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K Bo said:

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To me the bigger issue is you have a city government using their funds to paint a city maintained road being told they can't do what they want with their money because the governor will withhold state funds unless they follow HIS wishes. So much for the party of small government.

2nd, from the roadway standpoint, there is a set of standards and guidelines that apply across the entire state as well as the country. It's why you can go drive in a new state for the first time and still know that a stop sign will be a red octagon with white lettering. But you know that I'm sure. There is nothing in those manuals that allows for entities to just do whatever they want, whether it's a rainbow, MAGA, or something else. Guidelines exist for a reason, and ignoring them because it's inconvenient or you want to make a political statement is wrong, regardless of who's doing it. And just because it was wrong for 8 years doesn't somehow exempt it from being called wrong eventually.


Well. Go on then. Post the standard and explain the violation from a roadway standpoint for crosswalks.

If you can point to what exact State or Federal standard the crosswalk ran afoul of… I'll eat my crow. I think you'll have trouble doing that though because when I Google creative city crosswalks in America… it seems like a lot fall out of 'standard'.

I don't have a dog in this fight and generally DGAS, but it seems as though these crosswalks could qualify as "distracting"

Crosswalk Marking Selection Guide

"...and expected so as not to be a source of distraction." (pg23)


Nice try but you omitted some important clarification in that … on page 23
Texaggie7nine
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They just need to do rainbow little banners all down Westheimer near Montrose. We all know it's the gay district, what's the big deal with letting them celebrate it? If they can have Chinese or Vietnamese road signs in Sharpstown, they should be able to have gay signs in the gay district.
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There used to be little rainbow banners attached to the light poles.

And pink triangles. There used to be pink triangles on lots of the poles down in that area. Not sure what happened with the pink triangles.
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maroon barchetta said:

There used to be little rainbow banners attached to the light poles.

And pink triangles. There used to be pink triangles on lots of the poles down in that area. Not sure what happened with the pink triangles.

Snowflakes got their feelings hurt.
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ATM9000 said:

YellAg2004 said:

cajunaggie08 said:

To me the bigger issue is you have a city government using their funds to paint a city maintained road being told they can't do what they want with their money because the governor will withhold state funds unless they follow HIS wishes. So much for the party of small government.

2nd, from the roadway standpoint, there is a set of standards and guidelines that apply across the entire state as well as the country. It's why you can go drive in a new state for the first time and still know that a stop sign will be a red octagon with white lettering. But you know that I'm sure. There is nothing in those manuals that allows for entities to just do whatever they want, whether it's a rainbow, MAGA, or something else. Guidelines exist for a reason, and ignoring them because it's inconvenient or you want to make a political statement is wrong, regardless of who's doing it. And just because it was wrong for 8 years doesn't somehow exempt it from being called wrong eventually.


Well. Go on then. Post the standard and explain the violation from a roadway standpoint for crosswalks.

If you can point to what exact State or Federal standard the crosswalk ran afoul of… I'll eat my crow. I think you'll have trouble doing that though because when I Google creative city crosswalks in America… it seems like a lot fall out of 'standard'.

I don't see the rainbow colors here

https://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-info/cst/DMS/8000_series/archives/8200-1206.pdf
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I'm adding this thread to the neighborhood recommendation and any of the Katy restaurant recommendation threads as reasons for those of us that moved away to keep coming to the Houston board.
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If they can have Chinese or Vietnamese road signs in Sharpstown

Legitimate traffic safety issue.
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cajunaggie08 said:

maroon barchetta said:

Ryan the Temp said:

MelvinUdall said:

Ryan the Temp said:

One more win for the bigots.

Texas is governed by anonymous Tik Tok accounts and Ron Desantis.


I personally don't care about this issue, but calling people bigot because they don't want a road crossing painted in the LGBTQ flag colors seems a little over the top.

If Greg Abbot doesn't want to be called a bigot, he should stop being a bigot.


Where are the crosswalks that celebrate straight people

When is Straight Pride Month?

It doesn't really work to say "we just want to be treated the same as everybody else and be given the same opportunities" while also taking every available chance to say "LOOK AT ME! NOTICE ME! I AM SPECIAL AND DIFFERENT!!!"


When were people beaten or prevented from having a romantic partner publicly because they were straight?


Charlie Kirk was murdered for being a Christian. I'm sure you would support a "Jesus loves you!" Crosswalk paid for by tax payers.
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Captain Winky said:

This is a classic 'who gives a fack' issue. On one side, why do the gheys need an intersection of roads to be multicolored? And equally stupid on the other side, why do you care so much about what color an intersection of roads is?

I remember a day when roads were used you know for driving, riding a bike, walking instead of weird political takes.
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Victimhood status achieved


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Texaggie7nine said:

They just need to do rainbow little banners all down Westheimer near Montrose. We all know it's the gay district, what's the big deal with letting them celebrate it? If they can have Chinese or Vietnamese road signs in Sharpstown, they should be able to have gay signs in the gay district.

you are equating sex to ethnic groups? When do the trans get their own little district.
Captain Winky
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That was the reason?
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Let's get to painting over this too.

Had no idea there was a burn/loot/murder public roadway defacement by Yates HS in memory of a violent felon and ex-con who was committing a federal crime while high on a lethal drug at the time of his arrest resistance.

K Bo
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Nice try what? This is a stupid argument and all I was doing was objectively posting the DOT suggested markings. Rather be passive aggressive, why don't you post what I "left out"?
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K Bo said:

Nice try what? This is a stupid argument and all I was doing was objectively posting the DOT suggested markings. Rather be passive aggressive, why don't you post what I "left out"?


In the quote ahead of your 5 words, they describe that a tranverse must be marked around crosswalk art and then it goes on to say patterns must be consistent, uniform and repetitive. That's the meat of the '…' you conveniently left out to win the argument you have declared you don't care that much about.
K Bo
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JFC. Ok, thanks.
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K Bo said:

JFC. Ok, thanks.



Hahahah 'JFC'. From the guy who wants to act too cool to worry about this yet cared enough to do some reading on this (which means you've done a LOT more work on this one than I have) but then didn't understand the quotation he cited. Fantastic.
K Bo
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I interpret what I posted one way, you interpret it another. I don't have a problem with either interpretation, just posting that crosswalks painted for gays, straights, whatever could be seen as distracting.

Thanks for the discourse, have a nice day, and BTHO Florida.
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drumboy said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

cajunaggie08 said:

maroon barchetta said:

Ryan the Temp said:

MelvinUdall said:

Ryan the Temp said:

One more win for the bigots.

Texas is governed by anonymous Tik Tok accounts and Ron Desantis.


I personally don't care about this issue, but calling people bigot because they don't want a road crossing painted in the LGBTQ flag colors seems a little over the top.

If Greg Abbot doesn't want to be called a bigot, he should stop being a bigot.


Where are the crosswalks that celebrate straight people

When is Straight Pride Month?

It doesn't really work to say "we just want to be treated the same as everybody else and be given the same opportunities" while also taking every available chance to say "LOOK AT ME! NOTICE ME! I AM SPECIAL AND DIFFERENT!!!"


When were people beaten or prevented from having a romantic partner publicly because they were straight?

Ah ok, by that logic, we should have "white pride" crosswalks since many whites have been beaten and killed for being white...far more than gays being killed for being gay. Blacks are 12x more likely to kill whites than whites are to kill blacks. White pride crosswalks and murals...we all on board? Plz don't be a bigot.

Literally every single other crosswalk is white.


HELL YEA BOYS. WHITE POWER.
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You got any?
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Texaggie7nine said:

They just need to do rainbow little banners all down Westheimer near Montrose. We all know it's the gay district, what's the big deal with letting them celebrate it? If they can have Chinese or Vietnamese road signs in Sharpstown, they should be able to have gay signs in the gay district.


They should spell all the street names out how they would be pronounced with a lisp
maroon barchetta
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Mega Lops said:

Let's get to painting over this too.

Had no idea there was a burn/loot/murder public roadway defacement by Yates HS in memory of a violent felon and ex-con who was committing a federal crime while high on a lethal drug at the time of his arrest resistance.




The people whose lives matter don't all believe this based on crime statistics. They want YOU to live it, but they themselves don't have to actually live it.
inconvenient truth
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schmendeler said:

Great that our state is governed by people that think they are in a Trump adoration contest.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way to your ideal sanctuaries run by morons in a contest to see who can destroy their urban areas the quickest.
inconvenient truth
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Ryan the Temp said:

cajunaggie08 said:

Ag87H2O said:

Ryan the Temp said:

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They are a needless safety hazard and a distraction to drivers.

Statistics say otherwise. There have been zero reported crashes of any type at this intersection since the crosswalk was installed 8 years ago.

https://cris.dot.state.tx.us/public/Query/app/query-builder
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/1fa762632db9400d8dce1c9cc8c2e76a

But we all know this isn't about safety and never was.

I do believe it could be a distraction, especially for people passing through that don't normally drive in that area, and it is completely unnecessary.

By your stance, I'm sure you wouldn't mind if there was a big red MAGA crosswalk across Montrose either.

But there are people on the political right and left who are gay. Having rainbow anything SHOULDN'T be seen as political.

And no one cared about this crosswalk for eight years until Libs of Tik Tok and Brian Harrison started complaining about it this week. Suddenly Greg Abbott thinks it's a ****ing safety emergency.

Unless I missed it Abbott is simply saying that public infrastructure shouldn't be used as a prop for political statements on either side, not it being a safety issue. This really shouldn't be that controversial but of course the left's overbearing emotions shine through yet again.
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I am still waiting a response how Abbot is a bigot…is it because of this crosswalk issue or is there some other underlying issue that I am not aware of.
inconvenient truth
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schmendeler said:

Maybe dear leader will save us from the terror of many colors on pavement by sending in the army.

You mean like your dear leader?

https://nypost.com/2024/08/13/us-news/cops-enforcing-tim-walzs-curfew-shot-residents-with-paintballs-video/
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If they aren't in the MUTCD then they are not allowed
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maroon barchetta said:

sts7049 said:

Ag87H2O said:

Ryan the Temp said:

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They are a needless safety hazard and a distraction to drivers.

Statistics say otherwise. There have been zero reported crashes of any type at this intersection since the crosswalk was installed 8 years ago.

https://cris.dot.state.tx.us/public/Query/app/query-builder
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/1fa762632db9400d8dce1c9cc8c2e76a

But we all know this isn't about safety and never was.

I do believe it could be a distraction, especially for people passing through that don't normally drive in that area, and it is completely unnecessary.

By your stance, I'm sure you wouldn't mind if there was a big red MAGA crosswalk across Montrose either.


if you're distracted by crosswalk paint you shouldn't be driving


What if the O Henry candy bar heiress is walking along the sidewalk wearing a bra as a top? Can I be distracted by that?

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Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

maroon barchetta said:

sts7049 said:

Ag87H2O said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Quote:

They are a needless safety hazard and a distraction to drivers.

Statistics say otherwise. There have been zero reported crashes of any type at this intersection since the crosswalk was installed 8 years ago.

https://cris.dot.state.tx.us/public/Query/app/query-builder
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/1fa762632db9400d8dce1c9cc8c2e76a

But we all know this isn't about safety and never was.

I do believe it could be a distraction, especially for people passing through that don't normally drive in that area, and it is completely unnecessary.

By your stance, I'm sure you wouldn't mind if there was a big red MAGA crosswalk across Montrose either.


if you're distracted by crosswalk paint you shouldn't be driving


What if the O Henry candy bar heiress is walking along the sidewalk wearing a bra as a top? Can I be distracted by that?




I love her whole free-swinging style!
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Drove through that intersection about an hour ago. There was a gaggle of rainbow mafia types with bullhorns out protesting. I drove through the intersection and didn't care.
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Make our roads gay again!!!!
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I think this is absolutely ridiculous. But, this is how the pendulum swings after things like the BLM street murals. Charging people with hate crimes for doing burnouts or dropping paint on streets was equally as ridiculous.

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People naturally gravitate to and affiliate with people of their own background and shared interests.

Gay men hang out with gay men, black women with black women, Christians with Christians.

Divisions within the population are natural and the challenge of society has always been to counter that with integration and a cohesive vision that unites everyone. That's why we have an American flag, the national anthem, the Fourth of July, Memorial Day, Labor Day etc.

Celebrating specific identity group holidays and symbols is a step backwards for society. Splitting and dividing the population is a recipe for societal disaster.
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Texaggie7nine said:

They just need to do rainbow little banners all down Westheimer near Montrose. We all know it's the gay district, what's the big deal with letting them celebrate it? If they can have Chinese or Vietnamese road signs in Sharpstown, they should be able to have gay signs in the gay district.

Because where someone likes to put their D isn't worthy of celebration. Outside a certain segment of the population, nobody cares.
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Are there any straight crosswalks around town that celebrate people who aren't gay?
 
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