Athena should be at least Matt Damon's contemporary. Someone like Nicole Kidman.
*** THE ODYSSEY *** (Christopher Nolan)
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Lathspell said:CharleyKerfeld said:
I've never figured out why people are so down on Zendaya.
I've seen her in 3 projects: Spiderman, Dune, and Greatest Showman, and thought was very good in all 3.
You thought she was "very good"? To me, she did just enough to not detract from the movie, but her casting in those movies was one of the weaker castings, imo.
I am surprised how popular she seems to be with great directors when her acting chops are passable, at best. There are so many better actresses out there who could play Athena.
I'm sure it won't detract too much from the movie, but I'm "meh" on it.
Exactly. I guess I don't see her bringing much, and I find she lacks charisma in her roles. But maybe I'm just not giving her a fair chance. Still think it's an odd choice for a goddess in a movie like this. She screams aloof teenage nonconformist girl (like in Spiderman), and I didn't think she was anything special in Dune. Seems very forgettable in her portrayal of roles to me, but thats just IMHO.
TriAg2010 said:
Athena should be at least Matt Damon's contemporary. Someone like Nicole Kidman.
Nicole Kidman in a toga? Sign me up!
Probably a dumb question but I don't go to the movies a lot anymore. My daughter is obsessed with Greek gods right now thanks to reading all the Percy Jackson books so I was looking for tickets to this but in Denver I'm not seeing anything available yet. When does AMC generally start selling for a movie like this? They have a couple IMAX theaters I was going to go to.
It doesn't come out until next summerBQ2001 said:
Probably a dumb question but I don't go to the movies a lot anymore. My daughter is obsessed with Greek gods right now thanks to reading all the Percy Jackson books so I was looking for tickets to this but in Denver I'm not seeing anything available yet. When does AMC generally start selling for a movie like this? They have a couple IMAX theaters I was going to go to.
I think Athena is a difficult role to cast. She's a goddess of war and wisdom, and should theoretically project a certain level of strength and gravitas that I'm not certain Zendaya can reach. On the other hand, she's also a virgin goddess, something that I don't think a more mature actress could really capture.
I guess we'll see.
I guess we'll see.
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Claude! said:
I think Athena is a difficult role to cast. She's a goddess of war and wisdom, and should theoretically project a certain level of strength and gravitas that I'm not certain Zendaya can reach. On the other hand, she's also a virgin goddess, something that I don't think a more mature actress could really capture.
I guess we'll see.
Also, just looking like you're from the Mediterranean would be a plus. Just look at their paintings/sculptures and cast actors who look kind of in the ballpark. I get that I'm in the minority for caring about that, but just makes it more immersive. Troy, but starring The Rock as Achilles and Danny Trejo as Hector might have been entertaining, but wouldn't necessarily transport me to the world of the Greeks.
I can see the argument, but don't terribly mind it in the context of this story. Yes, the major players are Greek/Achaean, but it's also a mythological story so I'm okay with hiring stars who might not entirely fit the expected profile.
But you're right - Danny Trejo would make an awful Hector, especially with Noel Gugliemi is right there and has tons of experience as Hector.
But you're right - Danny Trejo would make an awful Hector, especially with Noel Gugliemi is right there and has tons of experience as Hector.
Cliff.Booth said:
Troy, but starring The Rock as Achilles and Danny Trejo as Hector might have been entertaining, but wouldn't necessarily transport me to the world of the Greeks.
The Rock could have played Ajax, and I wouldn't have blinked.
Cliff.Booth said:Claude! said:
I think Athena is a difficult role to cast. She's a goddess of war and wisdom, and should theoretically project a certain level of strength and gravitas that I'm not certain Zendaya can reach. On the other hand, she's also a virgin goddess, something that I don't think a more mature actress could really capture.
I guess we'll see.
Also, just looking like you're from the Mediterranean would be a plus. Just look at their paintings/sculptures and cast actors who look kind of in the ballpark. I get that I'm in the minority for caring about that, but just makes it more immersive. Troy, but starring The Rock as Achilles and Danny Trejo as Hector might have been entertaining, but wouldn't necessarily transport me to the world of the Greeks.
Except Brad Pitt doesn't look like a Greek from that era. They actually mocked the Persians for having light skin.
That's untrue. His ancestry isn't Greek, but he passes for it. No one who watched Troy thought Pitt didn't work as Achilles physically, be serious. Take 5 seconds on Google images and compare Brad Pitt to classical depictions of Achilles and Zendaya to Athena.
Athena was definitely hot.
Cliff.Booth said:
Xanthos doesn't mean either of those things, it means "light in color." To a Greek person living in Homer's time, it easily could have meant multiple shades of brown or even grey.
It doesn't really matter in the long run, we're splitting hairs (pun intended) over a character whose mother is a "sea nymph" according to the text of the Iliad, so not exactly following some clear line of provable genetics.
You're wrong, again. He was a fair-skinned Mediterranean dude with blonde hair. Weird of people to retrospectively think Ancient Greeks were brown.
But speaking of hot, also huge that the makers of Troy cast peak Diane Kruger as Helen.
If they made it today we really would get Zendaya as Helen, which is not gonna launch a thousand ships.
But speaking of hot, also huge that the makers of Troy cast peak Diane Kruger as Helen.
If they made it today we really would get Zendaya as Helen, which is not gonna launch a thousand ships.
This is going to be a cool ass movie, though. Just nitpicking casting and stuff. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this a lot.
Cliff.Booth said:
That's untrue. His ancestry isn't Greek, but he passes for it. No one who watched Troy thought Pitt didn't work as Achilles physically, be serious. Take 5 seconds on Google images and compare Brad Pitt to classical depictions of Achilles and Zendaya to Athena.
The Greeks viewed white skin as cowardly or feminine. Men were supposed to have dark olive skin.
Sapper Redux said:Cliff.Booth said:
That's untrue. His ancestry isn't Greek, but he passes for it. No one who watched Troy thought Pitt didn't work as Achilles physically, be serious. Take 5 seconds on Google images and compare Brad Pitt to classical depictions of Achilles and Zendaya to Athena.
The Greeks viewed white skin as cowardly or feminine. Men were supposed to have dark olive skin.
Never argue with Cliff, it's just dumb to think you know better.
this would be the perfect Greek Goddess
Daniella Halfon.
Daniella Halfon.
Not sure how you think you're making a movie set in Greece without the greatest Greek actor of all time.
Sapper Redux said:Cliff.Booth said:
That's untrue. His ancestry isn't Greek, but he passes for it. No one who watched Troy thought Pitt didn't work as Achilles physically, be serious. Take 5 seconds on Google images and compare Brad Pitt to classical depictions of Achilles and Zendaya to Athena.
The Greeks viewed white skin as cowardly or feminine. Men were supposed to have dark olive skin.
True. And Menelaus was an auburn haired spartan, favored by ares, no? Whatever they were, zendaya ain't it.
All the photographs the Greeks took of Athena back then made her look pretty white.
CharleyKerfeld said:
All the photographs the Greeks took of Athena back then made her look pretty white.
You're absolutely right - looks nothing like Zendaya.
Claude! said:CharleyKerfeld said:
All the photographs the Greeks took of Athena back then made her look pretty white.
You're absolutely right - looks nothing like Zendaya.
Is that the metal owl from Clash of the Titans?
A 5-minute, 47-second prologue of ‘THE ODYSSEY’ will be attached to IMAX 70mm screenings of ‘SINNERS’ and ‘ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER’ on December 12.
— Film Crave (@_filmcrave) November 28, 2025
A truncated version will then be shown right before ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’.
🔗 https://t.co/oKRZ2MuH4d pic.twitter.com/bSoViLLPzH
The trailer for Christopher Nolan’s ‘THE ODYSSEY’ that is attached to ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’ reportedly has a 1min and 52sec runtime.
— Nolan Archive (@NolanAnalyst) November 29, 2025
(via @DanielRPK) pic.twitter.com/faq4CpdZ8c
One of my all-time movie highlights is watching the prologue for The Dark Knight - the Joker's bank heist with the school buses - on IMAX, getting so into it that I forgot that wasn't the movie I was actually there to see, and then drawing a complete blank on what movie I was there to see (I Am Legend) until it started.
While waiting for my Uber home at the Burbank airport, I just stood next to Hoyte van Hoytema, Christopher Nolan's Oscar-winning cinematographer. He shot Interstellar, Dunkirk, Tenet, Oppenheimer, and most recently wrapped The Odyssey. Pretty cool to see him a week or so before the new trailer drops. He's not only one of the best to ever do it, he's basically one of the world's leading experts on IMAX too.
TCTTS said:
While waiting for my Uber home at the Burbank airport, I just stood next to Hoyte van Hoytema, Christopher Nolan's Oscar-winning cinematographer. He shot Interstellar, Dunkirk, Tenet, Oppenheimer, and most recently wrapped The Odyssey. Pretty cool to see him a week or so before the new trailer drops. He's not only one of the best to ever do it, he's basically one of the world's leading experts on IMAX too.
Okay, now you're just making up people with ridiculous names.
TCTTS said:A 5-minute, 47-second prologue of ‘THE ODYSSEY’ will be attached to IMAX 70mm screenings of ‘SINNERS’ and ‘ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER’ on December 12.
— Film Crave (@_filmcrave) November 28, 2025
A truncated version will then be shown right before ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’.
🔗 https://t.co/oKRZ2MuH4d pic.twitter.com/bSoViLLPzHThe trailer for Christopher Nolan’s ‘THE ODYSSEY’ that is attached to ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’ reportedly has a 1min and 52sec runtime.
— Nolan Archive (@NolanAnalyst) November 29, 2025
(via @DanielRPK) pic.twitter.com/faq4CpdZ8c
Do we know is this is playing anywhere in Houston?
jamesagg said:TCTTS said:A 5-minute, 47-second prologue of ‘THE ODYSSEY’ will be attached to IMAX 70mm screenings of ‘SINNERS’ and ‘ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER’ on December 12.
— Film Crave (@_filmcrave) November 28, 2025
A truncated version will then be shown right before ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’.
🔗 https://t.co/oKRZ2MuH4d pic.twitter.com/bSoViLLPzHThe trailer for Christopher Nolan’s ‘THE ODYSSEY’ that is attached to ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’ reportedly has a 1min and 52sec runtime.
— Nolan Archive (@NolanAnalyst) November 29, 2025
(via @DanielRPK) pic.twitter.com/faq4CpdZ8c
Do we know is this is playing anywhere in Houston?
Houston has no 70mm theaters
TriAg2010 said:
Athena should be at least Matt Damon's contemporary. Someone like Nicole Kidman.
Go Greek and pick Jennifer Aniston.
TCTTS said:A 5-minute, 47-second prologue of ‘THE ODYSSEY’ will be attached to IMAX 70mm screenings of ‘SINNERS’ and ‘ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER’ on December 12.
— Film Crave (@_filmcrave) November 28, 2025
A truncated version will then be shown right before ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’.
🔗 https://t.co/oKRZ2MuH4d pic.twitter.com/bSoViLLPzHThe trailer for Christopher Nolan’s ‘THE ODYSSEY’ that is attached to ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’ reportedly has a 1min and 52sec runtime.
— Nolan Archive (@NolanAnalyst) November 29, 2025
(via @DanielRPK) pic.twitter.com/faq4CpdZ8c
I would trust the latest Nolan Archive update below over the older/contradicting reporting in the first tweet above. Still no official announcement either way, but it's definitely happening. It's just a matter of when the full prologue debuts - in theaters this coming Thursday with One Battle After Another/Sinners (exclusive to 70mm IMAX) or the Thursday after with Avatar (in all IMAX theaters). But it sounds like it'll be with Avatar in IMAX regardless, and not a truncated version...
The prologue of ‘THE ODYSSEY’, lasting 5 minutes and 27 seconds, will be screened from December 19 ahead of IMAX showings of ‘AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH’ pic.twitter.com/0kgFyyBSSt
— Nolan Archive (@NolanAnalyst) December 5, 2025
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