Massie is worse than John McCain

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Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.

What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.

Empower and align? In what way? He went against the BBB (disgusting monstrosity of government spending), and pushed for the Epstein files release. How is this not conservative?
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Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.
What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.
And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?
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flown-the-coop said:

FWTXAg said:

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txags92 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

txags92 said:

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Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.

When you stop voting for conservative things and join dems to prevent conservative things from happening, you arent't a conservative anymore. Hth

Then Trump should have gone have Thune, Graham, Cornyn, Johnson, & others. The animus towards Massie is just stupid and self-sabotaging.

Thune is not up for re-election until 2028. He endorsed Cornyn's opponent. Johnson has tried to get things done and I think Tillis and McConnell have been bigger obstacles than Lindsay Graham.

I won't argue about McConnell and Tillis; they're both terrible. On Johnson, he's done too much. We need to work on the deficit and cutting back government interference into our lives. It's unsustainable, which is why I don't understand why people are so focused on Massie, who actually voted like a conservative.


Because they're low information team playing goofballs.

I have a terrible case of TDS. Trump Dissapointment Syndrome.


It's not the only issue you seem to have based on your posts. Turning the sun coming up each morning into a grand conspiracy theory before the first cup of coffee can be had is not a healthy approach to assessing the happenings in politics.


The day they ban you into the Stratosphere is going to be a great day for this forum.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.
What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.
And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.
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FWTXAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

FWTXAg said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

txags92 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

txags92 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.

When you stop voting for conservative things and join dems to prevent conservative things from happening, you arent't a conservative anymore. Hth

Then Trump should have gone have Thune, Graham, Cornyn, Johnson, & others. The animus towards Massie is just stupid and self-sabotaging.

Thune is not up for re-election until 2028. He endorsed Cornyn's opponent. Johnson has tried to get things done and I think Tillis and McConnell have been bigger obstacles than Lindsay Graham.

I won't argue about McConnell and Tillis; they're both terrible. On Johnson, he's done too much. We need to work on the deficit and cutting back government interference into our lives. It's unsustainable, which is why I don't understand why people are so focused on Massie, who actually voted like a conservative.


Because they're low information team playing goofballs.

I have a terrible case of TDS. Trump Dissapointment Syndrome.


It's not the only issue you seem to have based on your posts. Turning the sun coming up each morning into a grand conspiracy theory before the first cup of coffee can be had is not a healthy approach to assessing the happenings in politics.


The day they ban you into the Stratosphere is going to be a great day for this forum.

For what?
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flown-the-coop said:

FWTXAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

FWTXAg said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

txags92 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

txags92 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.

When you stop voting for conservative things and join dems to prevent conservative things from happening, you arent't a conservative anymore. Hth

Then Trump should have gone have Thune, Graham, Cornyn, Johnson, & others. The animus towards Massie is just stupid and self-sabotaging.

Thune is not up for re-election until 2028. He endorsed Cornyn's opponent. Johnson has tried to get things done and I think Tillis and McConnell have been bigger obstacles than Lindsay Graham.

I won't argue about McConnell and Tillis; they're both terrible. On Johnson, he's done too much. We need to work on the deficit and cutting back government interference into our lives. It's unsustainable, which is why I don't understand why people are so focused on Massie, who actually voted like a conservative.


Because they're low information team playing goofballs.

I have a terrible case of TDS. Trump Dissapointment Syndrome.


It's not the only issue you seem to have based on your posts. Turning the sun coming up each morning into a grand conspiracy theory before the first cup of coffee can be had is not a healthy approach to assessing the happenings in politics.


The day they ban you into the Stratosphere is going to be a great day for this forum.

For what?

To lefties, canceling and censoring people is one of their core beliefs.
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Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.
What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.
And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.
and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.
What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.
And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.
and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.


Any on major legislation. He broke with the party and the party broke with him.

Support the team or get the **** off it.
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Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.

What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.

And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.

and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.


Any on major legislation. He broke with the party and the party broke with him.

Support the team or get the **** off it.

Wait now you are changing the premise. We are asking about which of his views are not conservative. Now you are shuffling that to "did he vote lockstep with the GOP". The GOP is not a conservative party in case you were not aware
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Keyno said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.

What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.

And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.

and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.


Any on major legislation. He broke with the party and the party broke with him.

Support the team or get the **** off it.

Wait now you are changing the premise. We are asking about which of his views are not conservative. Now you are shuffling that to "did he vote lockstep with the GOP". The GOP is not a conservative party in case you were not aware


He voted with liberal Democrats. By definition not conservative.
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They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.
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Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.

What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.

And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.

and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.


Any on major legislation. He broke with the party and the party broke with him.

Support the team or get the **** off it.

Wait now you are changing the premise. We are asking about which of his views are not conservative. Now you are shuffling that to "did he vote lockstep with the GOP". The GOP is not a conservative party in case you were not aware


He voted with liberal Democrats. By definition not conservative.

He's even sponsored legislation with one of the most liberal Democrats, Ro Khanna, multiple times.

Very conservative.
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Ag with kids said:

Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.

What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.

And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.

and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.


Any on major legislation. He broke with the party and the party broke with him.

Support the team or get the **** off it.

Wait now you are changing the premise. We are asking about which of his views are not conservative. Now you are shuffling that to "did he vote lockstep with the GOP". The GOP is not a conservative party in case you were not aware


He voted with liberal Democrats. By definition not conservative.

He's even sponsored legislation with one of the most liberal Democrats, Ro Khanna, multiple times.

Very conservative.
Oh you mean the Epstein Transparency Act? Are you not for releasing those documents?

Are exposing pedophiles not conservative now…
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Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...
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Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ag with kids said:

Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.

What part of his views aren't conservative?


The view where it's acceptable to empower and align with liberal democrats.

And what part of his views/beliefs did he align with liberal democrats?


The most important, his votes.

and more specifically which votes? Let's break it out, and see if his reasoning is aligning with liberals and if you agree with what he's voting against.


Any on major legislation. He broke with the party and the party broke with him.

Support the team or get the **** off it.

Wait now you are changing the premise. We are asking about which of his views are not conservative. Now you are shuffling that to "did he vote lockstep with the GOP". The GOP is not a conservative party in case you were not aware


He voted with liberal Democrats. By definition not conservative.

He's even sponsored legislation with one of the most liberal Democrats, Ro Khanna, multiple times.

Very conservative.

Oh you mean the Epstein Transparency Act? Are you not for releasing those documents?

Personally, I think that issue is a great big MacGuffin...

It's REALLY interesting that the Dems had all that information for 4 years and didn't give one **** about it. But, now that it can be used to politically hurt the administration, it's their most important goal in life. And Massie's - for the exact same reason.
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Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

Voting and enabling liberal democrats is not conservative no matter how many times you try to hand wave it away.

It is an unforgivable sin.
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Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

You keep saying things he didn't.

Massie would rather the far left Democrats get what they want because he won't bend his pure ideology.

Helping to advance the cause of far left Democrats is NOT conservative.
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And that "cheap trick" does work, which is why Massie will be sitting his "principled" ass at home next year.
Keyno
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Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

Voting and enabling liberal democrats is not conservative no matter how many times you try to hand wave it away.

It is an unforgivable sin.

Yeah, we heard that argument already and we are asking WHEN did he go with the Democrats. He obviously did not go with them ALL THE TIME. It was a few very specific times. And which of those times displayed he was not conservative?
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Of course you do because Trump said so. (I Voted for Trump, it's ok to disagree on things with him)

And I agree but we all know Biden wasn't going to push to release it. But Trump could've just released it and a good majority of this blow back wouldn't have happened but he decided to die on the hill of defending the Epstein files.

And Massie did mention prior to the Trump admin. He has stated he was under the impression everything would be released when he got in office but when that didn't happen he pushed for it. I don't see how that is a negative on wanting to get transparency on something like this.

Epstein being tied to powerful individuals in the world is undeniable and is by no means a "Democratic hoax"
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Keyno said:

Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

Voting and enabling liberal democrats is not conservative no matter how many times you try to hand wave it away.

It is an unforgivable sin.

Yeah, we heard that argument already and we are asking WHEN did he go with the Democrats. He obviously did not go with them ALL THE TIME. It was a few very specific times. And which of those times displayed he was not conservative?


If he did it on any major legislation it's enough, and he did. Unforgivable and he paid the price.
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Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

Voting and enabling liberal democrats is not conservative no matter how many times you try to hand wave it away.

It is an unforgivable sin.

these reasons aren't conservative and is an unforgivable sin according to you?

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/the-lies-about-rep-thomas-massie
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Claim 1: Massie "opposed the SAVE Act," requiring proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections.
Absurd Massie has repeatedly supported the SAVE Act, He voted YES on the SAVE Act itself on the floor multiple times, and has publicly stated his support for voter ID/proof of citizenship to vote, and urged the Senate to pass the bill.
He voted NO on a single procedural rule that bundled the bill with a provision suspending the normal 24-hour notice rules for ALL spending bills and other measures.


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Claim 2: Massie "supported transgenders in women's bathrooms."
Utterly preposterous. Massie has NEVER supported any bill to allowing biological males in women's bathrooms in schools, prisons, or federal buildings.


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Claim 3: Massie voted against funding the Department of Homeland Security.
Another smear that collapses under the briefest scrutiny.
The DHS appropriations bill included funding for the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) the Democrats' censorship machine, used by the Biden administration to suppress truthful information about COVID, and Hunter Biden's laptop, among other things.
THAT was what Massie objected to as he has publicly explained multiple times.
Maybe he should have accepted government spying and censoring of Americans in exchange for the rest of the DHS bill. (Another idea: Maybe Republicans should have stripped CISA funding from the bill.) But it's absurd to claim Massie "hates border security," because he doesn't want the government censoring speech.


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Claim 4: Massie's push to release the Epstein files proves he's "anti-Trump."
If so, then Trump is "anti-Trump," since he signed Massie's bill. The bill was also supported every member of Congress but one.


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Claim 5: He hates Israel! (Also Ukraine, Taiwan, and other countries we're lavishing with U.S. foreign aid.)
Massie votes against all foreign aid. It has nothing to do with hating other countries. Sixty-two percent of Republicans agree with him.
Maybe that's why AIPAC's super PAC, "United Democracy Project," has to use shell companies to hide its massive spending against Massie as reported by Politico. UDP spokesman Patrick Dorton calls Massie, "the most anti-Israel Republican in the House."


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Massie campaigned with a Nazi Candace Owens supporter. Not hyperbole. A guy wearing an actual swastika and "America Reich" shirt. Plus ilhan omar, ro khanna, code pink, etc.

That's not very conservative.

He got exposed for being a complete nut job.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

Voting and enabling liberal democrats is not conservative no matter how many times you try to hand wave it away.

It is an unforgivable sin.
these reasons aren't conservative and is an unforgivable sin according to you?

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/the-lies-about-rep-thomas-massie
Quote:
Claim 1: Massie "opposed the SAVE Act," requiring proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections.
Absurd Massie has repeatedly supported the SAVE Act, He voted YES on the SAVE Act itself on the floor multiple times, and has publicly stated his support for voter ID/proof of citizenship to vote, and urged the Senate to pass the bill.
He voted NO on a single procedural rule that bundled the bill with a provision suspending the normal 24-hour notice rules for ALL spending bills and other measures.

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Claim 2: Massie "supported transgenders in women's bathrooms."
Utterly preposterous. Massie has NEVER supported any bill to allowing biological males in women's bathrooms in schools, prisons, or federal buildings.

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Claim 3: Massie voted against funding the Department of Homeland Security.
Another smear that collapses under the briefest scrutiny.
The DHS appropriations bill included funding for the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) the Democrats' censorship machine, used by the Biden administration to suppress truthful information about COVID, and Hunter Biden's laptop, among other things.
THAT was what Massie objected to as he has publicly explained multiple times.
Maybe he should have accepted government spying and censoring of Americans in exchange for the rest of the DHS bill. (Another idea: Maybe Republicans should have stripped CISA funding from the bill.) But it's absurd to claim Massie "hates border security," because he doesn't want the government censoring speech.

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Claim 4: Massie's push to release the Epstein files proves he's "anti-Trump."
If so, then Trump is "anti-Trump," since he signed Massie's bill. The bill was also supported every member of Congress but one.

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Claim 5: He hates Israel! (Also Ukraine, Taiwan, and other countries we're lavishing with U.S. foreign aid.)
Massie votes against all foreign aid. It has nothing to do with hating other countries. Sixty-two percent of Republicans agree with him.
Maybe that's why AIPAC's super PAC, "United Democracy Project," has to use shell companies to hide its massive spending against Massie as reported by Politico. UDP spokesman Patrick Dorton calls Massie, "the most anti-Israel Republican in the House."




I don't really give a **** what his reasons were. That's inconsequential. His job is to be a reliable Republican vote on major legislation. He wasn't. He's gone.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

Its been answered all over this thread.

Aligning with Dems was a big problem of his. Who cares what he SAYS his principles are when his VOTE (the part that counts) sided with the Dems.

How is that so ****ing hard to see?
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Teslag said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Teslag said:

Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

They'll never answer that question.

He has to bend the knee and align/vote with everything the modern day GOP is doing or he's "aligning with democrats". Just throw out his beliefs that he campaigned on and promised his voters and fall in line when he gets into Washington.

It really is insane that they cannot answer. It's a simple question.

He answered. Sorry you don't like the answer.

He has voted numerous times AND sponsored legislation with the far left Democrats.

But, if that makes him super conservative to you, so be it...

He did not answer. He tried to conflate "if Massie is a conservative" with "did Massie vote lockstep with the GOP" which is not a conservative party. Cheap trick and does not work

Voting and enabling liberal democrats is not conservative no matter how many times you try to hand wave it away.

It is an unforgivable sin.

these reasons aren't conservative and is an unforgivable sin according to you?

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/the-lies-about-rep-thomas-massie
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Claim 1: Massie "opposed the SAVE Act," requiring proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections.
Absurd Massie has repeatedly supported the SAVE Act, He voted YES on the SAVE Act itself on the floor multiple times, and has publicly stated his support for voter ID/proof of citizenship to vote, and urged the Senate to pass the bill.
He voted NO on a single procedural rule that bundled the bill with a provision suspending the normal 24-hour notice rules for ALL spending bills and other measures.

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Claim 2: Massie "supported transgenders in women's bathrooms."
Utterly preposterous. Massie has NEVER supported any bill to allowing biological males in women's bathrooms in schools, prisons, or federal buildings.

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Claim 3: Massie voted against funding the Department of Homeland Security.
Another smear that collapses under the briefest scrutiny.
The DHS appropriations bill included funding for the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) the Democrats' censorship machine, used by the Biden administration to suppress truthful information about COVID, and Hunter Biden's laptop, among other things.
THAT was what Massie objected to as he has publicly explained multiple times.
Maybe he should have accepted government spying and censoring of Americans in exchange for the rest of the DHS bill. (Another idea: Maybe Republicans should have stripped CISA funding from the bill.) But it's absurd to claim Massie "hates border security," because he doesn't want the government censoring speech.

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Claim 4: Massie's push to release the Epstein files proves he's "anti-Trump."
If so, then Trump is "anti-Trump," since he signed Massie's bill. The bill was also supported every member of Congress but one.

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Claim 5: He hates Israel! (Also Ukraine, Taiwan, and other countries we're lavishing with U.S. foreign aid.)
Massie votes against all foreign aid. It has nothing to do with hating other countries. Sixty-two percent of Republicans agree with him.
Maybe that's why AIPAC's super PAC, "United Democracy Project," has to use shell companies to hide its massive spending against Massie as reported by Politico. UDP spokesman Patrick Dorton calls Massie, "the most anti-Israel Republican in the House."




I don't really give a **** what his reasons were. That's inconsequential. His job is to be a reliable Republican vote on major legislation. He wasn't. He's gone.

OK then you cannot adequately explain how Massie is not conservative. Since you can't, you have shifted to "Massie did not vote lock step with the GOP". (The GOP is not a conservative party)

That isn't not the premise.
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Of course you don't. But his job primarily is to uphold the Constitution and fight for THE PEOPLE
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Keyno said:

OK then you cannot adequately explain how Massie is not conservative. Since you can't, you have shifted to "Massie did not vote lock step with the GOP". (The GOP is not a conservative party)

That isn't not the premise.

So as long as someone says they are a principled conservative, it doesn't matter how they vote and impact legislation that broadly supports the 'conservative' agenda.

Makes total cents.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Of course you don't. But his job primarily is to uphold the Constitution and fight for THE PEOPLE

Certainly represented Ro Khannas "PEOPLE" well.
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flown-the-coop said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Of course you don't. But his job primarily is to uphold the Constitution and fight for THE PEOPLE

Certainly represented Ro Khannas "PEOPLE" well.

So you were against releasing the Epstein Files. That's a little odd, but your entitlied to your opinion
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

flown-the-coop said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

Of course you don't. But his job primarily is to uphold the Constitution and fight for THE PEOPLE

Certainly represented Ro Khannas "PEOPLE" well.

So you were against releasing the Epstein Files. That's a little odd, but your entitlied to your opinion

Quite the strawman there buddy.

You know there is an Epstein thread. And I have made my position very clear on the files.

Go read my posts then you can come back and let us know how badly wrong your comment above is.
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Can I not bring up why he worked with Ro Khanna since you consistently bring him up?
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Of course you don't. But his job primarily is to uphold the Constitution and fight for THE PEOPLE


Not if he's a Republican, takes republican money, and wins a republican primary to represent the interests of said party.

If he wants to represent the people at large go be an independent.
 
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