Daylight Savings Time & Trump

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Im Gipper said:

jja79 said:

What is SDT?


Why a dyslexic call girl gives you.
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plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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fc2112 said:

jja79 said:

Enjoy springing forward. I'm not doing it.
I basically do not do it. I show up at work at 7:30 AM during standard time and 8:30 AM during DST.

I'm sure your boss loves you
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Problem with EO is they are temporary fix, need to severely limit them to make both sides of aisle work.
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Where are we on this?

More talk and no real action?
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infinity ag said:

Where are we on this?

More talk and no real action?


Where we are on this, is that Congress has to pass a law making daylight savings time permanent, or doing away with it altogether.

Or, your state can opt out of daylight savings time.

A state cannot adopt permanent daylight savings time

Executive order won't cut it because there is a statute on the books
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Captain Pablo said:

infinity ag said:

Where are we on this?

More talk and no real action?


Where we are on this, is that Congress has to pass a law making daylight savings time permanent, or doing away with it altogether.

Or, your state can opt out of daylight savings time.

A state cannot adopt permanent daylight savings time


Executive order won't cut it because there is a statute on the books
Yep. Nevada has a bill that will end DST and put us on permanent standard time, which will suck for Las Vegas. I can't imagine people being happy with a 4:25 sunrise and 7:00 sunset in June.
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I'm willing to bet he wants it daylight later in the summer and doesn't realize daylight savings is not the regular time.
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One of the more amusing Texags recurring threads Most people think that switching to year long EST (Eastern standard time ) is an option

Pretty sure that is not an option
My understanding is it's either opt out of DST like Arizona or continue to change the clocks twice a year
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Daylight shifting time is just like Covid vaccines - government "experts" who think they know better than the rest of us. Best summary I have seen:

#EndDST Changing the clocks is anti-health, anti-science, and anti-family.

If you don't want to read the whole thing, here's the conclusion:

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Daylight saving time hasn't achieved its primary public policy goalenergy conservationand may actually undermine it, imposing significant environmental, health, safety, family, and economic harms along the way. Despite these facts, lobbying by powerful industry groups and a handful of late-sleeping lollygaggers not only has protected this failed government program, which annually steals an hour of our lives and months later returns it interest-free, but has actually expanded itthereby thrusting tens of millions of American workers and families into abject darkness for even longer.

Cynics might say that change here is impossible, that the forces of Big Business and American political dysfunction are too strong to overcome, but such pessimism ignores history both here and abroad. Countries around the world, for example, have ditched the practice in recent years, and Europe could be next: In 2018, the European Parliament voted 384-153 to review "whether Daylight Saving Time is actually worth it," due to "growing dissatisfaction" with the system. Here at home, Americans have beaten back the DST menace not once, but twiceabandoning it after WWI ("it proved unpopular") and again in the 1970s, after those unfortunate bus stop accidents.

Let's hope that it doesn't take even more needless harm to our children before we act again.
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March 9th will be the deadliest day of the year for cardiac events.
Daylight savings time literally kills.
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Sq 17 said:

One of the more amusing Texags recurring threads Most people think that switching to year long EST (Eastern standard time ) is an option

Pretty sure that is not an option
Mynunderstandjng it's either opt out of DST like Arizona or continue to change the clocks twice a year
I don't recall seeing anyone think permanent EST was an option, or a good idea.
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beerad12man said:

Choice 1) Daylights savings year round

Choice 2) Clocks move twice a year and keep it as is.
























Choice 3) Standard time year round.


Here's one example
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HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.


The OP if I am understanding it is advocating for springing forward and never falling back
Also known as Eastern Standard Time
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I follow the semi annual whine fest about DST and it rarely disappoints
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Sq 17 said:

HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.


The OP if I am understanding it is advocating for springing forward and never falling back
Also known as Eastern Standard Time
Standard time is standard time for your zone, not Eastern Standard Time. I'm in the Pacific time zone. Right now we are Pacific Standard Time, We will move to Pacific Daylight Time this weekend.
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Sorry for the confusion the net affect for Texas except El Paso that would be to be permanent EST
For Vegas you'd be in permanent mountain standard Time
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Sq 17 said:

Sorry for the confusion the net affect for Texas except El Paso that would be to be permanent EST
For Vegas you'd be in permanent mountain standard Time

Nm
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HowdyTAMU said:

Kansas Kid said:

So you want an executive order to overturn a federal law? If that is the case, is there any law he can't overturn with an EO?
EOs are so out of control now it really doesn't matter how he gets it done. Just make it happen.




The president isn't a king

Congress makes laws
Courts interpret laws
The executive enforces/executes the law.
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HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
People's fascination and frustration with DST is funny, in my opinion. Life must be really good for this to be a problem.
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Daylight savings time is more important in the north versus the south, because their days are longer in summer and shorter in winter than ours are in Texas. I'd split the US into 8 zones versus 4 and have DST in the north but not the south.
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TexAgs91 said:

HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
The country would not like this

What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent?

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For ten months in the mid-1970s, America's clocks sprang forward and never fell back.

Year-round daylight saving time (DST), signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, sought to maximize evening sunlight and, in doing so, help mitigate an ongoing national gas crisis. But while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974


Ah yes, the US is exactly the same as it was 50 years ago...
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Ag with kids said:

TexAgs91 said:

HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
The country would not like this

What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent?

Quote:

For ten months in the mid-1970s, America's clocks sprang forward and never fell back.

Year-round daylight saving time (DST), signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, sought to maximize evening sunlight and, in doing so, help mitigate an ongoing national gas crisis. But while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974


Ah yes, the US is exactly the same as it was 50 years ago...
Hmmm, you raise a good point. I shouldn't assume the sun rises and sets in the 2020s the same as it did in the 1970s
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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Sq 17 said:

Sorry for the confusion the net affect for Texas except El Paso that would be to be permanent EST
For Vegas you'd be in permanent mountain standard Time
So, the east coast moves to permanet AST?
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TexAgs91 said:

Ag with kids said:

TexAgs91 said:

HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
The country would not like this

What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent?

Quote:

For ten months in the mid-1970s, America's clocks sprang forward and never fell back.

Year-round daylight saving time (DST), signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, sought to maximize evening sunlight and, in doing so, help mitigate an ongoing national gas crisis. But while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974


Ah yes, the US is exactly the same as it was 50 years ago...
Hmmm, you raise a good point. I shouldn't assume the sun rises and sets in the 2020s the same as it did in the 1970s
You also shouldn't assume that the people in the US are the same.

I guess the people in the US were the same in 1973 as they were in 1923, too...
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If they were to spring forward and not fall back Yes, it would be year-round.AST


I think much of the animosity is because people don't like the government' doing something they feel is arbitrary and capricious but they overlook that changing the clocks twice a year is probably the best option for lots of people

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I've been waking up at 4:30 the past few months, and I'll go back to 5:30 on Sunday, my body won't mind
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DST year-round. More daylight to spend golfing, with the family etc etc. I personally HATE when it gets dark at 5:30pm...and I have a theory that most other healthy/active people do too. It's the lazy couch potatoes who like when it is pitch black at 6pm so they can stuff their faces and watch netflix all night.
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In the dead of winter the sun setting at 630 as compared to 530 is IMO marginal but the sun coming up at 715 instead of 815 is significant

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So given that there are already several states that do DST year round , why is this even a federal thing? Let the states do as they wish. I say this as a fan of DST year round but if you already can and there is a groundswell of support then do it at the state level.
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Even on DST it'd be dark by then during the winter where I live in Colorado.
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RDV-1992 said:

Daylight savings time is more important in the north versus the south, because their days are longer in summer and shorter in winter than ours are in Texas. I'd split the US into 8 zones versus 4 and have DST in the north but not the south.


Yeah, that sounds like such a great idea. Would really simplify things.
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I don't care if they keep it as is

It doesn't bother me in the least

Grow a pair and quit whining
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HowdyTAMU said:

Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.

Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.


I want to stay on standard time. DST
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halfastros81 said:

So given that there are already several states that do DST year round , why is this even a federal thing? Let the states do as they wish. I say this as a fan of DST year round but if you already can and there is a groundswell of support then do it at the state level.


No one does DST year round! It's prohibited by the Feds!

I'm Gipper
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Captain Pablo said:

RDV-1992 said:

Daylight savings time is more important in the north versus the south, because their days are longer in summer and shorter in winter than ours are in Texas. I'd split the US into 8 zones versus 4 and have DST in the north but not the south.


Yeah, that sounds like such a great idea. Would really simplify things.


I see your sarcasm, but if people can get used to 4 they can get used to 8. If they get confused they can just look at their phone for the correct time.
 
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