Possible Vitello to SF Giants

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AgBQ-00 said:

seems like we might have a rather strange year in SEC baseball


It's been a strange year across several sports. Football of course. College is a mess right now but NFL is in shambles too. It's like all the script writers decided to huff glue together and were like ,"Damn the man! Let's get WEIRD!"
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Luke The Drifter said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

So who on their roster can we go after.. preferably pitchinig


Would you leave Tennessee for A&M right now? If any player is leaving Knoxville, it is to go to a place like Vandy, LSU, Arkansas, UCLA, Florida State, Ole Miss, or Louisville where they can compete for a national title and/or develop themselves into an MLB-caliber player.




Is this a serious response? If so, it's utter bull**** because they can 100% do those at A&M.


It can happen only if the direction of the program takes a 180-degree turn from what we saw last year. I'm hoping it will happen (hope is not a strategy), but I'll need to see it before I believe it. I have some significant PTSD lingering from the train wreck that was the 2025 season.




Last year was definitely a kick in the balls but, you do realize that Ole Miss missed the post-season in 2023 and 2024, right? Louisville also missed it 3 of the last 5 years. UCLA has missed it twice in the last 5 years too. Arkansas and FSU haven't gotten over the hump either in terms of winning in Omaha.

The talent on this roster is as good or better than last year. Earley is a great hitting coach though it remains to be seen if that will translate to being a HC. The coaching staff overall is strong.

Personally, what I saw last year was a new coach finding his footing and a ton of injuries with guys who were pressing to live up to expectations (ie- Jace). I think what we saw with them winning series vs. Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, and Arkansas were far more illustrative of what this team and program has in front of them.
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I absolutely DO NOT
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The baseball gods are still upset at arky for the whole omahogs thing
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I hope you're right!

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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trouble said:

I absolutely DO NOT


Hey oooooohhhhh...I see what you did there.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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swimmerbabe11 said:

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worth restating


How would it be different than the Dec 1-15 transfer window?
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What a day! Vitello to MLB & Sulivan takes a leave of absence...WTH????
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swimmerbabe11 said:

meanwhile...



Hmmmmm….sounds a lot like Urban Meyer. Personal time turns to stepping down then leaving.
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Imagine you are a Tennessee player in the Giants system. You get called up to the bigs to play for... Your college coach.

How crazy is that?!
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trouble said:

I absolutely DO NOT
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Any chances for some portal action from UT or FL in the fall window? December 1-15.
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apylant said:

Any chances for some portal action from UT or FL in the fall window? December 1-15.


They wouldn't be eligible to play for us in the spring based on SEC intra-conference transfer rules.
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BiochemAg97 said:

apylant said:

Any chances for some portal action from UT or FL in the fall window? December 1-15.


They wouldn't be eligible to play for us in the spring based on SEC intra-conference transfer rules.


Is there a difference between baseball and football because Craver was at Mississippi State in 2024?
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MaroonStain said:

BiochemAg97 said:

apylant said:

Any chances for some portal action from UT or FL in the fall window? December 1-15.


They wouldn't be eligible to play for us in the spring based on SEC intra-conference transfer rules.


Is there a difference between baseball and football because Craver was at Mississippi State in 2024?


Spring vs fall. You can do intra-conference transfer in the first window and play immediately, but you lose immediate eligibility if you transfer in the second window.
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Ahhh. Thank you.
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JJxvi said:

The SF Giants are hiring a manager who never played or coached pro baseball ever???


This has disaster written all over it IMHO.

As for the transfer portal players that exit, odd that baseball players would not be immediately eligible on new team like football players?
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BiochemAg97 said:

MaroonStain said:

BiochemAg97 said:

apylant said:

Any chances for some portal action from UT or FL in the fall window? December 1-15.


They wouldn't be eligible to play for us in the spring based on SEC intra-conference transfer rules.


Is there a difference between baseball and football because Craver was at Mississippi State in 2024?


Spring vs fall. You can do intra-conference transfer in the first window and play immediately, but you lose immediate eligibility if you transfer in the second window.


Good info. Thanks for clarifying.
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Sucks to lose a good coach from the college ranks, but glad this gives a sliver of breathing space to every other SEC team
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BreNayPop said:

Sucks to lose a good coach from the college ranks, but glad this gives a sliver of breathing space to every other SEC team


Agreed. Love him, hate him, he made the conference interesting that's for sure.

And even more interested to see if the Vols can keep the momentum up this upcoming season. And how scared the rest of the schools are when the coach search opens up. See how big of a footprint they truly have now when they start looking around.
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I watched this interview of Vitello earlier today and for all his rep I came away very impressed.

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I watched a little of the B Team yesterday, and from that, together with some of Brauny's posts, it's a little more complicated than straight revenue share division.

Under the House settlement, there is a $20.5 million pool mostly for revenue sharing, but you can also increase the number of full ride scholarships to the roster limit; my understanding is that, if you do increase scholarships, then your revenue sharing pool is $18.5 million (essentially, $2 million from revenue sharing is applied to scholarships). A&M chose to increase scholarships, so we are only dividing $18.5 million. Since baseball is getting so many of those scholarships (we've gone from 11.7 to 34, or whatever the roster limit is), we are not giving baseball very much in revenue sharing. We are making up for that by doing all that we can do (within the rules) on NIL. So, baseball players at A&M are getting a full ride, maybe a small slice of revenue sharing, and NIL money.

Surprisingly, not all the big baseball school opted to immediately go to full rides for the roster. The Horns didn't; they are "stair stepping" it over few years. Tennessee is apparently doing the same. So, without everyone getting a full ride, your revenue share becomes a big deal. Vitello wasn't happy that women's basketball players (who all get a full ride) are getting multiple times what his baseball players (many on partial scholarships) are getting in revenue sharing.
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House settlement carefully avoided gender equality sharing but women's basketball appears to bring in more revenue especially due to TV which is where that framework emerged.

I hope that our move to full scholarships for all roster spots is truly helpful and we can drive revenue share and "external" NIL towards true impact players. That means being way too involved with key brands in recognizing potential stars early and helping them get outsized shares of what is basically personal appearance and brand revenue.

I would argue what we have heard so far on A&M's efforts to help athletes build their own brands has been interesting but probably not material. Especially in baseball.
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He cant do any worse than the retread managers that live in baseball.

He left Tenn it seems over revenue sharing which as always boils down to Title IX and womens sports which always take more than they bring in and at Tenn it seems it was womens bball that was getting twice as much money per player.

I know at A&M womens basketball lost 7.4mm and had a profit of 1.3 for a loss of $6.1mm its the same at Texas and other schools where football carries the load. See 2024 below

  • Total operating revenue: $266.4 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Total expenditures: $243.7 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Net surplus: $22.7 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Among individual sports, only the football program (men's) posted a profit:
    • Men's football: Revenue ~ $118.5 million, Expenses ~ $90.8 million, Net ~ $27.7 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Other sports reported losses:
  • Hope it works out for the guy if not he will always have a job at Mizzou as they would hire him yesterday. I used to think he was a dick but realize that is not the case. Tenn is messing up big time letting him leave over money to his players.
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    phatty26 said:

    He cant do any worse than the retread managers that live in baseball.

    He left Tenn it seems over revenue sharing which as always boils down to Title IX and womens sports which always take more than they bring in and at Tenn it seems it was womens bball that was getting twice as much money per player.

    I know at A&M womens basketball lost 7.4mm and had a profit of 1.3 for a loss of $6.1mm its the same at Texas and other schools where football carries the load. See 2024 below

  • Total operating revenue: $266.4 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Total expenditures: $243.7 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Net surplus: $22.7 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Among individual sports, only the football program (men's) posted a profit:
    • Men's football: Revenue ~ $118.5 million, Expenses ~ $90.8 million, Net ~ $27.7 million. https://www.kbtx.com+1
  • Other sports reported losses:
  • Hope it works out for the guy if not he will always have a job at Mizzou as they would hire him yesterday. I used to think he was a dick but realize that is not the case. Tenn is messing up big time letting him leave over money to his players.
    Conference revenue sources are not broken out by sport afaik. You're not wrong on the rest, of course.
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    Jarrin Jay said:

    JJxvi said:

    The SF Giants are hiring a manager who never played or coached pro baseball ever???


    This has disaster written all over it IMHO.

    As for the transfer portal players that exit, odd that baseball players would not be immediately eligible on new team like football players?


    I don't know. If he doesn't do all that well in the majors and gets fired, I'm sure there are plenty of schools that would happily offer him a job.
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    No kidding on the MLB managers. It's a Good Ole Boy club if there ever was one in sports I am convinced. Outside of reffing of course. Some of these ancient hacks it literally boggles the mind how they still have jobs and get them over and over when they fail. Maybe it's not as bad as it used to be but it still is wild to see.

    Injecting people like Vitello can only benefit MLB IMO. Can't really make it worse…
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    ensign_beedrill said:

    Imagine you are a Tennessee player in the Giants system. You get called up to the bigs to play for... Your college coach.

    How crazy is that?!

    Actually, the Giants' first round pick in this year's draft is INF Gavin Kilen from the University of Tennessee.
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    I hate this. DONT DO IT KEVIN. DONT LEAVE COASTAL. STAY!

    (this an endorsement of Kevin Schnall. I like him and I like Coastal)
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    Tough to pass up SEC Money. Here is hoping the Vols do something stupid here.
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    Gameday is at Vanderbilt today. Sign in the crowd

    Tim Corbin would never leave for SF.

    Well done, nerds. Well done.
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    LOYAL AG said:

    Gameday is at Vanderbilt today. Sign in the crowd

    Tim Corbin would never leave for SF.

    Well done, nerds. Well done.


    Probably not but Vandy baseball hasn't been as dominant since the full implementation of NIL which allowed teams to fully fund most of their baseball teams scholarships instead of the 11.7 cap that Vandy circumvented by using the university endowment to fully fund their team.
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    TarponChaser said:

    LOYAL AG said:

    Gameday is at Vanderbilt today. Sign in the crowd

    Tim Corbin would never leave for SF.

    Well done, nerds. Well done.


    Probably not but Vandy baseball hasn't been as dominant since the full implementation of NIL which allowed teams to fully fund most of their baseball teams scholarships instead of the 11.7 cap that Vandy circumvented by using the university endowment to fully fund their team.

    Not sure i agree with hasnt been dominant but yes it effects them differently
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    swimmerbabe11 said:




    I hate this. DONT DO IT KEVIN. DONT LEAVE COASTAL. STAY!

    (this an endorsement of Kevin Schnall. I like him and I like Coastal)

    You're safe!

    Elander has been hired as the new Vols HC. Plus, wasn't Schnall just granted a hefty extension? Or was that a fever dream?

    And now we will see who has the better hitting coach to HC pipeline!
     
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