Dyslexic Tech TardIm Gipper said:jja79 said:
What is SDT?
Why a dyslexic call girl gives you.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Dyslexic Tech TardIm Gipper said:jja79 said:
What is SDT?
Why a dyslexic call girl gives you.
fc2112 said:I basically do not do it. I show up at work at 7:30 AM during standard time and 8:30 AM during DST.jja79 said:
Enjoy springing forward. I'm not doing it.
infinity ag said:
Where are we on this?
More talk and no real action?
Yep. Nevada has a bill that will end DST and put us on permanent standard time, which will suck for Las Vegas. I can't imagine people being happy with a 4:25 sunrise and 7:00 sunset in June.Captain Pablo said:infinity ag said:
Where are we on this?
More talk and no real action?
Where we are on this, is that Congress has to pass a law making daylight savings time permanent, or doing away with it altogether.
Or, your state can opt out of daylight savings time.
A state cannot adopt permanent daylight savings time
Executive order won't cut it because there is a statute on the books
Quote:
Daylight saving time hasn't achieved its primary public policy goalenergy conservationand may actually undermine it, imposing significant environmental, health, safety, family, and economic harms along the way. Despite these facts, lobbying by powerful industry groups and a handful of late-sleeping lollygaggers not only has protected this failed government program, which annually steals an hour of our lives and months later returns it interest-free, but has actually expanded itthereby thrusting tens of millions of American workers and families into abject darkness for even longer.
Cynics might say that change here is impossible, that the forces of Big Business and American political dysfunction are too strong to overcome, but such pessimism ignores history both here and abroad. Countries around the world, for example, have ditched the practice in recent years, and Europe could be next: In 2018, the European Parliament voted 384-153 to review "whether Daylight Saving Time is actually worth it," due to "growing dissatisfaction" with the system. Here at home, Americans have beaten back the DST menace not once, but twiceabandoning it after WWI ("it proved unpopular") and again in the 1970s, after those unfortunate bus stop accidents.
Let's hope that it doesn't take even more needless harm to our children before we act again.
I don't recall seeing anyone think permanent EST was an option, or a good idea.Sq 17 said:
One of the more amusing Texags recurring threads Most people think that switching to year long EST (Eastern standard time ) is an option
Pretty sure that is not an option
Mynunderstandjng it's either opt out of DST like Arizona or continue to change the clocks twice a year
beerad12man said:
Choice 1) Daylights savings year round
Choice 2) Clocks move twice a year and keep it as is.
Choice 3) Standard time year round.
HowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
Standard time is standard time for your zone, not Eastern Standard Time. I'm in the Pacific time zone. Right now we are Pacific Standard Time, We will move to Pacific Daylight Time this weekend.Sq 17 said:HowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
The OP if I am understanding it is advocating for springing forward and never falling back
Also known as Eastern Standard Time
Sq 17 said:
Sorry for the confusion the net affect for Texas except El Paso that would be to be permanent EST
For Vegas you'd be in permanent mountain standard Time
HowdyTAMU said:EOs are so out of control now it really doesn't matter how he gets it done. Just make it happen.Kansas Kid said:
So you want an executive order to overturn a federal law? If that is the case, is there any law he can't overturn with an EO?

People's fascination and frustration with DST is funny, in my opinion. Life must be really good for this to be a problem.HowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
Ah yes, the US is exactly the same as it was 50 years ago...TexAgs91 said:The country would not like thisHowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent?Quote:
For ten months in the mid-1970s, America's clocks sprang forward and never fell back.
Year-round daylight saving time (DST), signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, sought to maximize evening sunlight and, in doing so, help mitigate an ongoing national gas crisis. But while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974
Hmmm, you raise a good point. I shouldn't assume the sun rises and sets in the 2020s the same as it did in the 1970sAg with kids said:Ah yes, the US is exactly the same as it was 50 years ago...TexAgs91 said:The country would not like thisHowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent?Quote:
For ten months in the mid-1970s, America's clocks sprang forward and never fell back.
Year-round daylight saving time (DST), signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, sought to maximize evening sunlight and, in doing so, help mitigate an ongoing national gas crisis. But while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974
So, the east coast moves to permanet AST?Sq 17 said:
Sorry for the confusion the net affect for Texas except El Paso that would be to be permanent EST
For Vegas you'd be in permanent mountain standard Time
You also shouldn't assume that the people in the US are the same.TexAgs91 said:Hmmm, you raise a good point. I shouldn't assume the sun rises and sets in the 2020s the same as it did in the 1970sAg with kids said:Ah yes, the US is exactly the same as it was 50 years ago...TexAgs91 said:The country would not like thisHowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent?Quote:
For ten months in the mid-1970s, America's clocks sprang forward and never fell back.
Year-round daylight saving time (DST), signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, sought to maximize evening sunlight and, in doing so, help mitigate an ongoing national gas crisis. But while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974
RDV-1992 said:
Daylight savings time is more important in the north versus the south, because their days are longer in summer and shorter in winter than ours are in Texas. I'd split the US into 8 zones versus 4 and have DST in the north but not the south.
HowdyTAMU said:
Here is Trump's opportunity! He needs to fulfill his promise to terminate the changing of daylight savings time.
Next week we spring forward and start daylight savings time. Trump needs to sign an EO afterward to keep us on it.
halfastros81 said:
So given that there are already several states that do DST year round , why is this even a federal thing? Let the states do as they wish. I say this as a fan of DST year round but if you already can and there is a groundswell of support then do it at the state level.
Captain Pablo said:RDV-1992 said:
Daylight savings time is more important in the north versus the south, because their days are longer in summer and shorter in winter than ours are in Texas. I'd split the US into 8 zones versus 4 and have DST in the north but not the south.
Yeah, that sounds like such a great idea. Would really simplify things.