Massie is worse than John McCain

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I assume this thread is winding down and I haven't read every post. I'm glad Massie lost after his insane downfall over the last couple of years.

I just wanted to chime in to say that McCain is the reason we still have Obamacare and it's almost impossible to be worse than that.

Thumbs down for McCain, a perfect example of how great potential can be squandered, completely destroyed, and turned into a legacy of a villain.
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MelvinUdall said:

https://news.yale.edu/2020/09/02/political-ads-have-little-persuasive-power

On my phone, otherwise I would pos excerpts of the article, but in essence Yale did a study about the persuasiveness of ads during elections. What they found was that they had little impact on how people voted. I was curious as to the effectiveness of ads given the discussion surrounding how much money was spent on this specific election…makes you wonder that if ads have minimal impact on persuading voters, why spend that much?

I think this study is geared at the right...

So that the right won't spend money on ads...

And...BINGO, the left wins...as they spend lots of money...
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There were a ton of M*******s going ape **** yesterday over this loss. He had a loyal following like Rand Paul. People think these guys are heroes because they stand against "the establishment."
I don't want you making a point as a politician. I want you to stop the left. Right now that means supporting the president and getting anything and everything you can passed while you can.
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TAMUallen said:



Says almost all you need to know.
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Gets better & better!!


I'm Gipper
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ts5641 said:

There were a ton of M*******s going ape **** yesterday over this loss. He had a loyal following like Rand Paul. People think these guys are heroes because they stand against "the establishment."
I don't want you making a point as a politician. I want you to stop the left. Right now that means supporting the president and getting anything and everything you can passed while you can.

If they just blindly support the Preisdent how will the people ever hold him or any politician accountable? How far does loyalty to Trump go? When he offers amnesty will our representatives be allowed to disagree with him? It's not like Massie was against the things Trump ran on. Trump is the one who changed not Massie.

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Exactly! You're actively fighting Democrats, or you will be replaced
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A Republican Congress has accompanied pushed next to nothing because of pieces of obstructionist left wing garbage like Massie. Judges aren't being confirmed, elections haven't been secured. and democrats haven't been held accountable. Massie did nothing but block the presidents agenda at (almost) every turn. Rather than vocally help move the country to the right, Massie has taken every opportunity to fight against Trump.

Sadly, he has months to continue to obstruct. His actions expose him. His words are meaningless.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

ts5641 said:

There were a ton of M*******s going ape **** yesterday over this loss. He had a loyal following like Rand Paul. People think these guys are heroes because they stand against "the establishment."
I don't want you making a point as a politician. I want you to stop the left. Right now that means supporting the president and getting anything and everything you can passed while you can.

If they just blindly support the Preisdent how will the people ever hold him or any politician accountable? How far does loyalty to Trump go? When he offers amnesty will our representatives be allowed to disagree with him? It's not like Massie was against the things Trump ran on. Trump is the one who changed not Massie.



Read another way, this is "why can't more of your Republicans join us enlightened libs in fighting Trump, who we know is both Hitler and a Jewish puppet, and stopping his agenda to save the America we are intent on destroying!".

Yeah, no one believes it when the libs chime in on how the Rs need to fight Trump. No thanks buddy.
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If he has any committee assignments he should be removed. To be honest, kick him out of the party. Send the complete message.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

You think Massie would've lost if this political war machine didn't come after him? I highly doubt it; he won the same district twice by a very wide margin.

But as we have seen, a good portion of voters will follow the orders they see being given out on Fox News, their favorite GOP talking heads, etc.


Two years ago I was a big Massie fan, same with Carlson.

Now I hold them in the same class as Benedict Arnold.

We probably don't have a nation without Ar old and what he did at Saratoga.

But he got offended and flipped.

That's how I see Massie.
He got obsessed with things that were 1. Wrong

And 2, not a high priority in national importance

And he got about the worse case of TDS and. Jew hatred i have seen.

Him not being able to separate issues and
Support those that Trump has strongly support for.

I would of voted him out big time!
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I'm just bewildered at the anti Massie rhetoric. All because- well the reason we are being told is he broke with Trump on some things.

What were those things? The BBB was the first big one. I'll remind everyone that bill was a disgusting monstrosity of government spending which I would assume most on this board would be against (especially if they style themselves as "fiscal conservatives").

The rest of the things have been already mentioned but all of them were situations where Trump was NOT taking an America First position. So Massie broke with him on those issues as well.

As far as his "suitability" as a Republican representative- I guess he is only suitable if you truly want the Republican Party to be America First.
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Your guy lost.

He lost pretty horribly.

He went out with one of the worst concession speeches I've ever heard.

Time for him to fade away
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Massie sided with Iran and tried to play the rigid libertarian game and failed.

He crapped in his Cheerios and he loves the taste.
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Keyno said:

I'm just bewildered at the anti Massie rhetoric. All because- well the reason we are being told is he broke with Trump on some things.

What were those things? The BBB was the first big one. I'll remind everyone that bill was a disgusting monstrosity of government spending which I would assume most on this board would be against (especially if they style themselves as "fiscal conservatives").

The rest of the things have been already mentioned but all of them were situations where Trump was NOT taking an America First position. So Massie broke with him on those issues as well.

As far as his "suitability" as a Republican representative- I guess he is only suitable if you truly want the Republican Party to be America First.


If he's not loyal to the party why should the party be loyal to him?
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Teslag said:

Keyno said:

I'm just bewildered at the anti Massie rhetoric. All because- well the reason we are being told is he broke with Trump on some things.

What were those things? The BBB was the first big one. I'll remind everyone that bill was a disgusting monstrosity of government spending which I would assume most on this board would be against (especially if they style themselves as "fiscal conservatives").

The rest of the things have been already mentioned but all of them were situations where Trump was NOT taking an America First position. So Massie broke with him on those issues as well.

As far as his "suitability" as a Republican representative- I guess he is only suitable if you truly want the Republican Party to be America First.


If he's not loyal to the party why should the party be loyal to him?

I mean that is a fair point. The GOP is obviously NOT an America First party. If Massie wants to be America First, it does follow that he will have to break with Trump on some things.
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Then he should run as an independent and stop taking GOP money.
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Teslag said:

Then he should run as an independent and stop taking GOP money.

Eh nvmd
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Wow, the bitter is strong with him.
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Starting to look like the folks in Kentucky 04 dodged a bullet by not electing Candace Owens to be their rep for the next 2 years.
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flown-the-coop said:

If he has any committee assignments he should be removed. To be honest, kick him out of the party. Send the complete message.

You understand the power given congress comes from the people right and not the party. You only want that district to have a voice when it belongs to someone bought by aipac and Jewish donors. I think that's the whole problem and this is a great example. Massie was elected by the people and he gets a certain amount of power within our government system. Some Americans like you would rather powerful outsiders tell us what to do and others like me want someone not paid for by a foreign government making decisions for me.
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His racism is showing.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

His racism is showing.

Mental break.

But it happens to the best of them. Trump undoubtedly suffered a mental break after the 2020 election. Even as one of the leaders of his official fan club and weekly worship hour I can admit Trump was spinning out in those days.

He may not have been wrong but his frustration about things he could no longer control got the best of him.

Massie is not just mad he lost his race, he is mad he lost control of the image he was trying to make for himself. That's the real crushing blow to Massie, he went from hero to less than zero on epic fashion.

Back to abusing women for him I guess.
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So…Cruz came out against the Iran deal and is bashing Trump over the anti weaponization slush fund. Are going to see Trump turn on ol Teddy? I mean Teddy still came hat in hand after trump called his wife ugly, so we know he'll put up with a lot.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

If he has any committee assignments he should be removed. To be honest, kick him out of the party. Send the complete message.

You understand the power given congress comes from the people right and not the party. You only want that district to have a voice when it belongs to someone bought by aipac and Jewish donors. I think that's the whole problem and this is a great example. Massie was elected by the people and he gets a certain amount of power within our government system. Some Americans like you would rather powerful outsiders tell us what to do and others like me want someone not paid for by a foreign government making decisions for me.


And this was a primary for a political party to represent said party. He didn't do what the party wanted and wasn't reliable so they elected someone that would be.

If Massie wants to represent the people at large then run as an independent.
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Preach.

If you do not want to show party loyalty then do not belong to a party. This is not a hard concept.

The Dems tolerating extremist is taking their party down a destructive path. Not unlike the abortion absoluters, uncompromising fiscal hawks and Trump antagonist have done to harm and fracture the R agenda.
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Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.
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flown-the-coop said:

Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.
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Disloyalty is not a trait I or many in MAGA admire.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.

Massie is not a conservative at this point. Whether he was at one time is irrelevant.

Thune isn't up for reelection so what do you recommend be done to him? Want to get rid of Johnson or Graham, find someone to run against them, and in SC, don't have 3-5 candidates because that is how Graham always wins the primary.

As for Johnson, he's in a ****ty position due to the tiny majority and having to deal with people like people like Massie who constantly side with the Democrats so no one else would be doing any better.
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Massie isn't an actual conservative. Open your eyes.

He's showing you who his allies have always been right now.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.

They don't care for conservative policy. They just want their team to win even if that team is just holding the line while in the majority rather than making gains. It's party over policy and they are cheering while we head over the cliff.
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I want America to win. That's my team. And Trump and his supporters are the way, Massie is not and has never been.

You may need to finally figure out if you are Team Tea Party or Team America. Cause right now, they are not the same.

HTH.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

Massie on MTP this morning. Welker stroking him like the Dem lap dog he is now.

Massie blames his loss on boomers being duped by AI ads and then "broadening the base with uninformed, low information voters). So the man of his people insulted the one who didn't vote for hims as low information, dumb, unengaged and easily duped voters.

Thinks he is a champion of exposing all the things wrong in congress. Back in Epstein and banging on Blanche. Says he knows they did t release thing but he has NEVER put up the receipts. What a chump. For a man who says he is not like the rest of them, but then acts just like the rest of them with such shenanigans.

Not ruling out a 2028 POTUS run. Dude has lost his mind.

Says he will spend 7 months causing problems. So he may need another encouragement or two move on.

Massie is team Massie and that is not team USA. Be gone you feckless dolt.

I don't understand piling on an actual conservative instead of going after Thune, Johnson, or Graham. MAGA has lost its mind.

Because Massie is hurting the 80% conservative movement to the benefit of the -20% liberal/woke movement.

Might be to that...

The time to be 100% on principle is when you're debating and arguing on the bills. That's how you work to shape legislation. But, holding up 80% legislation which helps out the opposing party, is NOT the way to do it. Neither is voting against bills once they've gotten out to the full legislature.

Being an ideologue is great in theory, but it hurts in practice.
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