Minneapolis Is Not Even A Close Call

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Texas velvet maestro said:

I'm saying life isn't cheap. or shouldn't be. And ICE should learn from this to avoid putting themselves in harms way from a crazy woman behind the wheel of a car. and allowing to occur, a zero sum situation for the agent and the crazy lady.


She put herself in that situation all day and Democrat mayor ordered police not to enforce the law
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Her car should have been disabled. A big truck, a cable and a hook. dragged off the site. It shouldn't have been allowed there at all.
Whenever we can take our time to slow things down and lower the temp, we should. And the agents need to understand the insanity behind those liberal cat-lady smiles. training

ICE takes the L on this because they took the life of a crazy women. And the ones who created her got what they wanted. They're fine with the sacrifice. we shouldn't be though.

Life will be a lot easier for you by purging the Toxic Empathy that infects you.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

I'm saying life isn't cheap. or shouldn't be. And ICE should learn from this to avoid putting themselves in harms way from a crazy woman behind the wheel of a car. and allowing to occur, a zero sum situation for the agent and the crazy lady.

Their entire job is "putting themselves in harm's way", thus them needing to carry weapons.

He has zero culpability in any of this. This is 110% on the liberal mind virus that led this chick to be there in the first place, defending criminals, and then becoming one herself.

You're right, life isn't cheap, but she made the decision to try and run over a cop. She cheapened her own life, in that instant, to the price of a bullet. Bad decision, for anyone.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Aglaw97 said:

BigRobSA said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

Her car should have been disabled. A big truck, a cable and a hook. dragged off the site. It shouldn't have been allowed there at all.
Whenever we can take our time to slow things down and lower the temp, we should. And the agents need to understand the insanity behind those liberal cat-lady smiles. training

ICE takes the L on this because they took the life of a crazy women. And the ones who created her got what they wanted. They're fine with the sacrifice. we shouldn't be though.

Good Lord....


"He should have shot the person in the leg, while doing a Mel Gibson Lethal Weapon roll out of the way."

Give me a break.

SHE. SHOULDN'T. HAVE. BEEN. THERE.

--full stop--


That not being the case, she shouldn't have tried to kill a person, cop or not.

He's clearly trolling or is just that obtuse. Either way not worth engaging anymore

I'm not trolling one single bit. I'm just on the wrong thread apparently

You are on the wrong thread because you continue to judge this via hindsight. You can be upset the woman died. But stop blaming or second guessing the ICE agent. There's a reason 200+ years of law (including a recent law enacted by MN own Governor Walz) protects his actions. Be pissed that the woman and her partner were that dumb to even jeopardize this could happen.
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She was blocking traffic all day. She is worm food as a reward for her stupidity
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Texas velvet maestro said:

It was an unnecessary shooting even if it can be technically justified. Life in the USA isn't supposed to be cheap. like it is ****hole countries. The protesters are mentally deranged, but that needs to be taken into account instead of used as an excuse to hurt or kill them.

Them being deranged makes the shooting even more justified. They are literally insane so the poor office had no idea what that moron was going to do.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Aglaw97 said:

BigRobSA said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

Her car should have been disabled. A big truck, a cable and a hook. dragged off the site. It shouldn't have been allowed there at all.
Whenever we can take our time to slow things down and lower the temp, we should. And the agents need to understand the insanity behind those liberal cat-lady smiles. training

ICE takes the L on this because they took the life of a crazy women. And the ones who created her got what they wanted. They're fine with the sacrifice. we shouldn't be though.

Good Lord....


"He should have shot the person in the leg, while doing a Mel Gibson Lethal Weapon roll out of the way."

Give me a break.

SHE. SHOULDN'T. HAVE. BEEN. THERE.

--full stop--


That not being the case, she shouldn't have tried to kill a person, cop or not.

He's clearly trolling or is just that obtuse. Either way not worth engaging anymore

I'm not trolling one single bit. I'm just on the wrong thread planet apparently

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Texas velvet maestro said:

It was an unnecessary shooting even if it can be technically justified. Life in the USA isn't supposed to be cheap. like it is ****hole countries. The protesters are mentally deranged, but that needs to be taken into account instead of used as an excuse to hurt or kill them.

In the words of Forrest...

Stupid is as stupid does.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Her car should have been disabled. A big truck, a cable and a hook. dragged off the site. It shouldn't have been allowed there at all.
Whenever we can take our time to slow things down and lower the temp, we should. And the agents need to understand the insanity behind those liberal cat-lady smiles. training

ICE takes the L on this because they took the life of a crazy women. And the ones who created her got what they wanted. They're fine with the sacrifice. we shouldn't be though.

Well, at some point you have to be accountable for your actions. And she ultimately was.

It's hard to feel sympathy for someone who was an active Marxist working against this nation's sovereignty. She made herself an enemy of the state, frankly.

And she could have remained an enemy of the state with zero repercussions if she had just obeyed the law and not actively collaborated to prevent the law from being exercised.
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Aglaw97 said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

I'm not trolling one single bit. I'm just on the wrong thread apparently

You are on the wrong thread because you continue to judge this via hindsight...

yeah I'll give you that. but the hindsight is the only sight I have. If I have judgment it is of course on the evil (LEFTIST Elite) in this country who are willing to sacrifice Americans by winding them up, sending them to protest illegally and fashioning them to be martyrs, and then, on poorly planned ICE operations that allow these fools on the site of an operation, to drive around in cars.

And my first suggestion would be, as a safety tactic, slow down, secure the area. because life isn't cheap. and a "justified kill" isn't a win. Doing the job and not killing somebody even if they're asking for it, is the win.
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It was unnecessary if the dead woman could have obeyed the law. She made it necessary to kill her. Tragic that people are so stupid.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Aglaw97 said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

I'm not trolling one single bit. I'm just on the wrong thread apparently

You are on the wrong thread because you continue to judge this via hindsight...

yeah I'll give you that. but the hindsight is the only sight I have. If I have judgment it is of course on the evil (LEFTIST Elite) in this country who are willing to sacrifice Americans by winding them up, sending them to protest illegally and fashioning them to be martyrs, and then, on poorly planned ICE operations that allow these fools on the site of an operation, to drive around in cars.

And my first suggestion would be, as a safety tactic, slow down, secure the area. because life isn't cheap. and a "justified kill" isn't a win. Doing the job and not killing somebody even if they're asking for it, is the win.

Um, the Dem mayor of the city held back police support.

ICE doesn't have a traffic division.

Your whole take is just weird. None of this is on ICE. Not a single, little bit.
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BigRobSA said:

Um, the Dem mayor of the city held back police support.

ICE doesn't have a traffic division.

Your whole take is just weird. None of this is on ICE. Not a single, little bit.

My take isn't weird at all . I don't want it to happen more, and because the end-result is exactly what our opposition command was hoping for (that is an american citizen's death by an ice agent's gun) we should do things better, to avoid that. It's strategy. I want us to do better going forward.
And then there's the matter of human life...

So, I'm just on the wrong thread.
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It's wild to me that so many people can watch the same videos, decide it proves what they already believed, and become deeper entrenched in their position. I guess it's the same absence of objectivity that leads us to embrace fake stories without fact checking or questioning. We believe what we want, facts be damned.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

It was an unnecessary shooting even if it can be technically justified. Life in the USA isn't supposed to be cheap. like it is ****hole countries. The protesters are mentally deranged, but that needs to be taken into account instead of used as an excuse to hurt or kill them.


Addition by subtraction.
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The solution to do "better" is to capitulate to the left's lunatic demands.

Capitulation has always been a successful solution.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

I'm saying life isn't cheap. or shouldn't be. And ICE should learn from this to avoid putting themselves in harms way from a crazy woman behind the wheel of a car. and allowing to occur, a zero sum situation for the agent and the crazy lady.


If MPD were doing standard traffic/crowd control would this have happened?
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Ogre09 said:

It's wild to me that so many people can watch the same videos, decide it proves what they already believed, and become deeper entrenched in their position. I guess it's the same absence of objectivity that leads us to embrace fake stories without fact checking or questioning. We believe what we want, facts be damned.


Except that one side hasn't moved.

The other side went through

1) Legal observer!
2) Commuter minding her own business!
3) Mom who just dropped off kid at school!
etc., etc., etc.

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Squadron7 said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

I'm saying life isn't cheap. or shouldn't be. And ICE should learn from this to avoid putting themselves in harms way from a crazy woman behind the wheel of a car. and allowing to occur, a zero sum situation for the agent and the crazy lady.


If MPD were doing standard traffic/crowd control would this have happened?

No because the streets would be blocked off and those already there to interfere instructed to leave, if they refuse, arrest them, and an officer takes the vehicle and moves it out of the way.

Like this.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

The officer put himself in harms way when he approached the vehicle from the front during an arrest. Police are supposed to approach from the SIDE.

Then, when Rene tried to drive away, she turned her steering to point her wheels AWAY from the officer, which is clearly visible from the officer's cellphone video.

The officer sees this and fires several shots anyway, and continues to shoot when he is at the side of the vehicle.

He was walking around the vehicle videoing it. She knew that BECAUSE SHE TALKED TO HIM. And so did her "wife", who ALSO knew he was in front of the vehicle when she told her to "Drive baby drive"...
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I'm done engaging. You are either trolling or just beyond all logical reasoning for completely failing to see that loss of life is sad yet she is solely responsible for her own death. Have a good day.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

The officer put himself in harms way when he approached the vehicle from the front during an arrest. Police are supposed to approach from the SIDE.

Then, when Rene tried to drive away, she turned her steering to point her wheels AWAY from the officer, which is clearly visible from the officer's cellphone video.

The officer sees this and fires several shots anyway, and continues to shoot when he is at the side of the vehicle.


The lady put herself in harms way when she decided to dump her kids at school, drive to the next state and protest in support of criminals. That's a series of poor life choices that any rational, responsible person would not have made. She was a widow which means she's the only parent her kids have. But since her priorities were completely out of whack, now her kids are potentially in foster care where outcomes are poor. Frankly she's simply just not a good person. I'm not justifying her death but she was completely responsible for this.
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Im trying to think of 1 thing you've been right about since you started posting as Dark Brandon.

........coming up empty.
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The guy screaming from the front yard sounds absolutely deranged.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

It was an unnecessary shooting even if it can be technically justified. Life in the USA isn't supposed to be cheap. like it is ****hole countries. The protesters are mentally deranged, but that needs to be taken into account instead of used as an excuse to hurt or kill them.


I disagree. Their insanity should be used as a defense by LEO's when faced with split second decisions. Crazy people are unpredictable and as such, a personal threat to each and every person who holds the thin blue line. In many cases, these people belong to anti-American subversive groups. They are terrorists and should be treated as such. Trump's FBI should be laying out their funding networks and they should be prosecuted under RICO statutes.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Her car should have been disabled. A big truck, a cable and a hook. dragged off the site. It shouldn't have been allowed there at all.
Whenever we can take our time to slow things down and lower the temp, we should. And the agents need to understand the insanity behind those liberal cat-lady smiles. training

ICE takes the L on this because they took the life of a crazy women. And the ones who created her got what they wanted. They're fine with the sacrifice. we shouldn't be though.

So now it's ICE's responsibility to have a fleet of tow trucks, wheel boots, and extra manpower to ride along to the area and disable MULTIPLE vehicles that are buzzing around the scene? You obviously haven't thought this through.

You do know that is part of their strategy, swarm an area, shield, get in the way, slow things down, interfere. It has happened over and over and over in liberal cities and states.

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Topaz said:

The guy screaming from the front yard sounds absolutely deranged.

Yeah. Minneapolis has no shortage of deranged people. Worse during winter as cabin fever strikes.
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Have you ever been right about anything? Can you post a link to it?
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Texas velvet maestro said:

It was an unnecessary shooting even if it can be technically justified. Life in the USA isn't supposed to be cheap. like it is ****hole countries. The protesters are mentally deranged, but that needs to be taken into account instead of used as an excuse to hurt or kill them.


Nope.
Wrong.
He didn't have days to think about it.
“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
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Stop it. You're being irrational and unreasonable.

ICE is not traffic enforcement. ICE is not parking enforcement. ICE is there to deal with immigration and customs. The idiot woman got her face shot off because she incorrectly believed she could stop them from doing their jobs. She was wrong.
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Correct. One person acted with respect for our laws. Another chose to recklessly violate our laws. She ate a bullet for her stupidity.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

The officer put himself in harms way when he approached the vehicle from the front during an arrest. Police are supposed to approach from the SIDE.

Then, when Rene tried to drive away, she turned her steering to point her wheels AWAY from the officer, which is clearly visible from the officer's cellphone video.

The officer sees this and fires several shots anyway, and continues to shoot when he is at the side of the vehicle.

Flagged for misinformation.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

Her car should have been disabled. A big truck, a cable and a hook. dragged off the site. It shouldn't have been allowed there at all.
Whenever we can take our time to slow things down and lower the temp, we should. And the agents need to understand the insanity behind those liberal cat-lady smiles. training

ICE takes the L on this because they took the life of a crazy women. And the ones who created her got what they wanted. They're fine with the sacrifice. we shouldn't be though.


You do know that is part of their strategy, swarm an area, shield, get in the way, slow things down, interfere. It has happened over and over and over in liberal cities and states.

Plus local law enforcement has already been told stand down, so no traffic enforcement or anything else.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

BigRobSA said:

Um, the Dem mayor of the city held back police support.

ICE doesn't have a traffic division.

Your whole take is just weird. None of this is on ICE. Not a single, little bit.

My take isn't weird at all . I don't want it to happen more, and because the end-result is exactly what our opposition command was hoping for (that is an american citizen's death by an ice agent's gun) we should do things better, to avoid that. It's strategy. I want us to do better going forward.
And then there's the matter of human life...

So, I'm just on the wrong thread.


Talik to the Democrat mayors of Portland, Seattle, L.A., and MN then, they are the ones telling law enforcement they can run amok and there will be no consequences. That's what you dont seem to grasp.


I dont care that some ANTIFA funded progressive was killed, its not a loss at all, we are better off.
 
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