I'd actually be okay if just Andy came back. He'd be perfect for Buckyball.
Bama gets a former G League player back to their team
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Tuscaloosa judge ruling…. I'm shocked!!!!
F Nate Oats. I hate that greasy piece of sht
Another sad part is Alabama trying to sell the 'he's getting his degree' angle. Cmon man
Blindside05 said:
Tuscaloosa judge ruling…. I'm shocked!!!!
Yeah when I heard that I realized this **** will only make it to the next docket
Not college sports anymore. It's garbage this stuff is even in the atmosphere of the word "college."
Football is just as much of a joke.
Its cool to watch some randos wearing the same logo because i worked my ass for for two degrees, but these guys are no longer students and it's easier and easier than ever to sever the nostalgia and do something more productive and pursue meaningful things.
Football is just as much of a joke.
Its cool to watch some randos wearing the same logo because i worked my ass for for two degrees, but these guys are no longer students and it's easier and easier than ever to sever the nostalgia and do something more productive and pursue meaningful things.
Alternate take here.
The kid tried pro ball and legitimately isn't good enough.
He goes back to Bama to finish his degree and when he shows up, reconnects with Oats and starts talking about how he loved playing at Bama and wishes he wouldn't have gone pro with eligibility remaining.
Oats and Bama look into this on behalf of the kid who is still just a kid who likes ball.
The media is running with this as if Bama is recruiting a pro to play for them, but I'm pretty sure the reality is closer to my story. College athletics definitely has some issues to sort out, but if the kid is legit enrolled in classes and his clock hasn't expired, why shouldn't he be able to play under the current rules?
(All the guys mentioned by Bobinator have expired clocks, and no one has successfully challenged that rule... yet)
The kid tried pro ball and legitimately isn't good enough.
He goes back to Bama to finish his degree and when he shows up, reconnects with Oats and starts talking about how he loved playing at Bama and wishes he wouldn't have gone pro with eligibility remaining.
Oats and Bama look into this on behalf of the kid who is still just a kid who likes ball.
The media is running with this as if Bama is recruiting a pro to play for them, but I'm pretty sure the reality is closer to my story. College athletics definitely has some issues to sort out, but if the kid is legit enrolled in classes and his clock hasn't expired, why shouldn't he be able to play under the current rules?
(All the guys mentioned by Bobinator have expired clocks, and no one has successfully challenged that rule... yet)
AggieEP said:
Alternate take here.
The kid tried pro ball and legitimately isn't good enough.
He goes back to Bama to finish his degree and when he shows up, reconnects with Oats and starts talking about how he loved playing at Bama and wishes he wouldn't have gone pro with eligibility remaining.
Oats and Bama look into this on behalf of the kid who is still just a kid who likes ball.
The media is running with this as if Bama is recruiting a pro to play for them, but I'm pretty sure the reality is closer to my story. College athletics definitely has some issues to sort out, but if the kid is legit enrolled in classes and his clock hasn't expired, why shouldn't he be able to play under the current rules?
(All the guys mentioned by Bobinator have expired clocks, and no one has successfully challenged that rule... yet)
You are advocating for different rules. Which is fine. But he certainly can't play "under the current rules".
bobinator said:
2) If you've played any amount of ANY professional basketball, no matter what level, in an academic year (Sep-Aug), that year counts as one of your five against your eligibility clock. (example: foreign players that have played a couple of seasons would still be eligible)
I like this one, but would offer a small tweak. I would only start running the eligibility clock once the kid hits 18. Since there's no real HS/College equivalent and it's primarily academy based, I don't think you should run the clock on a kid who gets 4-5 end of bench minutes a few times as a 16-17 year old.
The extreme fringe cases who are already getting significant playing time at that age will probably go straight to the draft anyways (i.e., Luka).
Well in a way we did with Agee.
But it just has to be a rule that if you go pro, and play and get paid as a pro, then you're done.
It would be the same whether he went to Europe or straight into the NBA instead of the G League. Once you play college, then go pro, you're done.
But it just has to be a rule that if you go pro, and play and get paid as a pro, then you're done.
It would be the same whether he went to Europe or straight into the NBA instead of the G League. Once you play college, then go pro, you're done.
Blindside05 said:
Tuscaloosa judge ruling…. I'm shocked!!!!
The judge in the Mensah case recused himself because he is a Duke basketball season ticket holder. Not sure the law here but I would think NCAA could use this if Tuesday goes against them. https://t.co/lSXaHqayIF
— Seth Davis (@SethDavisHoops) January 22, 2026
The judge that ruled in Agee's case is class of '02. We maybe need to be a little careful throwing stones here.
Just a thought here. Injecting a new player onto a team more than halfway thru the season could be more destructive than constructive ( for that season).
I want to see the NCAA grow a spine and vacate the game if Bama wins on Saturday. The hearing is on Tuesday, set a precedent now
They're not going to be able to do that. Anything immediately reactive and they'll get killed in court immediately. This year is already a lost cause.
But if they're proactive about it for next year I think it could work.
But if they're proactive about it for next year I think it could work.
I know you're right, but I want to dream! Also I hope every sec team gets the memo and just boos him every second he touches the ball like we did with Brandon Miller
Seems like a pretty straightforward way to handle Charles Bediako if you're the @NCAA:
— Aaron Torres (@Aaron_Torres) January 21, 2026
You've said he isn't eligible. So any game he plays in counts as a loss in the record books for Alabama.
Those losses impact seeding or NCAA Tourney candidacy.
Seems simple to me 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Sadly let it happen then punish
Quicker it happens the quicker we get some regulation that is necessary.
For years people were anti NCAA because of amateurism was pushed and pushed by them
Now they have no course of action due to courts.
While the NCAA made many many mistakes over the last 30 years what is going on now is not even college athletics anymore.
Burn it to the ground and I personally have no qualms if it gets shut down for two or three years entirely to come up with a system that will work in the modern era.
I can always find a golf course or hiking trial on a Saturday. I would miss it but maybe get the love for college sports back and I am a HUGE sports fan.
Quicker it happens the quicker we get some regulation that is necessary.
For years people were anti NCAA because of amateurism was pushed and pushed by them
Now they have no course of action due to courts.
While the NCAA made many many mistakes over the last 30 years what is going on now is not even college athletics anymore.
Burn it to the ground and I personally have no qualms if it gets shut down for two or three years entirely to come up with a system that will work in the modern era.
I can always find a golf course or hiking trial on a Saturday. I would miss it but maybe get the love for college sports back and I am a HUGE sports fan.
taylorswift13_ said:
I know you're right, but I want to dream! Also I hope every sec team gets the memo and just boos him every second he touches the ball like we did with Brandon Miller
I really don't understand this take. Why boo the kid. Go to Indy and boo the NCAA for their ineptitude.
It's not like the kid was on the Spurs playing legit minutes and then Oats calls him up looking for reinforcements.
He spent a couple of miserable years riding buses in the G-League, got no run at all in any NBA games, then went back to Bama to get his degree. Gets to Bama and the idea of playing ball there comes up and now they are challenging it.
By the logic of "boo all guys with professional experience" I guess we should be booing Dominguez? Or the nuance in the Euro ball vs. G-League experience makes that much of a difference for you all?
Also, the opening tweet is awful, makes him look like a super villain.
We should also understand he made a choice. Choices have consequences, consequences sometimes are not what is wanted but is what is. He can get his degree fine, but he signed a pro contract.
Are you related to the Bediakos?
Dominguez has never played college basketball, and was cleared by the NCAA itself. Not by an injunction of a local judge (though that's how Agee was cleared.)
There's very clearly a big difference between playing college ball, declaring yourself eligible for the draft, playing professional basketball, and then coming back to college basketball compared to having played some pro ball first and then entered college.
Once you're in, and you leave, you're done.
Now if we want to talk about whether overseas professional players should be eligible for college basketball, that's a different discussion, but right now they are.
Dominguez has never played college basketball, and was cleared by the NCAA itself. Not by an injunction of a local judge (though that's how Agee was cleared.)
There's very clearly a big difference between playing college ball, declaring yourself eligible for the draft, playing professional basketball, and then coming back to college basketball compared to having played some pro ball first and then entered college.
Once you're in, and you leave, you're done.
Now if we want to talk about whether overseas professional players should be eligible for college basketball, that's a different discussion, but right now they are.
Not related to Bediako at all, nor do I know him or have any dog in this fight.
My point is this, right now the NCAA has some "if then" situations that run contrary to one another.
IF you sign a contract and play professionally abroad, then you maintain NCAA eligibility.
IF you even SIGN an NBA contract, even a 2-way or G-League one, then you are toast and have no eligibility
Situation A is Dominguez and we're totally cool with that, he's not a villain in any sort of way. Situation B is Bediako and we've got folks on here monologuing on the death of college sports. Outside of collusion between the NBA and the NCAA to try and force kids to remain in school rather than chasing their NBA dreams I cannot think of a logical reason why NBA contracts are viewed differently than Euroleague contracts. Both are professional contracts and should be treated equally.
I get the idea of Bediako "making a choice" and forcing him to live with the consequences, but we're not talking about him being like a drug dealer or in charge of a human trafficking ring. He thought he could make it as a pro, and as it turns out he can't. I don't necessarily mind if the NCAA wants to say he can't play, but I don't think it should be because of some sort of "no take backs" rule that punishes him for trying to go pro when we now have dozens of former pro-Europeans scattered across rosters.
TLDR version: In a version of NCAA basketball where pro Euro guys are eligible and top 5-star guys have multi-million dollar "contracts" with their schools, what is the real objection to Bediako who didn't even ever make it on a real pro roster. He surely isn't the one that is ruining the purity of college sports, that happened a long time ago.
My point is this, right now the NCAA has some "if then" situations that run contrary to one another.
IF you sign a contract and play professionally abroad, then you maintain NCAA eligibility.
IF you even SIGN an NBA contract, even a 2-way or G-League one, then you are toast and have no eligibility
Situation A is Dominguez and we're totally cool with that, he's not a villain in any sort of way. Situation B is Bediako and we've got folks on here monologuing on the death of college sports. Outside of collusion between the NBA and the NCAA to try and force kids to remain in school rather than chasing their NBA dreams I cannot think of a logical reason why NBA contracts are viewed differently than Euroleague contracts. Both are professional contracts and should be treated equally.
I get the idea of Bediako "making a choice" and forcing him to live with the consequences, but we're not talking about him being like a drug dealer or in charge of a human trafficking ring. He thought he could make it as a pro, and as it turns out he can't. I don't necessarily mind if the NCAA wants to say he can't play, but I don't think it should be because of some sort of "no take backs" rule that punishes him for trying to go pro when we now have dozens of former pro-Europeans scattered across rosters.
TLDR version: In a version of NCAA basketball where pro Euro guys are eligible and top 5-star guys have multi-million dollar "contracts" with their schools, what is the real objection to Bediako who didn't even ever make it on a real pro roster. He surely isn't the one that is ruining the purity of college sports, that happened a long time ago.
AggieEP said:
Situation A is Dominguez and we're totally cool with that, he's not a villain in any sort of way. Situation B is Bediako and we've got folks on here monologuing on the death of college sports. Outside of collusion between the NBA and the NCAA to try and force kids to remain in school rather than chasing their NBA dreams I cannot think of a logical reason why NBA contracts are viewed differently than Euroleague contracts. Both are professional contracts and should be treated equally.
Big difference there tho in that Dominguez had never played college basketball before this year and bediako had BEFORE he declared for the draft
I would probably argue that under my ideal rules Dominguez would not be eligible. European amateur sports work differently and we need to account for that, but my rule would probably be that you're only eligible to play in the NCAA if you enter before your 21st birthday, and every year you played as a pro counts against your clock.
So you're 20, you played two years of pro ball in (whatever country), that's fine, you're eligible, but you enter as a junior and you have two years left.
The key though is that once you're granted NCAA eligibility, if you give it up, you cannot get it back.
That's the difference here is that Bediako already played college basketball and left. College basketball isn't the G league. That's the whole point of the G league. You get to play college basketball once on your way up the ladder, and then that's it.
That is already the rule on the books, and it's why this Bediako situation is so stupid. But it's also why I don't have as big of an issue with the Baylor situation, because that player did not previously play college basketball. By the current landscape of the rules, he should be eligible.
But Bediako is very obviously not eligible, the NCAA said he's not eligible, and a local judge overturned that ruling. (Now again, we did this same thing with Agee, it is what it is right now, I don't even blame Alabama for doing it, but the NCAA needs to put a stop to it however they can.)
So you're 20, you played two years of pro ball in (whatever country), that's fine, you're eligible, but you enter as a junior and you have two years left.
The key though is that once you're granted NCAA eligibility, if you give it up, you cannot get it back.
That's the difference here is that Bediako already played college basketball and left. College basketball isn't the G league. That's the whole point of the G league. You get to play college basketball once on your way up the ladder, and then that's it.
That is already the rule on the books, and it's why this Bediako situation is so stupid. But it's also why I don't have as big of an issue with the Baylor situation, because that player did not previously play college basketball. By the current landscape of the rules, he should be eligible.
But Bediako is very obviously not eligible, the NCAA said he's not eligible, and a local judge overturned that ruling. (Now again, we did this same thing with Agee, it is what it is right now, I don't even blame Alabama for doing it, but the NCAA needs to put a stop to it however they can.)
I also think the NCAA needs a rule that if you're not on your team's roster by December 31st you're ineligible for that season.
I say December on the off chance that a high school player graduates early and can help a team right away. If that happens I don't see any real problem with it.
Adding a guy that played in a G league game LAST WEEKEND is obviously insane.
I say December on the off chance that a high school player graduates early and can help a team right away. If that happens I don't see any real problem with it.
Adding a guy that played in a G league game LAST WEEKEND is obviously insane.
nelsonagholor said:AggieEP said:
Situation A is Dominguez and we're totally cool with that, he's not a villain in any sort of way. Situation B is Bediako and we've got folks on here monologuing on the death of college sports. Outside of collusion between the NBA and the NCAA to try and force kids to remain in school rather than chasing their NBA dreams I cannot think of a logical reason why NBA contracts are viewed differently than Euroleague contracts. Both are professional contracts and should be treated equally.
Big difference there tho in that Dominguez had never played college basketball before this year and bediako had BEFORE he declared for the draft
It's a difference in their specific situation, but not in the rule that is being applied to Bediako.
The rule specifies a difference between NBA and overseas professional contracts.
In the case of Bediako, the fact that he started playing NCAA basketball started his "clock" that gives him 5 to play 4. His clock runs out at the end of this semester and would have even if he had left Bama to go work as a dancer in Las Vegas for the past 2 years. The NCAA isn't challenging his "clock" they are saying that because he signed a NBA contract he's permanently ineligible to return to play NCAA. And had he signed an NBA contract before going to Bama, he'd be in roughly the same situation if he'd never went to Bama in the first place but instead signed a G-League deal. See below the wording from the NCAA:
"The NCAA has not and will not grant eligibility to any prospective or returning student-athletes who have signed an NBA contract (including a two-way contract)," NCAA president Charlie Baker said in a statement after the Nnaji case made national headlines.
I don't think the rule does specify that at all. I think theoretically Lebron James would be granted eligibility if he applied for it because he's never played college basketball before.
Sorry, I did a ninja edit, read above for the specific language from the NCAA that specifies "prospective or returning" to me that's my hang up.
I'm gonna boo him even harder now
All retired straight-to-nba players should come back to play college ball. Let's go get Kevin Garnet
I don't get how that's your hang up, they've made that very clear that that's the rule
Decay said:
All retired straight-to-nba players should come back to play college ball. Let's go get Kevin Garnet
How are some of you not understanding the rule here?
If you ever at any point in your life sign an NBA contract you are permanently ineligible for the NCAA. No Lebron, no KG. It doesn't matter if you've played college ball first or not, the NCAA has said that NBA contracts are non-starters for them. No leeway. (Under the current rules)
However, if you ever at any point in your life sign a professional basketball contract anywhere else in the world, you're still good to go for the NCAA.
This is an asinine argument. Pro ball = Pro ball no matter if it's here or not. So if Dominguez is eligible so should Bediako. If Bediako is ineligible, then I need a better explanation of how his lame G-league career makes him that much different than professional Europeans.
Dominguez isn't eligible because he didn't play college ball before he played Euroball, he's eligible because his professional contract wasn't an NBA professional contract. The advantage given to the euro guys here is that their clocks aren't starting at 18/19 like US players are.
bobinator said:
I don't get how that's your hang up, they've made that very clear that that's the rule
The hangup is why get all indignant about having "professional players" trying to come play on college when we talk about Bediako when we already have an established pathway that has allowed professional players to play in the NCAA. Not sure why a corrupt rule that differentiates NBA contracts from Euro contracts really makes any sense here.
I don't think there is any real fear of a legit NBA player giving up 10 million plus dollars a year to come play at Kansas, so this situation really only applies to guys who aren't really pro level guys anyway.
I don't think there's a distinction between the two, we just haven't seen a former college player who's gone to Europe try and come back yet. I think you're just assuming there's a difference.
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