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JustPanda
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We have snow for days right now. We were already on a solid 65 inch base and probs caught 12-13 yesterday and 2-3 more already today with a foot expected through Monday.
GarlandAg2012
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Would love to! Just hope we don't bore you or limit you!
GarlandAg2012
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Great Powder day in Park City today. Something like 10" overnight. First successful shrub and bowl runs. Legs on fire. Time for the hot tub.
ChoppinDs40
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How the boots treat ya?

We're headed back to WinterPark in 3 weeks
GarlandAg2012
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Boots were pretty good. I think I need one or two adjustments but overall better than rentals by far. I've put on some covid weight and hadn't skied since then and boy howdy I gotta shed some lbs for Aspen. Just turned my legs to jelly in the pow. Still had a blast though.


JustPanda
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How do you post pictures? Just got up and headed out for a quick sunrise skin before sliding back into the back bowls.
TexasAg93
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GarlandAg2012 said:

Great Powder day in Park City today. Something like 10" overnight. First successful shrub and bowl runs. Legs on fire. Time for the hot tub.
Deer Valley was fantastic as well. 10-12" of super light powder. Enjoy the rest of your trip here in PC.
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JustPanda said:

You can have the liner shaved and the boot punched to fit your foot better once you have them on and knock out a couple runs. Usually takes an overnight for each adjustment
For anyone looking to buy boots, I agree with JustPanda about Surefoot. The Surefoot set up is expensive, but worth every penny.

This reply is late to the game, but anyone looking for skis should also consider the Armada Declivity 92s Tis. I am probably 30 ski days in on a set of the 92s and have skied them in multiple conditions and terrain (groomers, bumps, trees, chutes, ice, crud, and even 12-15" powder). Not ideal for deep powder and like a narrower ski for ice, but they excel everywhere else.

Just bought a set of Grindstone 2.0 by Hinterland Skis for powder days. Small company out of SLC. Highly recommend Hinterland if you like to support small businesses that make high quality products.
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Yesterday
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Just started skiiing last year with the family and enjoyed it. I'm going to need a chart explaining all the acronyms and slang.

I'm a decent golfer (5 handicap) and the different shafts, heads, weight, grinds etc that are custom to golfers and their game reminds me a lot of what you guys are talking about. I feel like I'm the guy showing up with Spalding irons and top flight balls listening to sticks talk about mizuno blades bent 2* with more bounce for softer fairways.

We should keep this thread as a "ski gear" thread because I'm sure the more we ski the better the equipment we'll want.
YZ250
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For those who go the Surefoot route I hope y'all have better luck than what I had. I bought some around 10 years ago and was constantly going in for adjustments. They crammed my foot into to small of a boot. I told them it was too small but they insisted they could make it work. They would fix one problem but it would lead to another. I had enough after about two years after losing a toe nail and not being able to jump without it hurting. My feet were happy when I switched boots. Skis.com used to have the ability to filter boots based on calf size, foot width, wether you have a high arch or flat foot. I did that to narrow down my search and tried some when on ski trips. Found the perfect pair that way.
Pahdz
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Love this thread for ski discussion! Just got back from a 3 day trip to Whitefish. Boy was it a let down to return to my local hill here in Minnesota after 3 days on Big Mountain.

JustPanda
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Losing toe nails is a sign of too much space in the insole between the end of the hard shell and the insole toe bed. The sliding of the toes forward and back against the toe of the boot when in an extended and steeper grades results in a lot of weight being transferred along the top of the foot and into the toes. Probs needed a smaller hard shell and a better fitting insole. Teching a boot is an art and once you shave out liner, it's gone forever.

Another thing for people to remember - the second and third ratchets are the important ones on your boots. The second from the top keeps your heel engaged and pushed back and the top of the foot (3rd from top) holds your foot down and engaged into the foot bed. Between those two, if you toes are touching the end of the boot, once engaged on the hill, you'll be in a performance fit. I fix them down as tight as I can get them and often that means re-tightening once the boots fully buckled.

You do not want to over strap tighten the top buckle. You want it comfortably flush along the calf but not squeezing the calf. When skiers have their toes go numb or "freezing cold", it's usually from cutting off blood flow to the feet via over tightening the top buckle.

I always recommend sizing down on hard sheets especially if you can maintain equivalent insole length. For example, I size at 26.5 and ski a 24.5. I don't want any motion inside the boot that isn't true. It help you embody the cognition between your mind and limbs without delay or error. Smaller boots often are also lighter and shorter along the shin. So if you have hot spots form on the shin (shin bang) or along the ankle, sizing down on the hard shell can help distribute the weight inside the boot into different spaces and counter-intuitively make a significant difference. Space inside a ski boot feels great at the base but wrecks havoc once on a decent grade.
JustPanda
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I also prefer poles 2 inches lower than 90. I prefer them shorter because if you have poles at a true right angle and hit anything or have movement into the pole, there's tendency to hyperextend the elbows as the vibrations pull up the pole and into the elbow joint. If you have shorter poles you can absorb the flex in the forearm before reaching the elbow and push into and through the mountain vs having it push into you and having the mountain flex through your elbow.
YZ250
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I don't believe the shells were too big. They were a 23.5 and my current ones are 26.5. When I did rent they were usually 26.5 or larger. The 23.5s were so tight that I wouldn't buckle the two on the foot until after skiing two runs. If I buckled them right away then my feet did have the cramping/numbing feeling.
JustPanda
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Yeah - boots are a weird creature. Find what works and stick w it.
Yesterday
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JustPanda said:

Losing toe nails is a sign of too much space in the insole between the end of the hard shell and the insole toe bed. The sliding of the toes forward and back against the toe of the boot when in an extended and steeper grades results in a lot of weight being transferred along the top of the foot and into the toes. Probs needed a smaller hard shell and a better fitting insole. Teching a boot is an art and once you shave out liner, it's gone forever.

Another thing for people to remember - the second and third ratchets are the important ones on your boots. The second from the top keeps your heel engaged and pushed back and the top of the foot (3rd from top) holds your foot down and engaged into the foot bed. Between those two, if you toes are touching the end of the boot, once engaged on the hill, you'll be in a performance fit. I fix them down as tight as I can get them and often that means re-tightening once the boots fully buckled.

You do not want to over strap tighten the top buckle. You want it comfortably flush along the calf but not squeezing the calf. When skiers have their toes go numb or "freezing cold", it's usually from cutting off blood flow to the feet via over tightening the top buckle.

I always recommend sizing down on hard sheets especially if you can maintain equivalent insole length. For example, I size at 26.5 and ski a 24.5. I don't want any motion inside the boot that isn't true. It help you embody the cognition between your mind and limbs without delay or error. Smaller boots often are also lighter and shorter along the shin. So if you have hot spots form on the shin (shin bang) or along the ankle, sizing down on the hard shell can help distribute the weight inside the boot into different spaces and counter-intuitively make a significant difference. Space inside a ski boot feels great at the base but wrecks havoc once on a decent grade.


Great info. I was buckling all of our gear tight at the top. My daughter said her toes felt numb. Will do the different next time.

Wife is an athlete. She has bigger calfs than most but skinny ankles. I have her on the last notch in her rossignol Keila 50's. I read these are pretty comfortable for beginner skiers. Can I change out the the buckle to give her more room on the top buckle? These boots only have 3 buckles fyi.
JustPanda
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Usually the buckle will either spin and grow a little or the little teeth where the latch hits the boot will grow and you can move them towards the latch if you push on one side (usually the outside boot side but not always). I wish I knew how to post pictures.
Yesterday
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JustPanda said:

Usually the buckle will either spin and grow a little or the little teeth where the latch hits the boot will grow and you can move them towards the latch if you push on one side (usually the outside boot side but not always). I wish I knew how to post pictures.


I spun the buckle all the way. I wonder if I can get longer joints or whatever these things are called.
JustPanda
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What about the little teeth on the shin? Does it have the ability to extend closer to the latch?
RangerRick9211
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It looks like the women's Rossi boot you see in every store. I don't think it does. You can only adjust the latches themselves.

Also, also, yes yes on the boot fittment. LOCK THE HEEL.
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Hello from Hood.
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JustPanda said:

What about the little teeth on the shin? Does it have the ability to extend closer to the latch?


Teeth have no adjustment. Granted she's only worn them twice so not sure if it will loosen a hair with more wear. We ski ~5-7 days a year so it'll work for that.
TexasAg93
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Panda's advice on using slightly shorter poles is excellent. Shorter poles also help keep the pole plant a little softer, especially in bumpy terrain. Hard pole plants can knock you into the back seat and make it hard to stay facing down the fall line. Has helped me anyway.

TexasAg93
ChoppinDs40
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Nice idea. Post best ski pics!

I'll start with a few
First pic was taken out an airplane window.


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Yesterday
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From last weekend in Park City. First picture is the joy of having a lift 10' from your hotel. Last picture is for anyone that has struggled skiing with kids.


TexasAg93
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I feel your pain but can't beat how special it is. Great thread.
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JustPanda
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How do you post pictures?
ChoppinDs40
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Get TexAgs App. Then you'll see "add image" on reply
ChoppinDs40
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Zermatt and Garmisch



JustPanda
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Snowbank outside my dads (I couldn't get home last night because of the snow) is at least 8-10ft tall. Highest I've seen it since probs 2011. Sadly no real big drops expected for the next 10.
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Chair Peak and Snow Lake from Avalanche Mt. in the Alpental Valley.
JustPanda
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Almost to the back!
TexasAg93
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Deer Valley was spectacular today.

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10andBOUNCE
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I'm thinking Panda needs to host a TexAgs Ski Trip.
 
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