US Changes Green Card Rules - Go Back Home First

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No Spin Ag
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FYI: This made the front page of The Times, so this is definitely going to be getting more attention now that the news is spreading.
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BillYeoman
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No Spin Ag said:

FYI: This made the front page of The Times, so this is definitely going to be getting more attention now that the news is spreading.


Yep. Stupidest policy decision. Almost as stupid as that Fraud Kristi Noem when she ended TPS. Yet nobody investigating her $220 million ad dollars.

I know the Woke Right and Git'em Out crowd celebrate this decision by Trump…..but this is stupid and affects American Citizens. Oh, and get Stephen Miller out and primary Brandon "I married an Indian " Gill
infinity ag
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Sara is thrilled.

Exposing Hypocrisy - one CEO at a time
BharatAg
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infinity ag said:

Sara is thrilled.




Get a job, BombayAg.
Thunderstruck xx
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Do y'all smell that?

The air just got orders of magnitude fresher.
The Unforgiven
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why do you favor non-Americans over Americans? Why do you hate your fellow Americans? Have you adopted an illegal family yet and use your money to fund their living.

This is what we voted for. None of these non-citizens would die for America. They just want our money so they can send it back to their family in a 3rd world hellhole.
Teslag
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BillYeoman said:

No Spin Ag said:

FYI: This made the front page of The Times, so this is definitely going to be getting more attention now that the news is spreading.


Yep. Stupidest policy decision. Almost as stupid as that Fraud Kristi Noem when she ended TPS. Yet nobody investigating her $220 million ad dollars.

I know the Woke Right and Git'em Out crowd celebrate this decision by Trump…..but this is stupid and affects American Citizens. Oh, and get Stephen Miller out and primary Brandon "I married an Indian " Gill


Who gives a ***** Kick them all out.
ts5641
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Good. We need to stop the Indian invasion.
ts5641
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The Unforgiven said:

why do you favor non-Americans over Americans? Why do you hate your fellow Americans? Have you adopted an illegal family yet and use your money to fund their living.

This is what we voted for. None of these non-citizens would die for America. They just want our money so they can send it back to their family in a 3rd world hellhole.

This is the way the left has been conditioned to think.
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infinity ag said:

Andrew Ng is a famous respected AI expert but he is woke as well.
It's funny how little these people care about American families. Everyone seems to worry about Ramesh and Rajesh




Oh wont somebody think of the AI!
TexasAggie73
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Wonder what the First Lady thinks of this? Would she have gone back to her native country and never returned?
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infinity ag said:

doubledog said:

Good now do this for H1B extensions. You should not be here more than 3 years on an H1B.

What I want:

1. 12 month phase out of H1B. Companies have to hire locally and train as needed.
2. Stop greencard processing for H1B. No, you cannot be a US citizen.
3. If an H1B loses their job, they get 2 weeks to GTFO. Not 60 days. No severance. Anything given will be taxed 200% and company fined. No transferring of status to B1/B2 and then back to H1B by the scammers.
4. Create a NEW law for really smart geniuses, not basement bargain dumpster trash.

We want Indians like this guy. 1299 patents in tech. I have not verified but I am sure it is somewhere high.




Yeah that guy can stay if he wants assuming his stats are legit. The other 99% of Indians who are only good at scams and nepotism need to get out.
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infinity ag said:

doubledog said:

Good now do this for H1B extensions. You should not be here more than 3 years on an H1B.

What I want:

1. 12 month phase out of H1B. Companies have to hire locally and train as needed.
2. Stop greencard processing for H1B. No, you cannot be a US citizen.
3. If an H1B loses their job, they get 2 weeks to GTFO. Not 60 days. No severance. Anything given will be taxed 200% and company fined. No transferring of status to B1/B2 and then back to H1B by the scammers.
4. Create a NEW law for really smart geniuses, not basement bargain dumpster trash.

We want Indians like this guy. 1299 patents in tech. I have not verified but I am sure it is somewhere high.




Patent counts are meaningless. The titanium nitride deposition technology, though, was world changing.
Ag with kids
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BillYeoman said:

Another idiot move against American Citizens, their spouses and children. People who did it the right way. Legally.

The Right Woke is getting really stupid.









What American Citizens?
You can turn off signatures, btw
Teslag
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TexasAggie73 said:

Wonder what the First Lady thinks of this? Would she have gone back to her native country and never returned?


Yes. She does things the right way and follows the law.
BillYeoman
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Ag with kids said:

BillYeoman said:

Another idiot move against American Citizens, their spouses and children. People who did it the right way. Legally.

The Right Woke is getting really stupid.









What American Citizens?


American Citizens who sponsored a spouse. Or American Citizens who have friendships with people who are doing it the LEGAL way.

Congress needs to do immigration reform. The Git Them Out crowd needs to be sidelined
Ozzy Osbourne
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What about my American friends who have to compete against overwhelming numbers of foreigners for highly desirable jobs? What about those friends and spouses?
flown-the-coop
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Ozzy Osbourne said:

What about my American friends who have to compete against overwhelming numbers of foreigners for highly desirable jobs? What about those friends and spouses?

They should observe the Indians and take up their work ethic and accept less pay. It's a free market, you have to compete like any others.

Handing people higher pay for less work is not an ideal of a capitalist society.
BillYeoman
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Ozzy Osbourne said:

What about my American friends who have to compete against overwhelming numbers of foreigners for highly desirable jobs? What about those friends and spouses?


Jobs like 1st Lady?

Or how about American students…..Trump gave preferential treatment to Chinese Communist Party students…..you know…as a bargaining chip with Dictator Xi.
Ag with kids
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BillYeoman said:

Ag with kids said:

BillYeoman said:

Another idiot move against American Citizens, their spouses and children. People who did it the right way. Legally.

The Right Woke is getting really stupid.









What American Citizens?


American Citizens who sponsored a spouse. Or American Citizens who have friendships with people who are doing it the LEGAL way.

Congress needs to do immigration reform. The Git Them Out crowd needs to be sidelined

We know your idea of "immigration reform". Amnesty for all!!!
You can turn off signatures, btw
Ag with kids
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BillYeoman said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

What about my American friends who have to compete against overwhelming numbers of foreigners for highly desirable jobs? What about those friends and spouses?


Jobs like 1st Lady?

Or how about American students…..Trump gave preferential treatment to Chinese Communist Party students…..you know…as a bargaining chip with Dictator Xi.

You can turn off signatures, btw
doubledog
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The H-1B program was created by the Immigration Act of 1990. It allows U.S. employers to hire foreign workers on a temporary basis in jobs that require highly specialized knowledge and at least a bachelor's degree, or its equivalent, in a related specialty


In academics the H-1B program is very important to science, to employ non-citizens as post doctoral associates (research). Post docs are employed for two to three years anything more than three years is not acceptable. When I was a post doc I was informed that my project would end in two years, after that I was expected to move on to academic position or industry, it was best for the post doc. There should never be a forever post doc anywhere.

Emotional Support Cobra
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Post docs are more commonly hired as J-1 visa holders or on OPT from their F-1 student visa. At least these days. Then if they get hired as a scientist or Professor they apply for H-1B since they are no longer a student.

H-1 B by definition is for a "uniquely qualified" individual to fill a specific role and there is a statement somewhere that it is not meant for those seeking citizenship (ha). Then they always seem to extend the H-1B and then apply for green card.
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Teslag said:

BillYeoman said:

No Spin Ag said:

FYI: This made the front page of The Times, so this is definitely going to be getting more attention now that the news is spreading.


Yep. Stupidest policy decision. Almost as stupid as that Fraud Kristi Noem when she ended TPS. Yet nobody investigating her $220 million ad dollars.

I know the Woke Right and Git'em Out crowd celebrate this decision by Trump…..but this is stupid and affects American Citizens. Oh, and get Stephen Miller out and primary Brandon "I married an Indian " Gill


Who gives a ***** Kick them all out.


This affects US citizens marrying non US citizens.
I really don't care about the others. But we should make an exception for US born Americans.
Or we need to put them in the front of the queue. Processing can take 2-3 years.
We shouldn't let rules made for legal immigrants screw US citizens.

Ozzy Osbourne
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Maybe the country should be for its citizens. Idgaf about the "free market," I care about Americans.
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deddog said:

Teslag said:

BillYeoman said:

No Spin Ag said:

FYI: This made the front page of The Times, so this is definitely going to be getting more attention now that the news is spreading.


Yep. Stupidest policy decision. Almost as stupid as that Fraud Kristi Noem when she ended TPS. Yet nobody investigating her $220 million ad dollars.

I know the Woke Right and Git'em Out crowd celebrate this decision by Trump…..but this is stupid and affects American Citizens. Oh, and get Stephen Miller out and primary Brandon "I married an Indian " Gill


Who gives a ***** Kick them all out.


This affects US citizens marrying non US citizens.
I really don't care about the others. But we should make an exception for US born Americans.
Or we need to put them in the front of the queue. Processing can take 2-3 years.
We shouldn't let rules made for legal immigrants screw US citizens.



That's the problem and it does screw US citizens and their children with the green card spouse.
akm91
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That's the problem and it does screw US citizens and their children with the green card spouse.

Don't think that is correct. If you have a green card already, you're not affected.
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It's harder to get into Blinn than it is to get into the US.

Good Trump.

Hubert J. Farnsworth
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BillYeoman said:

Ag with kids said:

BillYeoman said:

Another idiot move against American Citizens, their spouses and children. People who did it the right way. Legally.

The Right Woke is getting really stupid.









What American Citizens?


American Citizens who sponsored a spouse. Or American Citizens who have friendships with people who are doing it the LEGAL way.

Congress needs to do immigration reform. The Git Them Out crowd needs to be sidelined


Please tell us what immigration reform entails. And no, amnesty should never be an option.
flown-the-coop
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I would caveat that any answer they provide needs to first consider whether there is an existing law that simply needs to be enforced.

Cause we actually have a lot of laws, many quite good & effective… when enforced. Temp visas, guest worker programs, etc etc.

The battle that needs fighting in Congress and in the judiciary is a complete slap down of sanctuary states, cities and related policies. Borders and immigration are clearly the purview of the federal gubmit.

That is step one before any discussion should be had on changing immigration laws.
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Emotional Support Cobra said:

Post docs are more commonly hired as J-1 visa holders or on OPT from their F-1 student visa. At least these days. Then if they get hired as a scientist or Professor they apply for H-1B since they are no longer a student.

H-1 B by definition is for a "uniquely qualified" individual to fill a specific role and there is a statement somewhere that it is not meant for those seeking citizenship (ha). Then they always seem to extend the H-1B and then apply for green card.

F-1 is for students who are chasing a degree.
Foreign scientists are uniquely qualified to take specific roles in a research project and are candidates for H1Bs.
J-1 are much more general and not intended for STEM studies.

The Unforgiven
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Show me in the constitution where it says all non-citizens have a right to be in the US? If you are a non-citizen here legally or illegally, at anytime we can tell you to get out because you don't have a right to be here.

And don't cry about breaking up families. There have been millions of US kids that have had to grow up or live outside of the US because their parents' jobs have taken them to live over seas. Sometime the whole family goes, sometimes just one parent goes and the other parent and kids stay in the US.

We all make decisions in our lives, and you have to live with those benefits and consequences that arise from those decisions. As a non-citizen in this country, you should never make decisions on thinking you are going to be here for the rest of your life. That is just asking to get burnt if you think you deserve to live the rest of your life here.
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BillYeoman said:

People who did it the right way. Legally.

The Right Woke is getting really stupid.











You sound like somebody that believes in squatters rights. Yeah it's legal but you know darn well what it's being used for.

Sure it's legal, but most likely a company is avoiding hiring Americans at a normal wage.

Most likely they get to have FHA loan on a house that an American can't get.

Because of their lower wages, it's highly possible that they get government benefits that they have never paid into.

They get to drive on paved roads and infrastructure that generations of Americans have paid for.

They get to send their kids to new safe schools in Prosper or Plano that taxpayers living there for decades have paid for and built.

Everything above is not entirely true for every single immigrant of course. Tons of great ones that are nothing but positive and there are tons of Americans that are a drain on the system.

I work in technology and they have mass layoffs all the time and replace them with Indians. I can assure you that they are not better than their American counterparts and customers absolutely hate that it becomes harder to understand and eventually it will get escalated to an English first language person. Most of them moved to Plano and have been there for 10 years or less.

So now a tech guy in DFW can't get the same job or afford a house in the town he grew up in and somebody that has been there 15 minutes can immediately get government benefits and put nothing down on a house and their children get show up in the newest coolest Prosper ISD HS and be top of class over a person who has lived and paid taxes for 40 years but can't afford to be there anymore.

When people talk about robbing our youth, these are those sort of things.
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Well, it's a good way to get many of them not to come back. Those that want to come back can go through the hoops

Immigrants some legal, and most illegal have been abusing the system for years. This is just trying to even it out.

Now I have no problem with legal immigrants or even those that are over here on visa's but you still have to follow the rules.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
Teslag
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I'd actually like to see us take back every permanent green card and have all of them go home and reapply. Show us you still bring something to this country.

We need a hard reset.
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