last shot, or one in between.

The agent had a second to make a decision, and wasn't going to count his shots just to make you or anyone else feel better.

Every other officer who has made a legit mistake firing their weapon, could claim "split second decision", and that should certainly be factored in.

This topic isnt going away, so might as well acknowledge the side window shot could be a major issue for his defense arguement.

It's not going a way because you're too obtuse to let it go.

Engage until the threat is neutralized.

Ex:

Hey Gunny, the car is still moving.

Light the mother****er up until it stops or blows the **** up! I'm not going to your ****ing funerals!


ETA: How I really said it.
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FobTies said:

txags92 said:


IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.




The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?



There are many examples, search youtube for body cam footage. Even examples where people "drove away" then backed up or turned around and came back at officers. Or drove at other officers while they "drove away". Its easy to find examples.
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samurai_science said:

FobTies said:

txags92 said:


IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.




The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?



There are many examples, search youtube for body cam footage. Even examples where people "drove away" then backed up or turned around and came back at officers. Or drove at other officers while they "drove away". Its easy to find examples.

Yeah, in this case she already backed up and nearly hit at least a couple of bystanders (including her own wife) before accelerating forward towards him. He has no idea after that first shot if she plans to throw it in reverse and come back at all of them. So he has no obligation to stop shooting because in his view, she is still a threat that needs to be neutralized.
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Ok, arguing his 3rd shot was to defend other pedestrians is fine.

I dont really have a dog in this fight. If the state is even able to bring charges, it likely hinges on the final gunshots.....then all the different arguements can be made to justify the totality of his actions.

The direction of tires or the other nonsense coming from the left is irrelevant compared to this topic.
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FobTies said:

Rapier108 said:


Police will fire until the threat is stopped. If one shot does it, great. If it takes 500, so be it. It also doesn't matter if the first shot is a kill shot, the last shot, or one in between.

The agent had a second to make a decision, and wasn't going to count his shots just to make you or anyone else feel better.

Every other officer who has made a legit mistake firing their weapon, could claim "split second decision", and that should certainly be factored in.

This topic isnt going away, so might as well acknowledge the side window shot could be a major issue for his defense arguement.


Nope. He gets to shoot until the threat is ended
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samurai_science said:


There are many examples, search youtube for body cam footage. Even examples where people "drove away" then backed up or turned around and came back at officers. Or drove at other officers while they "drove away". Its easy to find examples.

Can you provide an example of cop killing a fleeing driver? Not being difficult, but I looked....I found this where cop claimed his gun accidentally discharged and the suspect survived.

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Here ya go

https://discoverthecities.com/diners-drive-ins-dives-minneapolis/

When ICE goes into a restaurant, do they ask for light-ice or extra-ice when ordering?
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samurai_science said:

FobTies said:

txags92 said:


IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.




The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?



There are many examples, search youtube for body cam footage. Even examples where people "drove away" then backed up or turned around and came back at officers. Or drove at other officers while they "drove away". It's easy to find examples.
Yeah she was already acting irrationally. After being shot but not killed who knows if she would continue acting irrationally? Very sad but justified shooting.
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Nope. He gets to shoot until the threat is ended



Not really relevant in this case as officer fired 3 shots in less than 2 seconds. He was not assessing if the threat continued between each shot.
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Who?mikejones! said:



Hmm....
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txags92 said:

FobTies said:

txags92 said:


IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.


I think the arguement would be that once the officer was on the side of a car moving the opposite direction, the threat had stopped.

Of course, we see mag dumps all the time when suspects are armed or are assaulting a cop....fire away. Or firing over the hood like the ICE agents initial shots.

The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?

Im not excusing the crazy lib. But if the 3rd shot killed her, I dont think its as cut and dry as yall think.

If she is willing to attack him with her car to avoid arrest, then he has no reason to suspect that she wouldn't run over anybody else who happens to be in her way as she tries to get away. There are dozens of people standing around the scene besides the ICE agent and he has no idea how many more might be in her path if she gets past him. Once he has determined she is a lethal threat and is justified to shoot to stop her, that judgement doesn't change just because she is past him if he believes she is a threat to others in the same way.

Bingo. The threat was not neutralized. She endangered every person on that street cop or no cop. She decided to turn her vehicle into an assault weapon and the rest is history. Really is terrible. But pretty cut and dry. Does that mean we will not see this challenged? Of course not.
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Other than making Minnesota hot, not sure this has anything to do with this thread
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BQ78 said:

Other than making Minnesota hot, not sure this has anything to do with this thread

think the inference was is this sabotage.....probably not, but...
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Where do the anarchists get money for umbrellas? Stop the funding.
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Doubt it although that county was blue for president for 100 years until 2024.
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Raiderjay said:

Who?mikejones! said:



Hmm....

Insert Insurrectionists Everywhere meme
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oh no said:




Where do the anarchists get money for umbrellas? Stop the funding.

USAID?

Why do you think democrats everywhere (including on Texags) were whining about it?
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Gene Kelly had an umbrella. He still got wet.
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deddog said:

oh no said:




Where do the anarchists get money for umbrellas? Stop the funding.

USAID?

Why do you think democrats everywhere (including on Texags) were whining about it?


I hear shotguns are no match for an umbrella. I hope this is their strategy.
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Raiderjay said:

Thank God idiot Crockett chimed in......




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