Why do we need another year ?

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Didn't have the resume to begin with, only got the job because of the situation.

He failed the two year interview, time to move on,
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We don't have money. Can't even remodel the stadium and we want to pay for a new coach.

Aggie Baseball is gonna be stuck for a while until we can free up some funds.
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

We've only hosted 14 times in our history, and he achieved one of the 14.


We've hosted 14 times out of 27 years. About half. We would've been at 15 but he missed last year.

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MaxPower said:

trouble said:

So who do you suggest? Will you be contributing to the buy out fund?
He got a job he didn't deserve. If the buyout is more than $5 then the AD should be fired.


Why does he even have a buyout …. It should be minimal for a unproven coach that was lucky to get the opportunity. Criminal
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Angry Beaver said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

We've only hosted 14 times in our history, and he achieved one of the 14.


We've hosted 14 times out of 27 years. About half. We would've been at 15 but he missed last year.




Is that counting the 2020 canceled season?
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I don't know, but at that rate, the argument is made that it's EXPECTED we make a regional.
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I'm of the mindset that the past should not be our default expectations.....we should absolutely never miss a regional and still have a returning head coach

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Killzone3abc said:

trouble said:

So who do you suggest? Will you be contributing to the buy out fund?

I'd donate 4 figures asap if we pulled the trigger. I know that's not much, but it's something.

I also wish we would make the change, but I'm not donating a dime whether we do or don't. I don't waste money on college athletics. It's a money pit with 0 tangible return on investment. How so many smart people, who have done well enough to amass a nice amount of money, choose to waste it on college athletics is beyond me. Just a **** measuring contest I guess (for most, not all I'm sure).
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Angry Beaver said:

I don't know, but at that rate, the argument is made that it's EXPECTED we make a regional.

Not MAKE, HOST. And yes, that should be the expectation. It won't happen every year but I see no reason that shouldn't be the expectation. It essentially means that you're in roughly the top half of the conference.
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TMF said:

trouble said:

So who do you suggest? Will you be contributing to the buy out fund?


I guess you can't comment on the message boards unless you are paying the salaries. Got it.
You can't make demands unless you fund them. If you want something you don't have d you suggest robbing your neighbor to get it???
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Tell that to LSU, knucklehead

edit: Also, ANY AD that fires a coach that went 41-16 (.719 winning percentage) in his second year WILL NOT get any coach worth his salt to sign on.

Some of yall need to learn how to deal with your emotions better.
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SUGGESTION FOR STAFF:

Make a FIRE XXXXXX Board to keep all the Riff-raff out of legitimate discussions!!!
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We don't have any spare change laying around.
Plus, he deserves a third year.
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We lost 2 games to a USC team that did not win a series this year against a good team, other than Poly. That was in February. Neither Iowa nor Purdue, 2 teams they swept at home, made the tournament even though they both had >.500 records. Everyone else had a .500 or (mostly) sub .500. SC was also below water on the road. Although the regional itself was neutral, the games against us should be viewed as road ones.

The mid-week California games that are played by teams like SC and UCLA against previous baseball powers like Fullerton, LBS, Irvine, etc. are no more -- at least in terms of competitiveness. ALL of those teams ended up with losing records this year. Only Poly San Diego St. and UCSB had winning records. So did Oregon St, but USC got trashed by them.

Hosting a regional and winning 2 games against teams that will only win 1 game, at most, at any given regional is NOT something to hang a season on. Plus, you can't have it both ways: IF we truly were the 2nd or 3rd SEC team, a SR is a necessity. Otherwise, that was an illusion and not indicative of true team strength. We had a very winnable regional this year and blew it off. Losing next week at UNC would have been one thing, but no excuses for this one.
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cords12 said:

Top 3 of our order was amongst the best in the country and they are all going to get drafted. Can anyone really see us being better next year after a lackluster postseason this season?

I expect Partida and Wilson to keep growing, just like Gavin and Caden did.
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91AggieLawyer said:

We lost 2 games to a USC team that did not win a series this year against a good team, other than Poly. That was in February. Neither Iowa nor Purdue, 2 teams they swept at home, made the tournament even though they both had >.500 records. Everyone else had a .500 or (mostly) sub .500. SC was also below water on the road. Although the regional itself was neutral, the games against us should be viewed as road ones.

The mid-week California games that are played by teams like SC and UCLA against previous baseball powers like Fullerton, LBS, Irvine, etc. are no more -- at least in terms of competitiveness. ALL of those teams ended up with losing records this year. Only Poly San Diego St. and UCSB had winning records. So did Oregon St, but USC got trashed by them.

Hosting a regional and winning 2 games against teams that will only win 1 game, at most, at any given regional is NOT something to hang a season on. Plus, you can't have it both ways: IF we truly were the 2nd or 3rd SEC team, a SR is a necessity. Otherwise, that was an illusion and not indicative of true team strength. We had a very winnable regional this year and blew it off. Losing next week at UNC would have been one thing, but no excuses for this one.


Tell that to UCLA and GT who won their conferences

It is baseball

It happens and while we had holes to fix some does everyone. Barely half of the number one seeds advanced and some had to battle hard to get out
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TulaneAg said:

  • We should have had the flexibility last year and right now to improve the program if there's an opportunity to improve...except our AD gave a stop gap coach the contract of a 12 year veteran with solid skins on the wall. I don't fault Earley for asking for it and/or taking it, but Trev handing over that contract to Earley in that position was malpractice. It should be investigated for collusion or fraud it is so unexplainable.
  • It's now obvious that O'Connor WAS available and we didn't or couldn't get it done...again, Trev should be called to the carpet.
  • The only reason this season looked decent was because expectations were SO low after last season's absolute disaster. If you predicted this result 2 years ago with a Sorrell/Grahovac/Sdao/Moss led team, everyone would've told you they would be severely disappointed in that outcome. Yet here we are.
  • I'll disagree with most on this point though: I think a Nico, Kellner, Jorian, etc. led freshman group is a really good base from which to build a really good team over the next 2 seasons. But you gotta keep them, you have to improve them, and you absolutely MUST find a complimentary pitching staff.


I don't understand why Trev would get called to the carpet when O'Connor picked MSU. Have you seen State's facilities? Any facility on the ground beats one not yet built (we had nothing in 2025 and their stadium is twice the size of ours). They also fund baseball at a high rate. Their football program isn't good and it's easy to divert the funds to programs that can succeed.

I do agree that the freshman class of Nico, Kellner, and Jorian is a great foundation to build on. We are expecting more Nico type impact players in the class coming in July.
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Sean98 said:

Killzone3abc said:

trouble said:

So who do you suggest? Will you be contributing to the buy out fund?

I'd donate 4 figures asap if we pulled the trigger. I know that's not much, but it's something.

I also wish we would make the change, but I'm not donating a dime whether we do or don't. I don't waste money on college athletics. It's a money pit with 0 tangible return on investment. How so many smart people, who have done well enough to amass a nice amount of money, choose to waste it on college athletics is beyond me. Just a **** measuring contest I guess (for most, not all I'm sure).


My guess is it's an easy way to get a massive tax write-off that allows them to flex without having to choose a charity that might alienate key associates.

It's a win-win from their perspective because donations are never viewed as a potential financial ROI, but rather as a PR ROI. Sports is an easy bet especially in the South -- LOTS of clout to be gained without the double-edged sword of charitable causes.
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Wicked Good Ag said:

91AggieLawyer said:

We lost 2 games to a USC team that did not win a series this year against a good team, other than Poly. That was in February. Neither Iowa nor Purdue, 2 teams they swept at home, made the tournament even though they both had >.500 records. Everyone else had a .500 or (mostly) sub .500. SC was also below water on the road. Although the regional itself was neutral, the games against us should be viewed as road ones.

The mid-week California games that are played by teams like SC and UCLA against previous baseball powers like Fullerton, LBS, Irvine, etc. are no more -- at least in terms of competitiveness. ALL of those teams ended up with losing records this year. Only Poly San Diego St. and UCSB had winning records. So did Oregon St, but USC got trashed by them.

Hosting a regional and winning 2 games against teams that will only win 1 game, at most, at any given regional is NOT something to hang a season on. Plus, you can't have it both ways: IF we truly were the 2nd or 3rd SEC team, a SR is a necessity. Otherwise, that was an illusion and not indicative of true team strength. We had a very winnable regional this year and blew it off. Losing next week at UNC would have been one thing, but no excuses for this one.


Tell that to UCLA and GT who won their conferences

It is baseball

It happens and while we had holes to fix some does everyone. Barely half of the number one seeds advanced and some had to battle hard to get out

A little different though. In hindsight, USC was better than A&M, at least as of now. That was no fluke.
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RogerTheShrubber said:

Tell that to LSU, knucklehead

edit: Also, ANY AD that fires a coach that went 41-16 (.719 winning percentage) in his second year WILL NOT get any coach worth his salt to sign on.

Some of yall need to learn how to deal with your emotions better.


Ahh, the old "emotional" jab....
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Wicked Good Ag said:

91AggieLawyer said:

We lost 2 games to a USC team that did not win a series this year against a good team, other than Poly. That was in February. Neither Iowa nor Purdue, 2 teams they swept at home, made the tournament even though they both had >.500 records. Everyone else had a .500 or (mostly) sub .500. SC was also below water on the road. Although the regional itself was neutral, the games against us should be viewed as road ones.

The mid-week California games that are played by teams like SC and UCLA against previous baseball powers like Fullerton, LBS, Irvine, etc. are no more -- at least in terms of competitiveness. ALL of those teams ended up with losing records this year. Only Poly San Diego St. and UCSB had winning records. So did Oregon St, but USC got trashed by them.

Hosting a regional and winning 2 games against teams that will only win 1 game, at most, at any given regional is NOT something to hang a season on. Plus, you can't have it both ways: IF we truly were the 2nd or 3rd SEC team, a SR is a necessity. Otherwise, that was an illusion and not indicative of true team strength. We had a very winnable regional this year and blew it off. Losing next week at UNC would have been one thing, but no excuses for this one.


Tell that to UCLA and GT who won their conferences

It is baseball

It happens and while we had holes to fix some does everyone. Barely half of the number one seeds advanced and some had to battle hard to get out


I didn't watch all the games, but I must've missed where both those teams were blown out and embarrassed during their losses, and completely uncompetitive pretty much the entire 18 innings of those games. But yes, since they clearly were, it's literally the same scenario.
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We are poor.
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Complete coaching staff turn over in under two years on the job. Never a good sign.

Two seasons in a rows where the final month went south. Could not finish. Bad trend.
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We can give Earley Year 3, or Year 4 or Year 5, but, IMO, we got ourselves a dead man walking no matter when the loyalists wake up to that fact. I agree he is not getting fired this year. And in isolation, this year was fairly successful (regional host, top 15 team most of the year, beat your rival). But you can't view it in isolation. In the two years since we had a team playing in the championship final, we have exactly two postseason wins - against Lamar and Texas State. It's fairly obvious Earley is being given a 3rd year. Alberts probably promised him three years when he hired him. It was too risky of a hire for Earley if we didn't. So Mike has a stay of execution of 12 months. He can go out and shock the world in recruiting, coaching hires and performance on the field (regular and post season) or he should be (and I think will be) gone this time next year.

I was not a fan of the hire to begin with, certainly wanted him fired last year, and was begging for him to be fired early season this year for this very reason. That we would be just good enough to placate the loyalists and get another year with a greatly depleted squad and when the book is out on Mike in the market. Good news is, we will see how much Mike is able to grow and grab success (if he can) with a few big hires and what he is able to pull together in the portal. I'm also interested to see how much the big cigars are willing to invest in portal players for Mike. As of right now, Mike is a noticably less successful version of Larry Coker. We all know how that turned out.

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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

We were picked damn near last in the SEC and finished 3rd, which is one of our higher finishes since joining the conference. We've only hosted 14 times in our history, and he achieved one of the 14. We were preseason 25 in D1Baseball and finished top 10 before postseason began. And with all the tu obsession on this board (unprovoked or otherwise), he swept those idiots. I hate the way the season ended but to pretend this season was a disaster is comical. We had a bunch of unfortunate things happen to our pitching staff that led to a tough year on the mound. Not Earley's fault that one transfer backed out, the Baylor fella getting hurt, Stewart getting hurt, Sdao not recovering how everyone thought, Sims getting hurt. Let's see how the offseason pans out, with portal additions and possible coaching carousel, before everyone flies off the handle. Jesus.


11 of those times have occurred since 1999 when the NCAA expanded the number of hosts from 8 to 16. It happens just over 42% of the time for A&M coaches of this era, and for just under half of the SEC teams this year.

It's a good result, but not as rarified as implied these days.

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Yeah, he hates so bad it is one of sports getting revenue sharing money. He must hate volleyball and softball too.
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I think it was a very good year. Yes, it was very frustrating how USC outscored us in games 6 and 7 by a combined score of 21-4 to get ousted from our own regional just 15 days after the softball team suffered the exact same fate at home, but 6 other teams Regional hosts got ousted too: No. 1 UCLA, No. 2 Georgia Tech, No. 8 Florida, and No. 9 Southern Miss, No. 10 Florida State, and No. 13 Nebraska.

We exceeded expectations by finishing with a 41-16 overall and 18-11 in SEC play for 3rd in the SEC and hosting a regional a year after finishing 30-26 overall and 11-18 in SEC play for 14th in the SEC and missing the tournament. I think we should give him two more years to reach the Super Regional because firing a coach with that kind of turnaround in his second year will not get a great coach to come here, much less stay for the long haul.
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Earley got a dream job in an improbable scenario and has shown he wasn't ready then and still isn't. Whether or not the AD cares is the bigger question. Earley will not win big at A&M this evolution. Maybe if he comes back way down the road it will be different. But the fact is clear that he's not up to this level as a HC. You same old sad group of sunshine pumpers can keep your head in the sand probably where it belongs. But cheerleading won't fix this.
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Early's penalty for not getting out of a regional he hosted will be no contract extension. Had we won our regional, I think he would have got a couple of years tacked on. As it is now, he has only two years left.
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AgRyan04 said:

RogerTheShrubber said:

Tell that to LSU, knucklehead

edit: Also, ANY AD that fires a coach that went 41-16 (.719 winning percentage) in his second year WILL NOT get any coach worth his salt to sign on.

Some of yall need to learn how to deal with your emotions better.


Ahh, the old "emotional" jab....

He ain't wrong.
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

Wicked Good Ag said:

91AggieLawyer said:

We lost 2 games to a USC team that did not win a series this year against a good team, other than Poly. That was in February. Neither Iowa nor Purdue, 2 teams they swept at home, made the tournament even though they both had >.500 records. Everyone else had a .500 or (mostly) sub .500. SC was also below water on the road. Although the regional itself was neutral, the games against us should be viewed as road ones.

The mid-week California games that are played by teams like SC and UCLA against previous baseball powers like Fullerton, LBS, Irvine, etc. are no more -- at least in terms of competitiveness. ALL of those teams ended up with losing records this year. Only Poly San Diego St. and UCSB had winning records. So did Oregon St, but USC got trashed by them.

Hosting a regional and winning 2 games against teams that will only win 1 game, at most, at any given regional is NOT something to hang a season on. Plus, you can't have it both ways: IF we truly were the 2nd or 3rd SEC team, a SR is a necessity. Otherwise, that was an illusion and not indicative of true team strength. We had a very winnable regional this year and blew it off. Losing next week at UNC would have been one thing, but no excuses for this one.


Tell that to UCLA and GT who won their conferences

It is baseball

It happens and while we had holes to fix some does everyone. Barely half of the number one seeds advanced and some had to battle hard to get out


I didn't watch all the games, but I must've missed where both those teams were blown out and embarrassed during their losses, and completely uncompetitive pretty much the entire 18 innings of those games. But yes, since they clearly were, it's literally the same scenario.

you think THIS BOARD would care if we lost back to back games by one run or five or more?


we are self loathing as a collective group and some people's lives are affected by sports teams (pro or college)
i was in 1989...i was 19 not in my 40-50s like many on here
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What's done is done. Now, just hope Trev Albert's doesn't up and extend Earley to get baseball off his plate, so he can return to football.
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TAMU1990 said:

TulaneAg said:

  • We should have had the flexibility last year and right now to improve the program if there's an opportunity to improve...except our AD gave a stop gap coach the contract of a 12 year veteran with solid skins on the wall. I don't fault Earley for asking for it and/or taking it, but Trev handing over that contract to Earley in that position was malpractice. It should be investigated for collusion or fraud it is so unexplainable.
  • It's now obvious that O'Connor WAS available and we didn't or couldn't get it done...again, Trev should be called to the carpet.
  • The only reason this season looked decent was because expectations were SO low after last season's absolute disaster. If you predicted this result 2 years ago with a Sorrell/Grahovac/Sdao/Moss led team, everyone would've told you they would be severely disappointed in that outcome. Yet here we are.
  • I'll disagree with most on this point though: I think a Nico, Kellner, Jorian, etc. led freshman group is a really good base from which to build a really good team over the next 2 seasons. But you gotta keep them, you have to improve them, and you absolutely MUST find a complimentary pitching staff.


I don't understand why Trev would get called to the carpet when O'Connor picked MSU. Have you seen State's facilities? Any facility on the ground beats one not yet built (we had nothing in 2025 and their stadium is twice the size of ours). They also fund baseball at a high rate. Their football program isn't good and it's easy to divert the funds to programs that can succeed.

I do agree that the freshman class of Nico, Kellner, and Jorian is a great foundation to build on. We are expecting more Nico type impact players in the class coming in July.


We made a run at O'Connor the year prior... as soon as Schloss drug up. The year before he landed at MSU last year. We went after him before settling on Earley.
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Coryhub said:

We were #1 preseason team and didn't make the tourney. We were hosting regional and couldn't make it to supers.
2 years in a row we haven't made a super regional and this was not supposed to be a rebuild after Schloss left. We did this to try and win quickly and we didn't.
Experiment failed why would we expect next year to be any different ? What did Earley do to prove he deserves to be a big time P4 coach at a school that was in CWS 2 yrs ago..
Admit it was a gamble to hire HC with no HC experience to keep the roster in order and not be decimated. Now we didn't produce in 2 yrs so let's get a real HC that has resume that deserves to be hired.

So you want to fire Earley right now?
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Whatever happens, less and except a last place conference finish, TA is not going to fire Earley. He doesn't care about any sport but football.

You can call him a genius for hiring Bucky in basketball, but he just needed a cheap solution to fill the spot.

Baseball is the same thing. He didn't want to keep Schloss. Earley was a cheap fix. He will just allow Earley's contract to expire if he isn't having a sustained level of success to keep the alumni off his back. He will then hire another unknown to fill his spot. Rinse and Repeat.
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