Bunk Moreland said:

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The Collective said:

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The biggest negative with not getting Cam is he is now on our schedule.

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He has already been on our schedule.

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Yep, and he got 18 yards on 4 catches. Albeit that was with Jackson Arnold trying to throw to him.

Tamuco99 said:

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This is a weak take. Cam is by far the superior player, no need to pretend otherwise. Horton may very well excel here and have a great season, but let's not be ridiculous because if Coleman had committed here you'd be ecstatic.

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You may be right but it's worth noting that KC Concepcion was not the number one or two or three receiver in the portal last year and Craver was significantly below KC.

Coleman is chasing the bag while it seems Horton wanted to play fir Wiggins. We needed one or the other.

These threads always seem to backfire. This one will be no different.

anyone claiming they wanted horton over coleman is lying to themselves to save face. just stop.

however, if horton can replace or exceed concepcion's production that's absolutely a win.

Justice Beaver said:

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Stone44 said:

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Little arch can't throw lying on his back. That's the key to everything.

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FIFY

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I hate to say it, but he seems more accurate than Reed, especially in the last few games of the season.

Coleman would've been freaky amazing. Realistically, I'm shocked we got either one though. WR was not in the 3 positions I was most worried about going into 2026 so I didn't really think we'd land a splash on any of them. If anything, I was expecting a Jahdae Walker to come in and be WR4 or so

What?? Conception was the 3rd best receiver behind Branch and Singleton per on3 rankings.

Eagle78 said:

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Football is won in the trenches. Assume our OL really excels...... next year....

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oh, ok.

vander54 said:

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agchugger said:

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vander54 said:

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That's not how it works. We still have an internal cap. We weren't taking Coleman and another WR.

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Ok my dude.

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Sorry to disappoint you

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Vander, point me to the ncaa rule on nil cap…oh that's right there isn't one. You're telling me that if someone writes us a 50M check, we are disallowed from spending that on football nil? Wrong.

Coleman would have fit better let's not kid ourselves. Horton can run deep routes but doesn't pressure the safeties the way Cam will. Horton got alot of looks later in the year when defenses shifted coverage to Bernard. While Cam is more athletic Horton does a great job of using his big frame to shield the defender from the ball and make contested catches. For a 2 million difference I think we won money can be spent elsewhere.

Manning really came on strong at the end of the year. He and Coleman are going to be a really potent combination and hard to stop.

vander54 said:

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He is way overpriced though

I think tu's strategy will eventually backfire on them.

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They have a lot of trial attorneys. We produce corporate attorneys who specialize in IP.

So who is now on our radar that would not have been had we signed Coleman?

agchugger said:

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So who is now on our radar that would not have been had we signed Coleman?

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In case you didn't notice we got Horton. We may take Miller too but he probably is Baylor bound right now.

As for others we aren't going to sign players just to sign them. If someone comes along at a position the COACHES feel like would improve our roster we may bite. But we are winding down our transfer class now.

Isn't Horton the consolation prize for Coleman? So if we had signed Coleman, it soiunds like we would have signed the exact same portal players so this cap you keep talking about seems pretty fluid.

And you are missing the other part. We aren't going to sign just to sign. Plus I really don't know how much we offered Coleman vs Horton. It may be closer than some think.

Alpha Texan said:

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Coleman would've been freaky amazing. Realistically, I'm shocked we got either one though. WR was not in the 3 positions I was most worried about going into 2026 so I didn't really think we'd land a splash on any of them. If anything, I was expecting a Jahdae Walker to come in and be WR4 or so

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Kind of funny you mention a comparison to an NFL player as coming in to be a 4th.

Miller committed to Baylor

GCP12 said:

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Miller committed to Baylor

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Not surprised

texag713 said:

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anyone claiming they wanted horton over coleman is lying to themselves to save face. just stop.

however, if horton can replace or exceed concepcion's production that's absolutely a win.

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I don't think Horton is better than Coleman, but if he exceeds Concepcion's production then he almost certainly will have been better than Coleman. Concepcion was way more productive than Coleman has proven to be at this point. Coleman would need to increase his yards by 30% and double his TD's to exceed Concepcion's year.

For the record, I don't think Horton is going to approach Concepcion's production either, but perhaps Craver and ABR will take another step to offset any falloff between Concepcion and Horton's production. Anyone expecting Horton to put up Concepcion's numbers is likely setting themselves up for disappointment.

agchugger said:

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What?? Conception was the 3rd best receiver behind Branch and Singleton per on3 rankings.

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OK then. Let's say KC was the third rated portal WR last year. Which some people had guys like Nic Anderson and others higher than KC.

Think for a minute about my point. Zachariah Branch was last year's Cam Coleman. We did OK with the number three guy and we wouldn't have traded for Branch. If you want to wallow in sadness go right ahead.
And how about Craver he was way down the list and significantly outperformed almost everyone ahead of him.

Is it true that Cam's final three were UT, Tech and Bama?

I wouldn't be surprised because I think we backed off some.

That doesn't mean we weren't involved but I think the price tag got higher than we were willing to spend.

rootube said:

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agchugger said:

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What?? Conception was the 3rd best receiver behind Branch and Singleton per on3 rankings.

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OK then. Let's say KC was the third rated portal WR last year. Which some people had guys like Nic Anderson and others higher than KC.

Think for a minute about my point. Zachariah Branch was last year's Cam Coleman. We did OK with the number three guy and we wouldn't have traded for Branch. If you want to wallow in sadness go right ahead.
And how about Craver he was way down the list and significantly outperformed almost everyone ahead of him.

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I'm not wallowing.. I hope Horton turns out well here and it would be awesome if he produces anywhere near Conception but I'm not expecting it since he was the 3rd best receiver on a team that produced more in the passing game than us last year. And yes, Craver came out of no where to produce. I understand we have to settle for who we can get. I think Cam is special and he's going to look more like Conception but that ship sailed. I think Horton can be a nice player just like Craver is a nice player and ABR will hopefully make a step forward and maybe some of our fish as well. But I"m not going to pretend as if we think they are the same player. Our staff would have taken Cam over Horton and that's not a stretch as to why. Nonetheless, we all move on and get the players we can get. Maybe Horton surprises and doubles his production. Maybe not.

vander54 said:

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I wouldn't be surprised because I think we backed off some.

That doesn't mean we weren't involved but I think the price tag got higher than we were willing to spend.

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I don't believe that for a second and not a single credible A&M source has said that. I think we resigned ourselves to moving on when it became apparent that he was leaning towards tu. But that's how recruiting works (even in the transfer portal). You win some, you lose some and focus on the players you can get.

agchugger said:

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vander54 said:

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I wouldn't be surprised because I think we backed off some.

That doesn't mean we weren't involved but I think the price tag got higher than we were willing to spend.

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I don't believe that for a second and not a single credible A&M source has said that. I think we resigned ourselves to moving on when it became apparent that he was leaning towards tu. But that's how recruiting works (even in the transfer portal). You win some, you lose some and focus on the players you can get.

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Exactly this. The idea that the Ags lost out over an unwillingness to meet the price is laughable.

agchugger said:

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vander54 said:

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I wouldn't be surprised because I think we backed off some.

That doesn't mean we weren't involved but I think the price tag got higher than we were willing to spend.

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I don't believe that for a second and not a single credible A&M source has said that. I think we resigned ourselves to moving on when it became apparent that he was leaning towards tu. But that's how recruiting works (even in the transfer portal). You win some, you lose some and focus on the players you can get.

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Believe what you want

Tamuco99 said:

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This is a weak take. Cam is by far the superior player, no need to pretend otherwise. Horton may very well excel here and have a great season, but let's not be ridiculous because if Coleman had committed here you'd be ecstatic.

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I agree I would have been ecstatic but "by far superior" is a big stretch.

agchugger said:

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rootube said:

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agchugger said:

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What?? Conception was the 3rd best receiver behind Branch and Singleton per on3 rankings.

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OK then. Let's say KC was the third rated portal WR last year. Which some people had guys like Nic Anderson and others higher than KC.

Think for a minute about my point. Zachariah Branch was last year's Cam Coleman. We did OK with the number three guy and we wouldn't have traded for Branch. If you want to wallow in sadness go right ahead.
And how about Craver he was way down the list and significantly outperformed almost everyone ahead of him.

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I'm not wallowing.. I hope Horton turns out well here and it would be awesome if he produces anywhere near Conception but I'm not expecting it since he was the 3rd best receiver on a team that produced more in the passing game than us last year. And yes, Craver came out of no where to produce. I understand we have to settle for who we can get. I think Cam is special and he's going to look more like Conception but that ship sailed. I think Horton can be a nice player just like Craver is a nice player and ABR will hopefully make a step forward and maybe some of our fish as well. But I"m not going to pretend as if we think they are the same player. Our staff would have taken Cam over Horton and that's not a stretch as to why. Nonetheless, we all move on and get the players we can get. Maybe Horton surprises and doubles his production. Maybe not.

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Nobody pretending. Horton should be a plug in starter with SEC experience. My point is that there are a million things that go into production and nobody knows the difference between the number one guy and about a dozen other guys. Fit, system, schedule, health and a million other things will come into play soon enough.

Coleman- 56 REC, 708 YDS, 5 TDs, 12 GP
Horton- 42 REC, 511 YDS, 8 TDs, 15 GP

levytrousersEOY said:

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agchugger said:

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vander54 said:

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I wouldn't be surprised because I think we backed off some.

That doesn't mean we weren't involved but I think the price tag got higher than we were willing to spend.

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I don't believe that for a second and not a single credible A&M source has said that. I think we resigned ourselves to moving on when it became apparent that he was leaning towards tu. But that's how recruiting works (even in the transfer portal). You win some, you lose some and focus on the players you can get.

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Exactly this. The idea that the Ags lost out over an unwillingness to meet the price is laughable.

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Hey tsip, it was known before Cam visited Bama that A&M stepped back from this recruitment. It was reported that way by several non-A&M outlets. Once the asking price went to $4M+ after the Tech visit, it was a 2 team race.

levytrousersEOY said:

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agchugger said:

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vander54 said:

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I wouldn't be surprised because I think we backed off some.

That doesn't mean we weren't involved but I think the price tag got higher than we were willing to spend.

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I don't believe that for a second and not a single credible A&M source has said that. I think we resigned ourselves to moving on when it became apparent that he was leaning towards tu. But that's how recruiting works (even in the transfer portal). You win some, you lose some and focus on the players you can get.

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Exactly this. The idea that the Ags lost out over an unwillingness to meet the price is laughable.

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The only thing more comical than sip outbidding everyone to get the guy is them trying to convince everyone they didn't.