I don't go to the theaters for the same reason I don't go to target. They don't sell anything I need bad enough to let my money support their woke BS.

That said, when Kroger was out of our brand of baby formula I went to target, because I needed something bad enough. Last movie I saw it theaters was TG Maverick. Loved it and have watched it a handful of times at home since.

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Now again, can that go too far? Sure, if they prioritize politicizing above story that rarely works. But take something like Blue Eye Samurai. It's by any definition extremely "woke", centered around themes of gender roles, sexuality, and race. But it's executed exceptionally well and pretty universally praised.

If a less skilled creator tried to do the same thing, they might fail miserably. But that doesn't mean their goals were any different.

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And I think this statement shows that you and I dont agree on what "woke" is. By no definition would I call Blue Eye Samurai "woke". She's not a Mary Sue. Everything about her character feels earned, through careful storytelling and character building. She's incredibly flawed but multifaceted and a fully fleshed out character.

This statement is what many on the left project onto us. It's why every crazy actress these days starts posting preemptive crap about audiences rejecting their movie. The vast majority of people complaining about woke and DEI have NEVER been against stories about women. Most of us LOVE the character of Ripley, or The Bride, and many other strong female characters. We dont believe having a female or black lead makes a movie "woke". We also arent against stories about gay characters. I love The Birdcage and Green Book.

Honestly, this statement of your's shows a glaring misunderstanding as to what woke is.

The line "I recommend you stop being such a ******, you're in the back seat" in old school is incredible and someone in the writers room even suggesting that these days would get them excommunicated from Hollywood.

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fig96 said:

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Now again, can that go too far? Sure, if they prioritize politicizing above story that rarely works. But take something like Blue Eye Samurai. It's by any definition extremely "woke", centered around themes of gender roles, sexuality, and race. But it's executed exceptionally well and pretty universally praised.

If a less skilled creator tried to do the same thing, they might fail miserably. But that doesn't mean their goals were any different.

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And I think this statement shows that you and I dont agree on what "woke" is. By no definition would I call Blue Eye Samurai "woke". She's not a Mary Sue. Everything about her character feels earned, through careful storytelling and character building. She's incredibly flawed but multifaceted and a fully fleshed out character.

This statement is what many on the left project onto us. It's why every crazy actress these days starts posting preemptive crap about audiences rejecting their movie. The vast majority of people complaining about woke and DEI have NEVER been against stories about women. Most of us LOVE the character of Ripley, or The Bride, and many other strong female characters. We dont believe having a female or black lead makes a movie "woke". We also arent against stories about gay characters. I love The Birdcage and Green Book.

Honestly, this statement of your's shows a glaring misunderstanding as to what woke is.

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One of my favorite TV characters of all time is a gay man. Officer John Cooper from Southland. But you know what, they didn't make "gay" his entire identity or a main focal point of the show. He was just a badass, who happened to be gay..

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One of my other all time fav tv characters was a black women who was a lead detective on the same show.



Don't ever let a leftist gaslight you into thinking you're bigoted or crazy for noticing how out of control a lot of the woke crap has become, just in the last decade.

While we're on the topic, no way you could make Southland today, at least not in its same form. At the very least, they'd have to litter it with subtle preachy racial and societal messages, kind of like The Pitt.

We didn't even learn he was gay until deep into season 2 (I think?) when he wakes up in bed with a man.

The difference between this and 'woke' shows that shove 'inclusion' down your throat is in a woke show, you find out he's gay because there will be a full-frontal scene of gay sex early on in the show.

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We didn't even learn he was gay until deep into season 2 (I think?) when he wakes up in bed with a man.

The difference between this and 'woke' shows that shove 'inclusion' down your throat is in a woke show, you find out he's gay because there will be a full-frontal scene of gay sex early on in the show.

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There were strong hints just short of confirmation in mid to late season 1, but your point stands. Nowadays they would have announced it up front and he would have just been used as a device for political preachiness. It's crazy how much has changed in the last 10 years, and I can't believe more cannot see it.

The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.

Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.

It was perceived as "this guy is committing social seppeku on live TV". If you want to sit at the cool kids table in the Hollywood cafeteria, you will conform. I think it's why it's such a hard pill to swallow that the things that get you social credit boosts in LA also lose your studio $100 million dollars at the box office.

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It was perceived as "this guy is committing social seppeku on live TV". If you want to sit at the cool kids table in the Hollywood cafeteria, you will conform. I think it's why it's such a hard pillow to swallow that the things that get you social credit boosts in LA also lose your studio $100 million dollars at the box office.

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Miss the old days when right wing and leftist would put their policies aside and make a movie together. John Wayne and Kirk Douglas did it in Harms Way. Look at the movie The Longest Day. How many actors and actresses were right wing and leftist, yet made a master piece of a movie.

Hollywood went full send one direction and then are crying because they are losing money.

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maroon barchetta said:

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The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.

Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.

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God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.

Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.

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I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.

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It was perceived as "this guy is committing social seppeku on live TV". If you want to sit at the cool kids table in the Hollywood cafeteria, you will conform. I think it's why it's such a hard pillow to swallow that the things that get you social credit boosts in LA also lose your studio $100 million dollars at the box office.

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Change your username to Michael Scott.

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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schmendeler said:

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Sooper Jeenyus said:

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maroon barchetta said:

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The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.

Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.

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God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.

Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.

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I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.

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He went off that last time though in a manner I had never seen him do before if I remember correctly. Wasn't just a couple of little jabs. It clearly was different as it went pretty viral. Also, has been invited back since?

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He said he it was his last time he would host during his opener in 2020. Not sure if they tried to get him back despite that.

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Well he's telling a bunch of self worshiping narcissists to stop preaching like they know what the hell they are talking about, so I am assuming most didn't like it….even many who are laughing out loud. People are free to think most of them loved being called out though I guess.

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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schmendeler said:

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Sooper Jeenyus said:

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maroon barchetta said:

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The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.

Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.

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God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.

Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.

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I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.

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He went off that last time though in a manner I had never seen him do before if I remember correctly. Wasn't just a couple of little jabs. It clearly was different as it went pretty viral. Also, has been invited back since?

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He said he it was his last time he would host during his opener in 2020. Not sure if they tried to get him back despite that.

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That was one of the best parts of the monologue, his consistent "I don't care" reply to their response to his jokes.

My favorite part is always the line when he tells them to not give a political speech because most of them spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg, and have no clue about the real world, so they're in no position to lecture anyone.

The quip about Leo attending the premiere of a long movie and his girlfriend being too old for him by the end was pretty genius.

Most of the comments in this thread center around what is left out or forbiden. What can, or can't, get made. Restraints on the artistic process etc. etc. And, those play a part.

The "Hollywood death spiral" also has alot to do with what is being left in, forced in. Ask any parent...

The "Oh sh**" moments for this demographic are contributing, no doubt. Many do not go and will wait to stream so they have the opportunity to pre-screen the content.

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Studios cleansing themselves of people who warn them what the "modern audience" might be turned off by will be a huge step in the right direction.

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+1000

Pulp Fiction writer Roger Avary on what's behind Hollywood's embrace of wokeness:

"I think a lot of it has to do with the preponderance of female executives that are working at the broadcasters and at the studios.

Listen, I’ve worked with a ton of amazing development… pic.twitter.com/DBhM6vYQJF

— Fandom Pulse (@fandompulse) April 7, 2026

Well, he just got cancelled.

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Cliff.Booth said:

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Pulp Fiction writer Roger Avary on what's behind Hollywood's embrace of wokeness:

"I think a lot of it has to do with the preponderance of female executives that are working at the broadcasters and at the studios.

Listen, I’ve worked with a ton of amazing development… pic.twitter.com/DBhM6vYQJF

— Fandom Pulse (@fandompulse) April 7, 2026

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"Female executives" is pretty sexist and ****ty

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So its sexist and ****ty to acknowledge men and women work and think differently? Granted, he hasn't presented any facts to back up his theory - buts its plausible given that men and women (in general) do not think/work in exactly the same way or with the same motivations.

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schmendeler said:

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Cliff.Booth said:

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Pulp Fiction writer Roger Avary on what's behind Hollywood's embrace of wokeness:

"I think a lot of it has to do with the preponderance of female executives that are working at the broadcasters and at the studios.

Listen, I’ve worked with a ton of amazing development… pic.twitter.com/DBhM6vYQJF

— Fandom Pulse (@fandompulse) April 7, 2026

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"Female executives" is pretty sexist and ****ty

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So its sexist and ****ty to acknowledge men and women work and think differently? Granted, he hasn't presented any facts to back up his theory - buts its plausible given that men and women (in general) do not think/work in exactly the same way or with the same motivations.

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He's not saying men and women think differently. He is talking about a problem as he sees it and blames women for it.

schmendeler said:

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javajaws said:

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schmendeler said:

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Cliff.Booth said:

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Pulp Fiction writer Roger Avary on what's behind Hollywood's embrace of wokeness:

"I think a lot of it has to do with the preponderance of female executives that are working at the broadcasters and at the studios.

Listen, I’ve worked with a ton of amazing development… pic.twitter.com/DBhM6vYQJF

— Fandom Pulse (@fandompulse) April 7, 2026

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"Female executives" is pretty sexist and ****ty

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So its sexist and ****ty to acknowledge men and women work and think differently? Granted, he hasn't presented any facts to back up his theory - buts its plausible given that men and women (in general) do not think/work in exactly the same way or with the same motivations.

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He's not saying men and women think differently. He is talking about a problem as he sees it and blames women for it.

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That's literally what he's saying based on the tweet. Guys look at Star Wars at a basic level, women take a different view and change characters.