Exactly, sermorelin is trash. They should never have sold you that.

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MosesHallEnforcer said:

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Exactly, sermorelin is trash. They should never have sold you that.

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I actually was pretty pleased with it.....

I think "Sermorelin is trash" is a bit reductive, it was definitely better than nothing. But the difference between Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, tesamorelin, and CJC was night and day. $275 for a vial of Sermorelin was a complete rip off. I did enjoy Sermorelin until I tried the others.

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Finally pulled the trigger on bpc and tb since I've been off pain meds following surgery for several days. I'm not sure I'll be able to provide any meaningful anecdotal reporting for anyone else, but I'll try to keep a journal of my experience and update here periodically.

Day 4 of retatrutide. I started with micro dose .5mg to avoid any potential nausea side effects. Gave myself another .5mg this morning to see if I can feel any differences. Ideally will end up at 2mg weekly using two 1mg pins.

Honestly, it's been hard to tell if it has been placebo effect or if it has made a difference. The hunger suppression effects are supposedly much lower when compared to other GLPs.

I can still eat normally, without feeling stuffed after a few bites, but have not yet pigged out either. I would say I haven't had any feelings of being hungry either though.

Will not be measuring my weight unless I get to the point I'm chasing a 6 pack, which would probably be months away. I will be keeping note of my pant size. Currently 33 maybe more accurately 33.5 and hoping itll be down to 32 by Christmas

6 or 7 days in depending if you count first day as day 0 or day 1. I'll keep it as day 1, so 7 days in.

Nausea is here so the retatrutide is definitely working unless I have some unforseen sickness. Makes me think even going with two weekly .5mg pins mightve been too much at start after they stacked together following the second shot. Half life is supposedly 6-8 days. I will likely try to cut back below .5 mg per shot this upcoming week but that'll be hard to do since I didnt dilute with double the BAC water

Hard to tell for sure but some shorts and sweats that had been feeling a little tight, wearing around the house, do feel like they are looser. Could all be placebo but then again, losing 5+lbs in a week isnt unheard of with reta either. Besides today's nausea I have noticed some appetite suppression but have still eaten, just less, and have felt full longer. Probably will need to add in some double or triple protein scoop shakes to up my protein intake. Fingers crossed that with the slowed digestion that the higher protein will still be digested.

Going to cut down the posts on this thread to not clutter it. Next post around Christmas unless shocking or bad results occur before then.

Your weekly dosage is on point to start. Just cut it down to 0.25mg and do it every other day 4 days a week. That will solve your issue.

I am leaning towards the tesa/Ipa blend from biologevity labs, but having trouble figuring out the dosages. Anyone have any experience with that?

BoDog said:

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I am leaning towards the tesa/Ipa blend from biologevity labs, but having trouble figuring out the dosages. Anyone have any experience with that?

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There is a dosage calculator on Prime Peptides website. I'm still not 100% certain that I have it figured out but it definitely helps. If you're more knowledgable than me about peptide dosing then it will prob work for you.

https://primepeptides.co/peptide-calculator/?srsltid=AfmBOopQ-jwuwr_FRk4Y654jcbebCp69iKmvDhIxEjha--U-Dl8Q9f4a

What's the blend ratio of each? Is it 6/2 right?

MosesHallEnforcer said:

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What's the blend ratio of each? Is it 6/2 right?

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correct....

Ok, so if you do 2ml BAC water, you would draw 33umits on your syringe for 1MG tesa and 333mcg ipa respectively.

No food or insulin spiking calories 90 min before or after.

You can run that once or twice a day depending on your budget. If you're only doing once per day do it at night.

MosesHallEnforcer said:

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Ok, so if you do 2ml BAC water, you would draw 33umits on your syringe for 1MG tesa and 333mcg ipa respectively.

No food or insulin spiking calories 90 min before or after.

You can run that once or twice a day depending on your budget. If you're only doing once per day do it at night.

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This is a good starting dose, correct?

Can someone further explain to me like I am a 6 year old how/what the 2ml BAC water is and how that is done?

Sorry for the noob question!

You take a 1 ml syringe, fill it with bacteriostatic water, (Hospira brand), put it into your peptide vial. Then draw another 1 ml, and put it into your peptide vial. Let dissolve, and swirl a little and your peptides are now reconstituted.

Yes sir, that is just the dose. You don't need to go higher on tesamorelin.

Do it once or twice a day. Am or Pm. Pm if only doing once a day.

MosesHallEnforcer said:

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Yes sir, that is just the dose. You don't need to go higher on tesamorelin.

Do it once or twice a day. Am or Pm. Pm if only doing once a day.

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Thank you, sir!

Moses continues to deliver!

my son plays juco baseball and coaches and players are talking about taking CJC 1295 Ipamoralin. I guess it is simlar to steroids, but doesn't impact testosterone. It is more of a growth hormone. Looking up on grok, it seems ok, besides it is banned by NCAA/MLB.

Wondering if anyone heard of it and know any impact. I am discouraging it as a pitcher, I don't think the ligaments can handle strength growth.

I don't know how much benefit they would get from taking ipa/cjc since they are so young. All those compounds do is signal the pituitary to secrete growth hormone. As we age that lessens dramatically so for people in their 30s and 40s. taking those compounds, they feel like they did your son's age. Quicker recovery, build muscle easier etc etc. bpc and tb500 are also banned and those are a miracle for healing and recovery. Go figure.

Aggietaco said:

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Finally pulled the trigger on bpc and tb since I've been off pain meds following surgery for several days. I'm not sure I'll be able to provide any meaningful anecdotal reporting for anyone else, but I'll try to keep a journal of my experience and update here periodically.

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Speaking of the miracle for healing, I'm in week 2 of bpc and tb. Obviously no anecdotal evidence yet, but I'm hoping it will hasten my recovery. PT on the Achilles repair starts this week and I'm anxious to start some mobility work on my ankle since I've been pretty timid about even moving it when I'm not wearing my boot. I spoke with my ortho about my plan ahead of my first injections and he's not sold on the treatment since there is not much significant research, but agreed to help me track recovery against similar aged males as a data point.

The injections have been way easier than I imagined, as someone who is deathly afraid of needles. I've been doing my 250 mcg (of each bpc and tb) pins nightly with the .5cc 31g syringes, alternating right and left side of my stomach and the needle is probably the easiest part. I've only had some slight discomfort at the injection site once, and I think that can be attributed to swabbing with an alcohol pad immediately after injecting that caused some irritation.

Respectfully your ortho has no idea what he's talking about. There's tons of research and data on tb500 and bpc157.

Also your tb500 dose is too low for healing. You need to take 2.0-2.5mg of tb500 in the AM.

I would also add either ipa/tesa to your stack or pharma hgh if you're comfortable with going that route.

Felt with all the help Moses has been it was only right to keep a journal on progress of the current peptide therapy.

Dosage:
IPA - 250 mcg - AM
TB-500 - 2mg - AM
BPC-157 - 250 mcg - AM
Tesa - 1mg - PM
BPC-157 - 250 mcg - PM

Week 1:
Felt a bit of dry mouth and can tell that I am not adjusted to eating less because when I do eat my normal amount I feel very very full so trying to adjust to that.

One thing that has stood out is my ability to sleep through the night. Not sure if that has something to do with it but ill gladly take it.

Went hunting last part of the week so diet wasn't too good so hopefully this week we will see a little bit of weight loss.

IPA and tesamorelin definitely helps with sleep. It's why I recommend doing those in the PM if you're only dosing once a day.

Not to derail, but what do you know about ss-31. Reading some pretty remarkable claims about it....

It's great for your mitochondria. You run a cycle of SS-31 and then a cycle of motsc.

MosesHallEnforcer said:

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Respectfully your ortho has no idea what he's talking about. There's tons of research and data on tb500 and bpc157.

Also your tb500 dose is too low for healing. You need to take 2.0-2.5mg of tb500 in the AM.

I would also add either ipa/tesa to your stack or pharma hgh if you're comfortable with going that route.

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Sorry, should have clarified data on humans.

I bought the mixed 10mg bpc + 10mg tb vial so I don't have an option for the time being without doing a supplementary dose of tb. And honestly, the dosage recs on tb are all over the board. I settled with using them combined but I did see commonly recommended was a loading phase of 2mg twice a week and then a maintenance phase of 4-8 split into bi-monthly injections.

Also, still dipping my toes. I haven't completely gotten over the safety aspect of this.

If you're trying to get aggressive healing an injury I would bump the doses up to 500mcg of each AM and PM so at least your getting 1MG of tb500 per day. Bpc157 is tolerated fine at the higher doses so don't worry about that.

Run that for six weeks, Take a week off then another six weeks.

2.0-2.5 is better for healing an injury though. If you're just using it regularly for general recovery the lower doses are better and more economical.

MosesHallEnforcer said:

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I don't know how much benefit they would get from taking ipa/cjc since they are so young. All those compounds do is signal the pituitary to secrete growth hormone. As we age that lessens dramatically so for people in their 30s and 40s. taking those compounds, they feel like they did your son's age. Quicker recovery, build muscle easier etc etc. bpc and tb500 are also banned and those are a miracle for healing and recovery. Go figure.

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Is there anything that could help him with strength that is safe? I rather get him on the safer stuff then him experimenting with stuff he doesn't need.

Had cheilectomy surgeryon my big toe today. Involves an open incision, removal of the bone spur and general cleanup of the joint. 55yo male

Was thinking of doing a Klow cycle to help with healing and recovery. Worth it? Dosages? Others that would be better? Not expecting miracle and generally healthy well from stuff. But will take any advantages I can get that don't have a huge downside.

I think just bpc and tb 500 would be sufficient in the healing dosages discussed.

The ghk and Kpv in the klow are probably unnecessary, but also wouldn't hurt either. Ghk helps with collagen production and KPV reduces systemic inflammation and has some anti-microbial properties.

There is a seminar on post surgery peptide protocols, I have access to, so I'll check on that and report back.

If you want to DM me your email address I can send you a pdf with some advanced post surgery recovery protocol.