Need a Homan Update

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Maybe our DOJ can jump on this nonsense.
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Colorado is now requiring lawyers in the State, as a condition of logging into its court e-filing system, to promise not to cooperate with federal authorities in enforcing federal immigration law.

Please understand:
- I do not practice immigration law.
- I do not practice criminal law.
- Nothing about my civil practice has anything to do with this.

And yet because I cannot log into the State's official e-filing system without saluting The Resistance, I now cannot represent my clients, file lawsuits, access cases, file documents in existing cases, etc.

If I click "Decline," it kicks me out of the system. I must click "Accept" to access the system and continue representing my civil clients -- again, in cases that have absolutely nothing to do with immigration law or policy.

I've read SB 25-276 (the law referred to below). It does not regulate me as a private attorney or any of the clients I represent in civil matters. This is outrageous draconian overreach.

I have ethical obligations to my clients to represent them competently. My existing cases have running deadlines that I must attend to. Judges issue orders in my cases that I must follow. If I don't click "Accept" in order to access the State's e-filing system, I will harm my clients, torpedo my practice, and probably commit malpractice. So, I have no choice.

I'm clicking "Accept" under protest.
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96AgGrad said:


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Colorado is now requiring lawyers in the State, as a condition of logging into its court e-filing system, to promise not to cooperate with federal authorities in enforcing federal immigration law.

Please understand:
- I do not practice immigration law.
- I do not practice criminal law.
- Nothing about my civil practice has anything to do with this.

And yet because I cannot log into the State's official e-filing system without saluting The Resistance, I now cannot represent my clients, file lawsuits, access cases, file documents in existing cases, etc.

If I click "Decline," it kicks me out of the system. I must click "Accept" to access the system and continue representing my civil clients -- again, in cases that have absolutely nothing to do with immigration law or policy.

I've read SB 25-276 (the law referred to below). It does not regulate me as a private attorney or any of the clients I represent in civil matters. This is outrageous draconian overreach.

I have ethical obligations to my clients to represent them competently. My existing cases have running deadlines that I must attend to. Judges issue orders in my cases that I must follow. If I don't click "Accept" in order to access the State's e-filing system, I will harm my clients, torpedo my practice, and probably commit malpractice. So, I have no choice.

I'm clicking "Accept" under protest.



That sounds...kinda...unconstitutional...
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MaxPower
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My issue is there's no real punishment. This can go to SCOTUS and get overturned but how does the State get punished for passing these illegal laws? People should be able to sue the **** out of them
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MaxPower said:

My issue is there's no real punishment. This can go to SCOTUS and get overturned but how does the State get punished for passing these illegal laws? People should be able to sue the **** out of them

Yes, they can sue from their home country.
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That has nothing to do with lawyers who are put in a position to either be unable to serve their clients or live in fear of being prosecuted themselves if they lie by accepting those terms and conditions.
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MaxPower said:

That has nothing to do with lawyers who are put in a position to either be unable to serve their clients or live in fear of being prosecuted themselves if they lie by accepting those terms and conditions.

Sorry, I thought your comment was about TX policies regarding illegals. You were referring to CO's law requiring lawyers to swear they won't cooperate with ICE?
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Deerdude
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Evil ICE should announce these things so that Antifa doesn't look more foolish, if that's possible.
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will25u said:



God...

White liberal women are SO ****ing annoying...
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Hated the accommodations at Alligator Alcatraz? The DRC says hold my beer.
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infinity ag
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"Need a Homan Update"

Where is Homan these days anyway?

Sleeping? What happened to the mass deportations?
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will25u said:



Just reciprocate.

Make it illegal for any current resident of CA to apply for a Federal job while this law is in effect.

Some judge will put in a TRO against Trump preventing him from doing that, which would make it easy to get this specific law thrown out as well.

If you want to play this game the Obama way, the next thing you do is use the IRS to aggressively audit every single person in California that supported this bill, and every single staffer of every single person who also supported the bill. Of course, that would be illegal, but just putting it out there that this is the type of tactic that the Left would use to combat crap like this.
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infinity ag said:

"Need a Homan Update"

Where is Homan these days anyway?

Sleeping? What happened to the mass deportations?

Did you even read the last two pages of this thread.

He is quietly getting **** done, out of the spotlight, like he should be.
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So, I did exactly what you asked and I sat down and read ALL 261 pages of your bill.

It does support mass amnesty and I'll tell you exactly where:

Pages 162-170... The Dream Act:

You grant conditional lawful permanent resident status to ILLEGAL ALIENS who:

>Have been continuously present in the U.S. since January 1, 2021
>Entered before age 18
>Meet education, employment, or military service requirements
>Pass criminal background checks

On top of this, in Sec. 2102(b)(3)(B), DACA recipients get fast-tracked to conditional green card status.

...which is literally mass amnesty

BUT THE BILL GOES EVEN FURTHER!!!

On pages 204-217, you present the Dignity Program:

This is a separate track for illegal aliens who don't qualify for the Dream Act.

If you are an illegal aliens who:

> Was continuously present since December 31, 2020
>Pay a $1,000 upfront "restitution" fee
>Submit biometrics, pass a background check
>No felony convictions

You get work authorization + travel authorization + deferred removal for 7 years

After completing the 7-year program (paying $7,000 total in fees, staying employed, obeying laws, paying back taxes):

We grant you:
> "Dignity Status" which is essentially a lawful nonimmigrant status, which is renewable any number of times
>Work and travel authorization

But the most important bit that you're hiding here is that it totally suspends deportation of anyone who qualifies for this.

This would effective end ALL MASS DEPORTATIONS in the United States immediately.

You are a liar, you are a fraud, everything you stand for is fake... did YOU read your own bill?

Because I just did, and you are a damned LIAR!!!!!

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Pwned.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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will25u said:



Quote:

So, I did exactly what you asked and I sat down and read ALL 261 pages of your bill.

It does support mass amnesty and I'll tell you exactly where:

Pages 162-170... The Dream Act:

You grant conditional lawful permanent resident status to ILLEGAL ALIENS who:

>Have been continuously present in the U.S. since January 1, 2021
>Entered before age 18
>Meet education, employment, or military service requirements
>Pass criminal background checks

On top of this, in Sec. 2102(b)(3)(B), DACA recipients get fast-tracked to conditional green card status.

...which is literally mass amnesty

BUT THE BILL GOES EVEN FURTHER!!!

On pages 204-217, you present the Dignity Program:

This is a separate track for illegal aliens who don't qualify for the Dream Act.

If you are an illegal aliens who:

> Was continuously present since December 31, 2020
>Pay a $1,000 upfront "restitution" fee
>Submit biometrics, pass a background check
>No felony convictions

You get work authorization + travel authorization + deferred removal for 7 years

After completing the 7-year program (paying $7,000 total in fees, staying employed, obeying laws, paying back taxes):

We grant you:
> "Dignity Status" which is essentially a lawful nonimmigrant status, which is renewable any number of times
>Work and travel authorization

But the most important bit that you're hiding here is that it totally suspends deportation of anyone who qualifies for this.

This would effective end ALL MASS DEPORTATIONS in the United States immediately.

You are a liar, you are a fraud, everything you stand for is fake... did YOU read your own bill?

Because I just did, and you are a damned LIAR!!!!!


one of the first comments after his post was to Grok, how much of a burn was this response, which Grok gave a solid 8/10.

Unfortunately she probably didn't read her own bill either.
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will25u said:



Quote:

So, I did exactly what you asked and I sat down and read ALL 261 pages of your bill.

It does support mass amnesty and I'll tell you exactly where:

Pages 162-170... The Dream Act:

You grant conditional lawful permanent resident status to ILLEGAL ALIENS who:

>Have been continuously present in the U.S. since January 1, 2021
>Entered before age 18
>Meet education, employment, or military service requirements
>Pass criminal background checks

On top of this, in Sec. 2102(b)(3)(B), DACA recipients get fast-tracked to conditional green card status.

...which is literally mass amnesty

BUT THE BILL GOES EVEN FURTHER!!!

On pages 204-217, you present the Dignity Program:

This is a separate track for illegal aliens who don't qualify for the Dream Act.

If you are an illegal aliens who:

> Was continuously present since December 31, 2020
>Pay a $1,000 upfront "restitution" fee
>Submit biometrics, pass a background check
>No felony convictions

You get work authorization + travel authorization + deferred removal for 7 years

After completing the 7-year program (paying $7,000 total in fees, staying employed, obeying laws, paying back taxes):

We grant you:
> "Dignity Status" which is essentially a lawful nonimmigrant status, which is renewable any number of times
>Work and travel authorization

But the most important bit that you're hiding here is that it totally suspends deportation of anyone who qualifies for this.

This would effective end ALL MASS DEPORTATIONS in the United States immediately.

You are a liar, you are a fraud, everything you stand for is fake... did YOU read your own bill?

Because I just did, and you are a damned LIAR!!!!!


Regardless of how inaccurate and ignorant her post was, I agree with all those stipulations. Amnesty for productive immigrants, whether they got here legally or not, is a necessary step for bipartisan support. However, more pragmatically, if we are going to allow fairly easy work access for immigrants to come in and work going forward then what is the point of having those people leave the country just to immediately come back? Giant waste of government money to deport them to begin with.
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Because the border is not wide open now. They can't just come back as easily as before.
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Mara Elvira Salazar has been pushing full amnesty for years.

This is just her latest attempt.

If I was in her district, I'd consider voting for the Democrat just to be rid of her for good. One of the worst Republicans in Congress.
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I don't agree with any of those stipulations. Deport all of those who entered illegally and do it immediately. They have been given plenty of time to self deport. They have been given financial incentives to self deport and get a do-over. Go now.

Salazar also needs to go. She is the Trojan horse representative. Vote her out. Split her district between two other Republicans. Conduct targeted enforcement operations on her staff and donors.
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We have totally switched from a sort of equilibrium of needs - what industry needs in terms of labor vs what a socialist regime needs in terms of future voters.

You no longer just have businesses being lax on identification for their contract and temp labor and regulators looking the other way because it's needed... you now have democrats and bureaucrats, who control courts, media, and tech platform monopolies, encouraging, inviting, and incentivizing everyone in the world to waltz on in here if they want free stuff and claim "asylum" simply because they want free stuff. That only happened because the the (former) anti-business and socialist leaning labor and minority 'compassionate' party realized a populist movement made them lose so much support to the point where they can't win elections on their policies and platform anymore. So, they just flooded the country without a single solitary F given for citizens' safety or the ability for tax 'revenue' or the economy to support housing and infrastructure needed. It's a destructive disaster that has us heading towards Venezuela 2.0 where only the political elite socialists can gain from it temporarily before it's all gone.
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