I'm mostly with you and in agreement.

But the simple fact is that "put up or shut up" will ultimately require a whistleblower fully willing to not just spend the rest of their life in prison, but to potentially subject themselves to the death penalty.

Which is obviously a MASSIVE ask/sacrifice.

When we complain about these guys not providing irrefutable proof, what we're really complaining about is them not being willing to die for the cause or spend the rest of their lives in prison, which I feel is unfair.

Lue snafus aside, they're doing the best they can within the limits of the law and the papers they've signed.

And in some case, as with Grusch, they're already risking their lives and the safety of their families.

So I don't know what the solution is.

Maybe, at some point, if enough of them were to come forward - together - with irrefutable proof, their efforts would be so monumental/undeniable that the public uproar at sending them all to prison would be so great that they're ultimately excused?

But that's obviously a huge gamble that a number of people with families would have to be willing to take, and I just don't see that happening anytime soon.

Why are we assuming that someone who provides real disclosure would spend their life in prison or maybe even die? I've seen that kind of stated as just a assumption of fact, but why would that be?

Proof is inherently elusive if this is material and "spiritual" together - a photograph, for instance, is IMO always suspect if the edges of the craft are not "blurry," an opinion I'm definitely not alone in. Dimensions and realms, real material bleeding into our materialist understanding, as Garry Nolan and Tim Taylor have suggested.

Elizondo:
a human, which means lies and / or mistakes. Assume he's lying. Assume he's a disinfo agent.

Yet remember officials saying they don't know what those "drones" were … many documented cases, all over the world, of nuclear facility disengagements …so many testimonies with commonalities …. many videos of somethings breaking our known laws of physics….so many credible cases of underwater somethings breaking of the laws…

Lies, disinfo, money grabbing and grifters, secret tech that is ours, alien-human cooperation, AND God and evil and good powers, AND other creations such as aliens, AND other dimensions / realms …

Yes

If true, this is the highest classified secret in our government. Leaking documents, photographs, or video of that level would be treason. It would be Snowden on steroids. And attempting to leak such proof without being caught would defeat the entire purpose, seeing as the credibility of the leaker is almost as important as the leak itself. The public would need to KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the materials came from a legit source. Otherwise, if the proof is, say, a video, it would just be circulated on YouTube or whatever and even if incredibly compelling, wouldn't have the stamp of approval from an official government source needed to help convince the public of its authenticity.

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I'm mostly with you and in agreement.

But the simple fact is that "put up or shut up" will ultimately require a whistleblower fully willing to not just spend the rest of their life in prison, but to potentially subject themselves to the death penalty.

Which is obviously a MASSIVE ask/sacrifice.

When we complain about these guys not providing irrefutable proof, what we're really complaining about is them not being willing to die for the cause or spend the rest of their lives in prison, which I feel is unfair.

Lue snafus aside, they're doing the best they can within the limits of the law and the papers they've signed.

And in some case, as with Grusch, they're already risking their lives and the safety of their families.

So I don't know what the solution is.

Maybe, at some point, if enough of them were to come forward - together - with irrefutable proof, their efforts would be so monumental/undeniable that the public uproar at sending them all to prison would be so great that they're ultimately excused?

But that's obviously a huge gamble that a number of people with families would have to be willing to take, and I just don't see that happening anytime soon.

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Part of me feels like the government kind of wants the truth out there, that's why this stuff is being spoonfed to us a drop at a time.

Yeah, it sounds like there are factions within the government. There's apparently a younger group (like Gen X on down) who wants disclosure, and is potentially responsible for some of the spoon-feeding, but the boomers are the ones trying desperately to keep a lid on it. I'm sure it's not that clean-cut, but that's the vibe some people have mentioned.

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If true, this is the highest classified secret in our government. Leaking documents, photographs, or video of that level would be treason. It would be Snowden on steroids. And attempting to leak such proof without being caught would defeat the entire purpose, seeing as the credibility of the leaker is almost as important as the leak itself. The public would need to KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the materials came from a legit source. Otherwise, if the proof is, say, a video, it would just be circulated on YouTube or whatever and even if incredibly compelling, wouldn't have the stamp of approval from an official government source needed to help convince the public of its authenticity.

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But this assumes that the only people in the entire world that have anything credible to offer just happen to be people in the military who happen to be bound by classified rules or whatever. That's part of the problem here. You mean to tell me that with all of the supposed sightings happening all over the world, none of them are ever happening to civilians who can actually provide something compelling? That's a logical flaw in the big picture of this issue IMO.

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If true, this is the highest classified secret in our government. Leaking documents, photographs, or video of that level would be treason. It would be Snowden on steroids. And attempting to leak such proof without being caught would defeat the entire purpose, seeing as the credibility of the leaker is almost as important as the leak itself. The public would need to KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the materials came from a legit source. Otherwise, if the proof is, say, a video, it would just be circulated on YouTube or whatever and even if incredibly compelling, wouldn't have the stamp of approval from an official government source needed to help convince the public of its authenticity.

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But this assumes that the only people in the entire world that have anything credible to offer just happen to be people in the military who happen to be bound by classified rules or whatever. That's part of the problem here. You mean to tell me that with all of the supposed sightings happening all over the world, none of them are ever happening to civilians who can actually provide something compelling? That's a logical flaw in the big picture of this issue IMO.

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I thought we were talking about proof?

Otherwise, IMO, "compelling" doesn't ultimately move the needle.

I'm genuinely curious, what do you envision a civilian releasing to the public that would prove the existence of an alien* presence on Earth? Because short of clear, close-up footage of "biologics" themselves - not just bodies, but bodies walking and moving around - along with, say, corroborating physical evidence taken from a craft, I just can't imagine anything a civilian releasing that would undeniably prove the existence of aliens* and lead to disclosure.

Even then there would still be questions without corroborating documentation, a group of credible/trustworthy witnesses backing up the claims, third-party scientific tests, Hollywood computer effects experts analyzing the footage, etc.

Now, if Jake Barber and his Skywatcher team are able to summon a gravity-defying craft and capture it on video, close up, from multiple angles, and corroborate the event/footage with all the other instrumentation, witnesses, and scientists they have at their disposal, I definitely think that would cause an uproar. It would make headline news for sure, on a global level, and back our government into a corner, no doubt.

But even those guys are technically ex-government whistleblowers and not true, independent civilians.

Otherwise, a bonafide government/military leak from undeniably credible/trustworthy sources stating beyond a shadow of a doubt that we have a crash retrieval/reverse engineering program, while simultaneously offering corroborating proof across myriad sources - government documents, military videos of "biologics," military photographs, and some kind of physical proof in the form of scientifically tested evidence from a craft - is about the only scenario I can imagine leading to disclosure.

Short of a mass sighting involving thousands of people or aliens* landing on the White House lawn, of course.

(* I use an asterisk only because I'm starting to believe more and more that, if real, these things have potentially been on Earth longer than even we have.)

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I'm genuinely curious, what do you envision a civilian releasing to the public that would prove the existence of an alien* presence on Earth? Because short of clear, close-up footage of "biologics" themselves - not just bodies, but bodies walking and moving around - along with, say, corroborating physical evidence taken from a craft, I just can't imagine anything a civilian releasing that would undeniably prove the existence of aliens* and lead to disclosure.

Even then there would still be questions without corroborating documentation, a group of credible/trustworthy witnesses backing up the claims, third-party scientific tests, Hollywood computer effects experts analyzing the footage, etc.

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Objectively, it is only going to be increasingly more difficult for people to find proof believable as rapidly as AI is developing for content creation.

Exactly. Which is why corroborating instrumentation/documentation/witnesses/physical evidence will be so key. Something a lone civilian or two doesn't typically have access to, but government, military, and ex-military do.

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🚨#BREAKING Eric Davis, in front of Avi Loeb, Tim Gallaudet, and @LueElizondo, just told @RepEricBurlison & @RepTimBurchett that 4' gray (grey) aliens were the species of alien that crashed at Roswell‼️Heads up @PaulTiberius #roswell #alien #aliens #ufo #Uap #coverup pic.twitter.com/r17AmHvQqx

— All Things Unexplained (@ATUnexplained) May 1, 2025

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The Eric Davis comments to me are more important than all of the "whistle blowers" to date. Including Malmgren and its not even close.

A lot of information came out today. Davis seems to have some in-depth information about the hierarchy and the internal workings of the government operations. I was impressed by his testimony.

This is the biggest information I have come across. He is either incredibly intelligent to the point he has lost his mind, or he has real in-depth experience. Getting into 4 alien species. It would be good if he provided some tangible proof. Regardless,, the entertainment value is off the charts with this guy.

I mean if this is real, why is this not bigger news? I would suspect someone of his accomplishments would be respected by the news media. Almost everyone had no idea this went down today. He should be the star of the UAP community.

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I still read this forum all the time because it's funny as hell, but don't post because it's a waste of time. But I just don't see how you can be serious. You want to know why? Try moving this topic out from between the "Star Wars discussion thread" and the "***HACKS*** (HBO Max series)" threads into the actual news forum. This is a tiny bubble of people utterly divorced from reality. This is fantasy entertainment and a semi-religious cult.

There are no aliens flying around Earth and no one who is serious and sane would ever waste time with this. It's people telling stories and providing pictures of irrigation circles, airplanes, and green video of eggs on strings and then telling you about their new books and documentaries.

You've got people here who actually "research" things like the airplane getting zapped from the sky as though there's any chance that might be real. Were you guys just not even born with a bull**** filter? Here's a hint: Star Trek is not real, and there are no alien bases all over Earth. You'd think sharing a side with Redstone and previously Spidey (Now THERE'S someone who may have flown away to the stars) among others would make people have some self-awareness and say "Holy ****, maybe we ARE crazy", but nope, I guess just double down and claim everyone else is just not as enlightened. Or even better, that everyone is a paid government agent out to get you. I mean, now Bigfoot is part of this and Adam and Eve landed on the Earth 6000 years ago? Holy crap, at least the comedy is off the charts.

You guys clearly get up every morning and read the alien forums and search YouTube for new alien videos and read alien books and then watch alien documentaries as you go to sleep, you bury yourselves in it 24 hours a day, and then actually wonder why normal people don't see aliens everywhere like you do. I openly laughed at that picture Elizondo showed when it was first posted, as any sane human should have. How are you guys that are supposed to be so "enlightened" the ones who are so gullible and blind?

Look, it's all harmless, it's fun to talk and fantasize about, and any intellectual person should be curious about our place in the universe and the context of our existence. But when it comes to honestly not understanding why Insectoid aliens flying around Earth is not "Big News" then you probably ought to go outside for a while and get some air.

Alright, now let's get back to stories about nuking aliens and Kennedy being killed because of aliens.

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You clearly got up this morning and decided to write a book about something you say you don't care about. Its a waste of time reading what you decided to put a good few hours into. You are the one that needs to get some fresh air after writing that pile of hateful cr*p over something that you say you don't care about . Although somehow you do care as you spent some time on that cr*p.

I am not saying I believe there are any aliens or anything else supernatural. But I am curious about those things, enjoy learning about things and why people believe certain things, and it is entertainment whetehr it is true or not. Why do people read fantasy books about dungeons and dragons or wizards or demons, its interesting to them. If you go look at my post history, I am much closer to your side over all of this. Even if it is all debunked, it is still a fun rabbit hole and why not enjoy the ride down that rabbit hole.

But then again, why go out of your way like you did to criticize and insult something you know little to nothing about.

The Eric Davis interview is interesting. The guy has a PHD in astrophysics, is a nuclear physicist, and he likely has lost his mind. That is probably the story in itself. He is no country doctor or government employee that stumbled across a misplaced war games folder. Someone at his level that lost his mind or decided to BS three US congressman sitting within 3 feet of each other to the level he did is a fascinating story in itself, at least to me it is. But maybe he is telling the truth, I can't definitively say either way.

And Redstone is the man! Nothing but props for redstone. You may not agree or believe him, but he is well researched, and his writing prose is unique and appreciated.

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You're not saying you believe this stuff but you still wonder why it's not big news?

By all means please, all of you carry on, as I said, this is some of the funniest stuff on the web. And I'll keep an eye out for Redstone's research paper on Bigfoot and Eve riding around in summoned spaceships.

Disclosure is not coming from our side. The only groups with the power to provide a full and compelling disclosure have an incentive not to do so. Anyone who can provide partial disclosure will be compromised, marginalized, or eliminated.

But you touched on some of what I'm touching on. If these things are as common as we are led to believe, there would be some nass sightings, and there would be some civilians with good equipment getting absolute Crystal clear video and or even recovering biologics. Calling the news instead of calling the military. It's just a logical inconsistency in my opinion to assume that the only people ever coming into contact are people that already have government clearances.

And not only that, apparently it's not just like that in America, but it's like that all over the world? Governments are somehow the only people ever getting the good stuff? You can see why this is a bridge too far for most people.

So to reiterate, I'm relatively open-minded and rooting for a lot of this to be true. But there's a window of opportunity before people are just going to completely dismiss the movement, and I think that window is closing pretty quick. You can only have big talk with no results for so long.

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And not only that, apparently it's not just like that in America, but it's like that all over the world? Governments are somehow the only people ever getting the good stuff? You can see why this is a bridge too far for most people.

So to reiterate, I'm relatively open-minded and rooting for a lot of this to be true. But there's a window of opportunity before people are just going to completely dismiss the movement, and I think that window is closing pretty quick. You can only have big talk with no results for so long.

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I totally agree. The last year or two I got roped back into the UFO stuff b/c it felt like the tide was turning- pilots were speaking out, there was video, and I seemed as if we were being prepared for something. But it is starting feel oke a scam. Maybe b/c some of the people doing the most talking are grifters and it spoils the real stuff? IDK.

How exactly can one explain or mass "prove" the blending of the physical and the metaphysical? How could we do so for our own nature as embodied spirits that will eventually leave the physical plain?

Disclosure for most is subjective in this way - experiencers don't doubt, and neither do most NDE survivors. Objective realities, unimaginable, better understood via the personal.

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But you touched on some of what I'm touching on. If these things are as common as we are led to believe, there would be some nass sightings,and there would be some civilians with good equipment getting absolute Crystal clear video and or even recovering biologics. Calling the news instead of calling the military. It's just a logical inconsistency in my opinion to assume that the only people ever coming into contact are people that already have government clearances.

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"... the only people ever coming into contact are people that already have government clearances."

Literally no one is saying this. That's a conclusion you're jumping to.

"If these things are as common as we are led to believe, there would be some nass sightings..."

Who has led you to believe these are that common? From where are you inferring this? Again, no one is saying craft regularly appear over civilian airspace. While most military sightings are highly aided by military detection equipment (radar, FLIR, thermal, satellite, etc) and are happening primarily over our oceans and in the vicinity of nuclear sites, two places civilians don't frequent.

"... and there would be some civilians with good equipment getting absolute Crystal clear video and or even recovering biologics."

I'm sorry, but the chances of a civilian recovering biologics are slim to none. How on Earth (no pun intended) would a civilian go about doing this? Especially when there are only rare instances of reports from civilians seeing actual, flesh-and-blood "biologics" outside of abduction scenarios.

As for "crystal clear video," if you watched the latest Skywatcher video, these craft are seemingly often keeping their distance when they know they're being monitored/observed by sensitive equipment. Otherwise, in your imagination, who are these civilians who are either constantly monitoring the skies with high def camera equipment, radar, satellite, and the like, or are seeing these things close up all the time but are somehow failing to record them with their phones? Because I don't know of anyone doing at least the former outside of, say, the Skinwalker Ranch team, and their findings are pretty damn compelling if you care to look into them.

Over in the Louisiana swamps there have probably been a lot of civilians recovering aliens bodies...only they take them home and fry them and eat 'em for supper

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And not only that, apparently it's not just like that in America, but it's like that all over the world? Governments are somehow the only people ever getting the good stuff? You can see why this is a bridge too far for most people.

Governments (ours, in particular) are the only entities with the national safety motivations/interest, money, resources, manpower, highly advanced equipment, etc who are regularly able to document these craft/occurrences. And only in the last 20 years or so has their tech evolved to do so on a more accurate/regular basis. Again, in your mind, who are these civilians who match these same detection criteria?

So to reiterate, I'm relatively open-minded and rooting for a lot of this to be true. But there's a window of opportunity before people are just going to completely dismiss the movement, and I think that window is closing pretty quick. You can only have big talk with no results for so long.

Ultimately, this is irrelevant. If real, the phenomenon doesn't depend on public interest to exist. It doesn't need this thread, or however many whistleblowers, congressional hearings, documentaries, or books to continue doing whatever it's doing. In other words, I don't know why some of you are so intent on trying to force the phenomenon and the people claiming its existence to be revealed on your watch. I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but no one cares if you lose interest. Go right ahead. If real, the phenomenon will be disclosed when it's disclosed and there's nothing you or I can do about it.

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I'm led to believe they are that common by the people saying that there is a mountain of evidence. Maybe there is, but if there is, it's weird that it's always only collected by people sworn to secrecy.

So I'm just saying, for the general public, casual observer, the window of caring about any of this is closing fast, and I think the people that supposedly have the goods need to realize that, because every day that goes by with more talk and no evidence and more pictures of crops being shared by the guy who is leading the charge here, the more people will just laugh it off.

I'm not one of the people laughing it all off, but I am someone that became super interested but is quickly losing interest as things continue to be fruitless and people like Lue embarrass themselves by sharing pics that haven't been vetted.

The optics right now are trending the wrong direction is all I'm saying.

To your final point, if real then freaking show us it's real. It's turned into too much of a tease at this point. They did a good job of getting some public support but I just think their goal, disclosure, is going to get harder and harder to achieve the longer it takes. It will be harder to get government people to jump on board when they have embarrassing moments like this recent one holding them back.

Anyway I'm not picking on you, just talking to you because y the one talking to me, essentially. I'm enjoying discussing it all. It's just my humble analysis that the goal of disclosure, is any of it is legit, was gaining momentum, and I feel like we're at a point where now it's going the other way. They have to be really careful not to turn their own movement into a cartoon, because as you know, they need widespread support of they are going to succeed.

Again, we're back to my original point. Because "freaking show us it's real" undeniably requires someone willing to spend their life in prison, if not be given the death penalty, and right now no one is willing to do so, and who the hell are we to ask someone to do so? That's such an entitled thing to demand. In the meantime, these guys are doing the best they can, are already risking their safety, and if you and whoever else lose interest, so ****ing be it. No one needs you to believe.

Calm down my man, just talking about the overall vibe of this.

Again, you're reading into things. I'm beyond calm. I'm simply A) explaining that a number of these guys are already risking life and limb, doing the best they can within the limits of the law, something you don't seem to appreciate, and B) countering the number of times you've implied that public opinion matters, big picture.

I have a question. If these agencies are so nefarious they would go all the way to murder to keep the alien secret, why are guys like Lue and Corbell still alive? They have made it pretty clear that they are getting info from inside sources...so if the agencies can't find the sources, why let these guys keep putting out info they'd like to stay secret?

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As for "crystal clear video," if you watched the latest Skywatcher video, these craft are seemingly often keeping their distance when they know they're being monitored/observed by sensitive equipment.

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This makes me suspicious. To my skeptical brain, it's a convenient excuse. It forgives them from having to produce proof beyond "trust me, ive seen it"

Neither Lue nor Corbell have revealed/distributed anything illegal. Everything they've done has been within the boundaries of the law, they've found legal loopholes here and there, etc. Granted, that might change with the latest whistleblower Corbell has brought forward, but as of now they haven't technically broken any laws.

That, and as they've said numerous times, putting their faces out there and going public is how most of these guys help protect themselves. If, say, Grusch had been murdered (or even "suicided") after he came forward, that would only lend credence to the fact that someone was trying to shut him up, and thus there was a secret worth protecting. That said, there is literal proof that he was being smeared, threatened, and intimidated.

Also, again, those in the know, within the government, aren't a monolith. They're not all against these guys and are likely even aiding them in some ways.

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As for "crystal clear video," if you watched the latest Skywatcher video, these craft are seemingly often keeping their distance when they know they're being monitored/observed by sensitive equipment.

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This makes me suspicious. To my skeptical brain, it's a convenient excuse. It forgives them from having to produce proof beyond "trust me, ive seen it"

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I realize that, but this is something we delved into a ton a few weeks ago. The Skywatcher gang themselves has literally given a "put up or shut up" date, and have essentially said, "don't trust our word, let us show you." Given that, I'm willing to let their experiment play out.

I just watched this myself, and cannot recommend enough Richard Dolan's latest video (with a 1h 12m runtime), in which he summarizes these events from the past week…

- George Knapp's and Jeremy Corbell's part one interview with whistleblower Matthew Brown.

- Joe Rogan's interview with Hal Puthoff.

- The congressional briefing testimony of Eric Davis.

… in bullet point fashion, with all kinds of additional, level-headed context.

I get the frustration with there being no proof yet (personally, I'm not expecting anything undeniable for quite some time), but between the above and Jesse Michels' interview with Harold Malmgren a couple weeks back, man, there sure does seem to be an onslaught of compelling, corroborative information from credible sources as of late...

Joes, I hope you went outside this weekend for some air. You are a toxic poster. But more so you are not funny and slow witted, your Bigfoot and Eve comment and other attempts at jokes were simple.

Also you say you don't care? Yet you obviously do care, as you spent a good morning writing paragraphs of insults.. your time isn't worth sh8t is also apparent. I guess it feels good for you to unleash some of that toxicity you have from being a miserable person onto others.

you will waste more of your time that is not worth sh8t replying to this that you say you don't care about.

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Proof is inherently elusive if this is material and "spiritual" together - a photograph, for instance, is IMO always suspect if the edges of the craft are not "blurry," an opinion I'm definitely not alone in. Dimensions and realms, real material bleeding into our materialist understanding, as Garry Nolan and Tim Taylor have suggested.

Elizondo:
a human, which means lies and / or mistakes. Assume he's lying. Assume he's a disinfo agent.

Lies, disinfo, money grabbing and grifters, secret tech that is ours, alien-human cooperation, AND God and evil and good powers, AND other creations such as aliens, AND other dimensions / realms …

Yes

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Agreed on humans meaning lies and mistakes. We are deeply flawed, and many are money grubbing grifters like you said. I've met and know several that will sell their soul for money. Many of the UFO grifters are readily apparent.

I saw on Greer's interview with Jesse Michels that he said he was offered 2 billion dollars in 1992 to come work on a research team for UFO's. That is ridiculous on so many levels, and just a brazen stupid lie and the audacity it takes for him to expect people to believe him. He could have said a couple of hundred thousand or something back in 1992 which would have been possibly believable, but 2 billion dollars is just pure unharnessed narcissism.

Saw this morning on a newscast that Avi Loeb was pushing for a billion dollars from the government to spend on UAP research and observatories. I wonder how many grifters benefit from that billion. Certainly his Harvard research lab could expect some grants. I would think total disclosure would either produce some irrefutable proof, or it doesn't exist (overwhelming betting odds).

I would expect we do have secret tech, but my expectation would be it is not extraterrestrial sourced. I believe in evil, feel like I sensed it in people a few times in my life. And I would expect beings of higher power and a possible creator to exist given the vastness of the multiple universes and the billions and billions of planets. There is also likely extraterrestrial life forms, but travelling to our planet over several thousands light years for a brief visit would be impossible without folding time and space. AI may be able to regenerate itself to the intelligence needed to solve some of these riddles.

If they can fold time and space, passing through other dimensions and realms, then " material bleeding into our materialist understanding" would not only be likely but expected. If they can do that, then they could probably reduce to no longer visible or exist in a sense that humans or its machines cannot detect.

IMO, and I think I share this with Elon based on what he has said about it, chances are we are in a simulation. There are too many coincidences. A planet with the perfect distance from the sun, composition of the exact percentages of the air, huge quantity of water and resources, the perfect magnetic field, all just seems to fall into place as designed. We could and would still have a creator, a heaven and hell.

Former NASA Chief Flight Surgeon and Air Force Major, Dr. Gregory Rogers, who worked with astronauts on several space shuttle missions, says he was shown security footage by another Air Force major in 1992 depicting the exotic craft levitating in a hangar.

Fantastic reporting by… https://t.co/R3uMiUunVT

— Christopher Sharp (@ChrisUKSharp) May 4, 2025

'Astronauts have discussed UAPs with me,' he said.

'Vehicles that were not part of the human space program, as far as we know, being in near location to the spacecraft.

'Even flying in formation with them is not uncommon. They've seen these things.' https://t.co/zCZTGQf311

— Christopher Sharp (@ChrisUKSharp) May 4, 2025

Astronauts have been followed by UFOs in space, ‘flying in formation’ with our shuttles, former NASA Chief of Aerospace Medicine Dr. Gregory Rogers told me.

Full story:https://t.co/65NjNCv1N9 pic.twitter.com/SJ0eKGBJkN

— Josh Boswell (@JoshTBoswell) May 4, 2025

It’s like «Jesus- F-ing Chist- for crying out loud! It’s right there! All these stories from credible witnesses! Come on already!! It is right there! Just look! ❗️❗️ https://t.co/174F0MKJ4L

— Renate🇳🇴 (@Renate_FE) May 4, 2025

Another retired @NASA and @usairforce official is alleging that the U.S. government is withholding UAP research from Congress and the public.https://t.co/lzD0BrtBSX pic.twitter.com/18PetQVBkS

— Disclosure Party (@disclosureorg) May 4, 2025

At some point relatively soon, if not already, the onus is going to be on the skeptics having to explain why highly credible official after highly credible official has - and continues - to come forward with story after story of our government being in possession of exotic, highly advanced craft almost assuredly not made by man.

We're to the point where it's damn near impossible that all of these officials are involved in a coordinated lie.

So either...

A) some of the smartest and most trustworthy scientists and government officials are all somehow being duped by the most elaborate psyop in the history of our country, which would be a massive story in and of itself...

- or -

B) an advanced interstellar/inter-dimensional intelligence is among us, and likely has been for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years.

Those are your two options.

Why is firsthand testimony about murder accepted in court as evidence of a crime, but firsthand testimony about unconstitutional UFO programs is dismissed or ignored? Is crime legal when it's classified? https://t.co/A5N522wuSH

— Disclosure Party (@disclosureorg) May 4, 2025