Don't look now but libs are about to be huge 2nd amendment

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agracer
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Old McDonald said:

time to scrap the second amendment altogether. we endure mass shooting after mass shooting, year after year, because people claim it's necessary to protect us from government tyranny. now those same people are siding with government tyranny. throw it out.



Outta my cold, dead hands; Commie.

Why does everyone respond to the obvious troll? And HTF did the troll get 27 stars?
Teslag
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?


Jesus wouldn't even celebrate a child molester being killed. So it's an irrelevant comment.
JWinTX
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agracer said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Old McDonald said:

time to scrap the second amendment altogether. we endure mass shooting after mass shooting, year after year, because people claim it's necessary to protect us from government tyranny. now those same people are siding with government tyranny. throw it out.



Outta my cold, dead hands; Commie.

Why does everyone respond to the obvious troll? And HTF did the troll get 27 stars?


She's a completely unhinged poster. Probably an AWFL. She has no interest in debate.
25Lighters
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents



It's not that he had a firearm at a "protest", it's not that he had multiple magazines, those details aren't the issue. The issue is, he was not there to peacefully "protest", we see that objectively in his actions in the videos. He obstructed, interfered with, and fought with Federal agents.

The details about the firearm and magazines are details that support the objective fact, he was there to break the law by interfering with Federal agents doing their job, he was armed while committing crimes, and while committing crimes of obstructing and fighting with Federal agents he had the forethought to make himself capable of committing grave bodily harm and possible death to Federal agents, and others, while committing crimes.

The 2A does not include being armed while committing crimes, nor do 2A advocates defend being armed while committing crimes. The first mistake by the man was when he made the choice to commit crimes rather than remain at a safe distance and ONLY peacefully protest. Had he chosen to only peacefully protest he would still be alive, being armed and the quantity of magazines is secondary and irrelevant.
CanyonAg77
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Quote:

. Had he chosen to only peacefully protest he would still be alive, b

Ever hear the "Swiss Cheese" theory? Often used in aircraft accident discussion, it refers to how a series of events come together to cause an accident, when "all the holes in the Swiss cheese line up". Remove one of the slices from the stack of Swiss cheese, or turn it a different direction, the holes no longer line up, and the accident is averted.

Let's stack up the Swiss cheese.

  • Biden opens the border
  • MN declares itself a sanctuary state
  • Trump enforces the law, with agents acting in accordance with the law
  • Deranged leftists lie and distort the mission of ICE
  • Media and social media echo chambers reinforce lies
  • Pretti chooses to believe propaganda
  • Pretti decides to interfere with ICE
  • Pretti obtains handgun
  • Pretti leaves house with handgun
  • Pretti seeks out ICE, finds ICE arresting an illegal with domestic violence charges
  • Pretti interferes with ICE
  • Pretti does not back down when ICE responds
  • Pretti fights when being arrested
  • Gun appears, people react
  • Accident
Aggie4Christ09
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25Lighters said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents



It's not that he had a firearm at a "protest", it's not that he had multiple magazines, those details aren't the issue. The issue is, he was not there to peacefully "protest", we see that objectively in his actions in the videos. He obstructed, interfered with, and fought with Federal agents.

The details about the firearm and magazines are details that support the objective fact, he was there to break the law by interfering with Federal agents doing their job, he was armed while committing crimes, and while committing crimes of obstructing and fighting with Federal agents he had the forethought to make himself capable of committing grave bodily harm and possible death to Federal agents, and others, while committing crimes.

The 2A does not include being armed while committing crimes, nor do 2A advocates defend being armed while committing crimes. The first mistake by the man was when he made the choice to commit crimes rather than remain at a safe distance and ONLY peacefully protest. Had he chosen to only peacefully protest he would still be alive, being armed and the quantity of magazines is secondary and irrelevant.


Again, for the 100th time, what video are you all watching? Every video I've seen shows zero interference.

Do you all believe what he's saying
Ellis Wyatt
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Wake up. You're in full delusion.

Christians are called to live according to the scripture. We aren't called to sub out our Christianity to a government- one that is not and cannot be Christian.

Live it out yourself. Attacking people enforcing the law and protecting Americans is not loving it out. People are getting killed because of twisted people protecting criminals.
Aggie4Christ09
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Wake up. You're in full delusion.

Christians are called to live according to the scripture. We aren't called to sub out our Christianity to a government- one that is not and cannot be Christian.

Live it out yourself. Attacking people enforcing the law and protecting Americans is not loving it out. People are getting killed because of twisted people protecting criminals.


I've asked you at least five times and multiple others to show me any evidence whatsoever that this man was aggressive or interfering with their activities.

Until then, I stand by my statements.
TAMUallen
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I hope Christ heals you of your blindness.
Aggie4Christ09
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Evidence please!!!!!
deddog
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents

The old testament is pretty clear about what the Lord thinks of child sacrifices. And that is what abortions are. But you knew that.

Why was Alex in the area? Was he just an innocent who just happened to be passing by? Or did he know what the anarchists around him were up to?

It is interesting that you never posted about Jesus when illegals were murdering americans. Never cared when Democrats are preventing ICE from arresting these murderers and rapists.

Not a peep from you. You know why?
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
You are just using the Lord to justify your political positions which is absolutely despicable.
samurai_science
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Wake up. You're in full delusion.

Christians are called to live according to the scripture. We aren't called to sub out our Christianity to a government- one that is not and cannot be Christian.

Live it out yourself. Attacking people enforcing the law and protecting Americans is not loving it out. People are getting killed because of twisted people protecting criminals.


I've asked you at least five times and multiple others to show me any evidence whatsoever that this man was aggressive or interfering with their activities.

Until then, I stand by my statements.

His is entire organization is, they protested and interfered with the targeted arrest of two illegal sexual protestors. F HIM, he was scum
Muy
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Are they still in favor of nobody owning a gun unless they have significant training?
Aggie4Christ09
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deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents

The old testament is pretty clear about what the Lord thinks of child sacrifices. And that is what abortions are. But you knew that.

Why was Alex in the area? Was he just an innocent who just happened to be passing by? Or did he know what the anarchists around him were up to?

It is interesting that you never posted about Jesus when illegals were murdering americans. Never cared when Democrats are preventing ICE from arresting these murderers and rapists.

Not a peep from you. You know why?
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
You are just using the Lord to justify your political positions which is absolutely despicable.


It doesn't matter why he was there, what matters is he was murdered without cause, due process, or any sort of instigation from him.
samurai_science
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents

The old testament is pretty clear about what the Lord thinks of child sacrifices. And that is what abortions are. But you knew that.

Why was Alex in the area? Was he just an innocent who just happened to be passing by? Or did he know what the anarchists around him were up to?

It is interesting that you never posted about Jesus when illegals were murdering americans. Never cared when Democrats are preventing ICE from arresting these murderers and rapists.

Not a peep from you. You know why?
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
You are just using the Lord to justify your political positions which is absolutely despicable.


It doesn't matter why he was there, what matters is he was murdered without cause, due process, or any sort of instigation from him.

He was not murdered mr judge jury and executioner. Even if so, good riddance.


javajaws
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents

The old testament is pretty clear about what the Lord thinks of child sacrifices. And that is what abortions are. But you knew that.

Why was Alex in the area? Was he just an innocent who just happened to be passing by? Or did he know what the anarchists around him were up to?

It is interesting that you never posted about Jesus when illegals were murdering americans. Never cared when Democrats are preventing ICE from arresting these murderers and rapists.

Not a peep from you. You know why?
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
You are just using the Lord to justify your political positions which is absolutely despicable.


It doesn't matter why he was there, what matters is he was murdered without cause, due process, or any sort of instigation from him.

Actually, it does matter why he was there. He was there by choice - so he intentionally put himself in that situation. He would be alive if he hadn't. End of story.

ICE did not intentionally go seeking him out to kill him. He sought out ICE, got involved, and ultimately paid an unfortunate price. All of those events stem from his initial action to "get involved". He pushed the situation, he confronted police, he resisted, and ultimately he got shot during the chaos of those actions. There were many opportunities for him to have a different result yet he chose none of them and rolled the dice instead.
Ellis Wyatt
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The man was being stupid. He got himself killed. He could have been at home. He could have been out witnessing. He could have been feeding the poor. He could have even been protesting.

Instead, he chose to insert himself into a law enforcement operation while armed. It was stupid and he's dead.
Ellis Wyatt
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There is no due process for inserting yourself into a situation you should be far away from while armed. Darwin got him.
Ellis Wyatt
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Wake up. You're in full delusion.

Christians are called to live according to the scripture. We aren't called to sub out our Christianity to a government- one that is not and cannot be Christian.

Live it out yourself. Attacking people enforcing the law and protecting Americans is not loving it out. People are getting killed because of twisted people protecting criminals.


I've asked you at least five times and multiple others to show me any evidence whatsoever that this man was aggressive or interfering with their activities.

Until then, I stand by my statements.


deddog
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents

The old testament is pretty clear about what the Lord thinks of child sacrifices. And that is what abortions are. But you knew that.

Why was Alex in the area? Was he just an innocent who just happened to be passing by? Or did he know what the anarchists around him were up to?

It is interesting that you never posted about Jesus when illegals were murdering americans. Never cared when Democrats are preventing ICE from arresting these murderers and rapists.

Not a peep from you. You know why?
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
You are just using the Lord to justify your political positions which is absolutely despicable.


It doesn't matter why he was there, what matters is he was murdered without cause, due process, or any sort of instigation from him.

This is a clown post
TAMUallen
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deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

deddog said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

TheGifGuy said:

I mean, you said you're teaching them your version of Christianity…


It's simple, would Jesus celebrate a healer (ICU nurse) being murdered?

Would Jesus celebrate the harassment of officials who are arresting murderers and rapists while they are enforcing the law of the land?
Would Jesus tolerate sojourners who rape children, steal from and murder their hosts?
Would Jesus tolerate the Islamists, who worship a false god, and are satan's minions?
Would Jesus tolerate those who sacrifice their children to the altar of liberalism?


I don't believe Jesus spoke about an altar of liberalism.

There's a lot of irony is talking about Jesus not tolerating the rape of children.

I'm also still waiting for any evidence that Alex harassed these ICE agents

The old testament is pretty clear about what the Lord thinks of child sacrifices. And that is what abortions are. But you knew that.

Why was Alex in the area? Was he just an innocent who just happened to be passing by? Or did he know what the anarchists around him were up to?

It is interesting that you never posted about Jesus when illegals were murdering americans. Never cared when Democrats are preventing ICE from arresting these murderers and rapists.

Not a peep from you. You know why?
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
You are just using the Lord to justify your political positions which is absolutely despicable.


It doesn't matter why he was there, what matters is he was murdered without cause, due process, or any sort of instigation from him.

This is a clown post


Fingers crossed the troll catches the ban hammer. The very username is mocking. Plus, the repetitive trolling is increasing in severity
FobTies
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Kash can do better. Pretty dumb point to say "no one shows up to a protest with a firearm loaded with 2 mags". They should just take accountability on Pretti mistake, then play offense against dems pushing propaganda against ICE. Thats the real issue, not someone exercising their Constitutional right to carry.

DannyDuberstein
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My favorite part is some asshat can take months, weeks, and hours stringing together a series of awful, illegal, risky decisions. But on the flipside with only partial information gleaned from the agent's perspective at the scene and only seconds or even a split second for the agents make a decision, these agents are expected to be perfect. That's just not going to happen. These are humans. You have to avoid it reaching that moment by not spending months/days/weeks/hours/minutes being a moron setting up this encounter

This isn't about 2A. It's about not being a moron committed to a string of idiotic, risky decisions.
 
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