You fo realize we signed our targets not necessarily the toped ranked guys and that was on purpose.

It's not like we whiffed and had to settle. We targeted our guys and got them all for the most part.

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You fo realize we signed our targets not necessarily the toped ranked guys and that was on purpose.

It's not like we whiffed and had to settle. We targeted our guys and got them all for the most part.

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Agree besides Coleman. But staff gets alot of credit we missed on Formby last year and got him this year so someone must be really high on him.

I think the ones griping that we didn't sign Coleman just need to trust the staff. I believe they have earned the right to be trusted. It's not always about stars.

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You fo realize we signed our targets not necessarily the toped ranked guys and that was on purpose.

It's not like we whiffed and had to settle. We targeted our guys and got them all for the most part.

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This isn't about Coleman (don't think Horton is likely as impactful, but also don't think there's a meaningful difference); but wanted to ask you (if you know), do we kick the tires on the top ranked guys if we think the ranking is warranted?

I'm good with Elko's approach re players that are "NIL is my decisive factor", but separate and apart from that, I'm just wondering if we check in w/top ranked guys to gauge interest.

Maybe all the higher ranked guys are "NIL is my decisive factor". I dunno.

As far as I know we identified who we wanted early and had a very high hit rate. We may have kicked the tires but decided they weren't worth the miney or hassle but I haven't heard much on that.

I think Elko was very deliberate on his approach thia offseason.

Jordan Seaton- the best prospect so far to enter the portal (All-American OT at Colorado)- is now on the market.

This kid will make quarterback money wherever he goes. Future first rounder.

Should be a SERIOUS PRIORITY for Elko and the boys. This is where you spend your $.

Don't count on it but we are talking to him.

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Horton is really the only player we have that is comparable and he isn't Coleman.

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Can we not make statements like these? I get it, guys are getting paid regardless and it's just business, but dammit, they are our team and haven't even played a down yet.

How many guys transfered and fizzled? We've had some of our 5 star guys do that going elsewhere.

Welcome to Aggieland men and BTHO everyone.

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Exactly! Horton may not be the specimen Cam is, but he fills a need, is much cheaper, and is still a great player. He may turn out to produce more than Cam.

Here's the list of transfer portal receivers from last year with rankings according to On3

1. Eric Singleton (GT --> Auburn)
2. Zachariah Branch (USC --> Georgia)
3. KC Concepcion (NCSU --> A&M)

I wouldn't take either of those guys above KC

Still a few studs in the portal would love us to go after in the OT, RB(Haynes) and some Edge guys. Seems we did not overspend and might have some money left over. Of course I have no inside sources so I don't know how much money we had to spend and how much is left over.

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Don't count on it but we are talking to him.

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Why don't count on it? I'm sure this is the kind of guy you want on your team.

Because we aren't heavily pursuing anyone else including him.

what kind of self-imposed salary cap are we working with? anyone know? these programs rival pro-sports in terms of what kind of money they rake in so a couple mil for star difference makers should be a no-brainer, yeah?

Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

How much do we actually have?

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vander54 said:

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

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When you break the bank for one player it causes dissension in the locker room and a group of individuals who start to prioritize themselves and getting theirs over the team. See our 2022 recruiting class for an example of this. When you spend wisely on positions of need and the entire team works as a unit you get teams such as this year's Indiana.

so i dont follow the portal that close, but how is it that t.u. is not in the top 70?

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levytrousersEOY said:

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vander54 said:

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

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When you break the bank for one player it causes dissension in the locker room and a group of individuals who start to prioritize themselves and getting theirs over the team. See our 2022 recruiting class for an example of this. When you spend wisely on positions of need and the entire team works as a unit you get teams such as this year's Indiana.

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Someone gets it. This is likely why A&M didn't push all-in on Coleman, too, preferring someone like Horton who wasn't primarily focused on how much money he could make. People seem to forget you have an entire locker room you're responsible to.

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mjhhawk said:

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levytrousersEOY said:

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vander54 said:

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

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When you break the bank for one player it causes dissension in the locker room and a group of individuals who start to prioritize themselves and getting theirs over the team. See our 2022 recruiting class for an example of this. When you spend wisely on positions of need and the entire team works as a unit you get teams such as this year's Indiana.

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Someone gets it. This is likely why A&M didn't push all-in on Coleman, too, preferring someone like Horton who wasn't primarily focused on how much money he could make. People seem to forget you have an entire locker room you're responsible to.

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Just curious, but how do you know Horton wasnt focused solely on money? How do you know Coleman was (I doubt Tech got outbid)?
It seems many here think players who sign with Elko are doing it because they love the Ags and players who sign elsewhere are only chasing dollars.

cause everyone wants to be an Aggie. Didn't you know that?

We were probably a top 5 portal spender this January. We went and got some dudes, and went and spent a ton, regardless of what some think.

We landed 8 P4 starters on the OL/DL. I don't think some really understand how hard it is to get that many quality P4 players in the trenches. I doubt that a single other team did that.

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Jordan Seaton- the best prospect so far to enter the portal (All-American OT at Colorado)- is now on the market.

This kid will make quarterback money wherever he goes. Future first rounder.

Should be a SERIOUS PRIORITY for Elko and the boys. This is where you spend your $.

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Sip can't wait to brag about them getting another highly ranked portal player. He spends more time here than on whatever the favored sip MB is these days.

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We were probably a top 5 portal spender this January. We went and got some dudes, and went and spent a ton, regardless of what some think.

We landed 8 P4 starters on the OL/DL. I don't think some really understand how hard it is to get that many quality P4 players in the trenches. I doubt that a single other team did that.

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Looking it over i can see that. I think tu, LSU, and Tech are spending more but so far after that it's really us and Ole Miss. This probably will change some though.

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levytrousersEOY said:

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Jordan Seaton- the best prospect so far to enter the portal (All-American OT at Colorado)- is now on the market.

This kid will make quarterback money wherever he goes. Future first rounder.

Should be a SERIOUS PRIORITY for Elko and the boys. This is where you spend your $.

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Sip can't wait to brag about them getting another highly ranked portal player. He spends more time here than on whatever the favored sip MB is these days.

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It's pathetic, isn't it? And he's been doing it for YEARS.

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carl spacklers hat said:

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mjhhawk said:

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levytrousersEOY said:

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vander54 said:

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

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When you break the bank for one player it causes dissension in the locker room and a group of individuals who start to prioritize themselves and getting theirs over the team. See our 2022 recruiting class for an example of this. When you spend wisely on positions of need and the entire team works as a unit you get teams such as this year's Indiana.

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Someone gets it. This is likely why A&M didn't push all-in on Coleman, too, preferring someone like Horton who wasn't primarily focused on how much money he could make. People seem to forget you have an entire locker room you're responsible to.

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Just curious, but how do you know Horton wasnt focused solely on money? How do you know Coleman was (I doubt Tech got outbid)?
It seems many here think players who sign with Elko are doing it because they love the Ags and players who sign elsewhere are only chasing dollars.

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We don't know any of that. We have to hope Elko is chasing the right type of culture guys. I am just stating that you should not break the bank for one player and create a situation where that player makes significantly more than everyone else. That will cause resentment. I know we are playing all of our players and I assume we are paying them very well. I trust our staff did so smartly and prioritized the team over the individual. I have nothing against players who are out for the biggest payday. I just prefer they are not in our locker room to cause dissension. Hence my balking at your desire to break the bank for any individual.

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carl spacklers hat said:

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mjhhawk said:

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levytrousersEOY said:

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vander54 said:

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

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When you break the bank for one player it causes dissension in the locker room and a group of individuals who start to prioritize themselves and getting theirs over the team. See our 2022 recruiting class for an example of this. When you spend wisely on positions of need and the entire team works as a unit you get teams such as this year's Indiana.

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Someone gets it. This is likely why A&M didn't push all-in on Coleman, too, preferring someone like Horton who wasn't primarily focused on how much money he could make. People seem to forget you have an entire locker room you're responsible to.

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Just curious, but how do you know Horton wasnt focused solely on money? How do you know Coleman was (I doubt Tech got outbid)?
It seems many here think players who sign with Elko are doing it because they love the Ags and players who sign elsewhere are only chasing dollars.

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How many visits did Horton take after visiting A&M? Now compare that to Coleman, who, by all rational appearances, was chasing the biggest bag he could get. You can play goalie for the sips all you want but by all appearances, Horton was looking for fit while Coleman was looking for money. Give me the fit guy all day, every day.

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carl spacklers hat said:

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mjhhawk said:

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levytrousersEOY said:

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vander54 said:

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Probably not much different than most top school outside maybe tu and a couple others.

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I don't understand this rationale at all.
It's a position of need and a day one starter… why wouldn't you break the bank to make it happen? What's the point of having all this $ if you're not going to use it?

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When you break the bank for one player it causes dissension in the locker room and a group of individuals who start to prioritize themselves and getting theirs over the team. See our 2022 recruiting class for an example of this. When you spend wisely on positions of need and the entire team works as a unit you get teams such as this year's Indiana.

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Someone gets it. This is likely why A&M didn't push all-in on Coleman, too, preferring someone like Horton who wasn't primarily focused on how much money he could make. People seem to forget you have an entire locker room you're responsible to.

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Just curious, but how do you know Horton wasnt focused solely on money? How do you know Coleman was (I doubt Tech got outbid)?
It seems many here think players who sign with Elko are doing it because they love the Ags and players who sign elsewhere are only chasing dollars.

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Those are two questions so you are bi-curious.

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How did they do against Texas?

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That's easy. They finished ahead of Texas in the SEC making the playoffs while Texas played a goofy bowl game..I literally can't think of anything more embarrassing than being forced to play a bowl game in a world where they are now…well embarrassing..

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Now do 2024

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Okay. If you like I can do 2023, 2022, 2021. Where do you want me to stop? But since you asked, Texas beat us in 2024(Mike Elko's first year) en route to their second best season since 1963-which is kind of pathetic that a season that nobody will remember is legit their second best season in 60 years. But yeah..Let me know if you want me to keep going back further or just stop at 2024, Bruh

beerad12man said:

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We were probably a top 5 portal spender this January. We went and got some dudes, and went and spent a ton, regardless of what some think.

We landed 8 P4 starters on the OL/DL. I don't think some really understand how hard it is to get that many quality P4 players in the trenches. I doubt that a single other team did that.

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This. I started a thread on hopes that we would invest (buy) an Oline. Elko exceeded all expectations.

agchugger said:

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levytrousersEOY said:

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Jordan Seaton- the best prospect so far to enter the portal (All-American OT at Colorado)- is now on the market.

This kid will make quarterback money wherever he goes. Future first rounder.

Should be a SERIOUS PRIORITY for Elko and the boys. This is where you spend your $.

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Sip can't wait to brag about them getting another highly ranked portal player. He spends more time here than on whatever the favored sip MB is these days.

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You are responding to a sip troll, btw.

I'll ask again, 'cause I'm curious. Why is t.u. not ranked anywhere in top 70? I heard they got one or a few top players. Did they lose a bunch to the portal? Are those the only guys they got? Wonder where they fell in this spectrum of plus/minus.

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I'll ask again, 'cause I'm curious. Why is t.u. not ranked anywhere in top 70? I heard they got one or a few top players. Did they lose a bunch to the portal? Are those the only guys they got? Wonder where they fell in this spectrum of plus/minus.

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Because they are 16

Because you're looking at a goofy in/out metric when all of those guys weren't necessarily going to start or garner much playing time. In absolute strength of class, LSU and Texas are #1 and #2. All the wishful thinking in the world ain't gonna help us on the field. We're either all in or we're not. At this point it seems like we're content being an also ran. That's fine, but we seem to have this delusion that we're all in which is odd.

Lol