Dude couldnt go 5 minutes without getting in a gunfight

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I mean I can kind of understand it based on the escalation.

Dude skips out on a bill while saying racist stuff. He's out on bond and shortly after gets into this altercation

It's clearly a pattern of escalating behavior. How else are you supposed to stop him from doing the same **** again.

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Have you heard of the term innocence?

If cops and prosecutors allege things, are you to be locked up without a fair way out because you said voldemort?

Doesn't that sound ridiculous? Just because you said the word that can't be said, you better be locked up and have a prohibitively high amount to prevent you from bailing out. Voldemort alone changes your rights, how you are prosecuted, how you are charged and gets you an unfair trial from the very beginning.

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I mean I can kind of understand it based on the escalation.

Dude skips out on a bill while saying racist stuff. He's out on bond and shortly after gets into this altercation

It's clearly a pattern of escalating behavior. How else are you supposed to stop him from doing the same **** again.

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Wrong.

That is not what "escalation" means under a self defense claim.

yall are getting really caught up on him saying the n word

im talking about everything around it.

he says the n word and goads people into fights

he says the n words then dips out on a bill and tries to goad people into fights

he says the n word and goaded someone into a fight and then pulled out a gun when the fight got out of hand

consistency here is the n word sure, but it's also him goading people into fights with escalating impacts

again i can understand the silly high bail because if it was 10k he'd just go out there and goad people into a fight

pattern of behavior with escalating consequences to the safety of those around him

bubblesthechimp said:

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yall are getting really caught up on him saying the n word

im talking about everything around it.

he says the n word and goads people into fights

he says the n words then dips out on a bill and tries to goad people into fights

he says the n word and goaded someone into a fight and then pulled out a gun when the fight got out of hand

consistency here is the n word sure, but it's also him goading people into fights with escalating impacts

again i can understand the silly high bail because if it was 10k he'd just go out there and goad people into a fight

pattern of behavior with escalating consequences to the safety of those around him

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AGAIN you are not talking about law and what "escalation" means.

But since you are a Dem who supports no bail policies, how do you square that in your mind?

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That case is nearly nothing as evidenced by getting out for 5k

Yet somehow, because it exists theres this thought that a record setting amount is appropriate in comparison to previous full on MURDER cases?

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

dixie whiskey said:

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TAMUallen said:

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That case is nearly nothing as evidenced by getting out for 5k

Yet somehow, because it exists theres this thought that a record setting amount is appropriate in comparison to previous full on MURDER cases?

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

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You're trying to justify an all time high bail on the basis that others were more poor (with far worse crimes and histories) and assume Chud has the ability to raise a higher amount because hes a very recent streamer?


There's a major assumption ongoing there too, all events are Chud's doing and are his fault so better keep the still innocent man locked up to prevent future crimes.

Was the one who began the assault there because he knew Chud's location? Wouldn't that suddenly very much change your line of thought on who had the wrong behavior?

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

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Not a domestic relation case in the prior case, so if he has a right to carry and a license, generally no. He walked a tab. Not a violent crime, yelling aside.

Now that he has used a gun? Yes, he will not be allowed to keep his guns in his home assuming he is releaed on bail. It will be a condition of his bail.

bubblesthechimp said:

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yall are getting really caught up on him saying the n word

im talking about everything around it.

he says the n word and goads people into fights

he says the n words then dips out on a bill and tries to goad people into fights

he says the n word and goaded someone into a fight and then pulled out a gun when the fight got out of hand

consistency here is the n word sure, but it's also him goading people into fights with escalating impacts

again i can understand the silly high bail because if it was 10k he'd just go out there and goad people into a fight

pattern of behavior with escalating consequences to the safety of those around him

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I'm no lawyer, but my take is, there's no crime for goading…but assaulting someone who is goading is indeed a crime. And it can get you killed.

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dixie whiskey said:

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That case is nearly nothing as evidenced by getting out for 5k

Yet somehow, because it exists theres this thought that a record setting amount is appropriate in comparison to previous full on MURDER cases?

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

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You're trying to justify an all time high bail on the basis that others were more poor (with far worse crimes and histories) and assume Chud has the ability to raise a higher amount because hes a very recent streamer?


There's a major assumption ongoing there too, all events are Chud's doing and are his fault so better keep the still innocent man locked up to prevent future crimes.

Was the one who began the assault there because he knew Chud's location? Wouldn't that suddenly very much change your line of thought on who had the wrong behavior?

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no, what i'm trying to suggest is that in every one of YOUR examples as evidence of conspiracy, if it's the case the defendant was not released on bail, what are we even talking about? i think we can at least agree that individual circumstances are factored into setting these amounts, so if in all of these cases (which i reiterate are cases you offered as evidence here) the amounts were sufficient to keep the defendant locked up, what's the conspiracy here? who benefits? because it seems to me that the system did its job, no? what difference does it make it it was 500 dollars more than they could afford or 5 million? their circumstances were considered and a number was set that they couldn't reach. the end. for a conspiracy to be in play, someone needs to benefit. you can't even point to publicity as none of these were known to the public at large until you guys brought them that attention. so what is the conspiracy exactly? and keep in mind you're accusing a DA and not a judge here who doesn't even set the number. in short, this is a major, major reach at best.

and i'm not assuming anything based on him being a streamer, im noting the very public fundraiser and the thousands upon thousands of people publicly stating they'll assist in contributing to posting whatever number the courts set. i don't care what he does for a living.

Your punctuation, formatting and capitalization makes it really hard to read while exercising (no offense intended). I'll try to reply

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

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Not a domestic relation case in the prior case, so if he has a right to carry and a license, generally no. He walked a tab. Not a violent crime, yelling aside.

Now that he has used a gun? Yes, he will not be allowed to keep his guns in his home assuming he is releaed on bail. It will be a condition of his bail.

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thanks for clearing that up. i figured there was some sort of line there based on the crime but it wouldn't have surprised me either way. i just hadn't seen that mentioned and was curious

TAMUallen said:

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Your punctuation, formatting and capitalization makes it really hard to read while exercising (no offense intended). I'll try to reply

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no offense taken. sorry i'm on my phone killing some time online but i'll try to make my responses less a pain to read, in retrospect i see your point there. my apologies

Might not be a crime for goading but provocation has been and can be used a justification.

Also I think son of Sam laws apply where he couldn't use any crowd generated funds towards posting bond

dixie whiskey said:

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dixie whiskey said:

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That case is nearly nothing as evidenced by getting out for 5k

Yet somehow, because it exists theres this thought that a record setting amount is appropriate in comparison to previous full on MURDER cases?

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

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You're trying to justify an all time high bail on the basis that others were more poor (with far worse crimes and histories) and assume Chud has the ability to raise a higher amount because hes a very recent streamer?


There's a major assumption ongoing there too, all events are Chud's doing and are his fault so better keep the still innocent man locked up to prevent future crimes.

Was the one who began the assault there because he knew Chud's location? Wouldn't that suddenly very much change your line of thought on who had the wrong behavior?

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no, what i'm trying to suggest is that in every one of YOUR examples as evidence of conspiracy, if it's the case the defendant was not released on bail, what are we even talking about? i think we can at least agree that individual circumstances are factored into setting these amounts, so if in all of these cases (which i reiterate are cases you offered as evidence here) the amounts were sufficient to keep the defendant locked up, what's the conspiracy here? who benefits? because it seems to me that the system did its job, no? what difference does it make it it was 500 dollars more than they could afford or 5 million? their circumstances were considered and a number was set that they couldn't reach. the end. for a conspiracy to be in play, someone needs to benefit. you can't even point to publicity as none of these were known to the public at large until you guys brought them that attention. so what is the conspiracy exactly? and keep in mind you're accusing a DA and not a judge here who doesn't even set the number. in short, this is a major, major reach at best.

and i'm not assuming anything based on him being a streamer, im noting the very public fundraiser and the thousands upon thousands of people publicly stating they'll assist in contributing to posting whatever number the courts set. i don't care what he does for a living.

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Some of those bails have been very low.

It's not conspiracy based if a very clear and defined discrepancy from EVERY other case exists. It's also riding a lot on him being famous to make it so high. What's making him famous are things like this judge treating him so differently than everyone else.

The assumption that he can generate more money from this after the fact is then only fueling the thought it's way too high. Remember, he's still innocent. He has to pay for a great defense and if we are taking 1.25MM to begin? How's that fair?

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bubblesthechimp said:

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Might not be a crime for goading but provocation has been and can be used a justification.

Also I think son of Sam laws apply where he couldn't use any crowd generated funds towards posting bond

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the son of sam laws are an interesting angle i hadn't considered, but given his prior public persona couldn't there be some argument that he's not necessarily profiting from the crime, rather it's just his fans helping him out?

basically that he isn't famous because of the crime so support isn't necessarily profiting from said crime.

it's going to be an interesting case to follow no doubt. i saw it mentioned in the thread already, but since there's a premeditation requirement to the charge i don't see how his social media stuff doesn't get in, and i think it ultimately does him in. some of his posts are basically fantasizing about manipulating the legal system to execute someone for being black. that won't play well.

and like you say, provocation is something that a lot of his defenders seem to be overlooking. you can't provoke someone into attacking you then claim self defense. seems like determining whether what happened was provoked will be what any potential trial will come down to

Go back to Food and Spirits. This isn't the forum for you on a legal thread.

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TAMUallen said:

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dixie whiskey said:

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TAMUallen said:

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dixie whiskey said:

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TAMUallen said:

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That case is nearly nothing as evidenced by getting out for 5k

Yet somehow, because it exists theres this thought that a record setting amount is appropriate in comparison to previous full on MURDER cases?

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ill ask again then, how many of those cases saw the defendant released on bail?

and i think the issue with the prior bail isn't so much the charge as it is that one court already gave him leeway and he made no effort to even tone down his behavior enough to avoid another arrest. so why would the next court have reason to trust him with another chance?

one last thing, is there any sort of stipulation against carrying when on bail there? and if there is, could that also factor into this case? genuinely asking here as i have no idea

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You're trying to justify an all time high bail on the basis that others were more poor (with far worse crimes and histories) and assume Chud has the ability to raise a higher amount because hes a very recent streamer?


There's a major assumption ongoing there too, all events are Chud's doing and are his fault so better keep the still innocent man locked up to prevent future crimes.

Was the one who began the assault there because he knew Chud's location? Wouldn't that suddenly very much change your line of thought on who had the wrong behavior?

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no, what i'm trying to suggest is that in every one of YOUR examples as evidence of conspiracy, if it's the case the defendant was not released on bail, what are we even talking about? i think we can at least agree that individual circumstances are factored into setting these amounts, so if in all of these cases (which i reiterate are cases you offered as evidence here) the amounts were sufficient to keep the defendant locked up, what's the conspiracy here? who benefits? because it seems to me that the system did its job, no? what difference does it make it it was 500 dollars more than they could afford or 5 million? their circumstances were considered and a number was set that they couldn't reach. the end. for a conspiracy to be in play, someone needs to benefit. you can't even point to publicity as none of these were known to the public at large until you guys brought them that attention. so what is the conspiracy exactly? and keep in mind you're accusing a DA and not a judge here who doesn't even set the number. in short, this is a major, major reach at best.

and i'm not assuming anything based on him being a streamer, im noting the very public fundraiser and the thousands upon thousands of people publicly stating they'll assist in contributing to posting whatever number the courts set. i don't care what he does for a living.

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Some of those bails have been very low.

It's not conspiracy based if a very clear and defined discrepancy from EVERY other case exists. It's also riding a lot on him being famous to make it so high. What's making him famous are things like this judge treating him so differently than everyone else.

The assumption that he can generate more money from this after the fact is then only fueling the thought it's way too high. Remember, he's still innocent. He has to pay for a great defense and if we are taking 1.25MM to begin? How's that fair?

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i think it's important to determine whether it's the judge or the DA you're taking issue with. the graphics all seem to be about the DA, but here you mention the judge, and to me that's two totally different claims to be making.

regardless, the defendants weren't released on bail. if you want to claim his specific number is too high, fine, but brining in all these other people who didn't make bail and suggesting there was something else at play doesn't make a lot of sense- because, again, they didn't make bail. whatever the number was, it was clearly enough

Adin Ross and his lawyers are ALLEGEDLY working to help secure ChudTheBuilder’s $1.25M BAIL after a reported jail voice message surfaced of Chud offering to fight for FREE on Brand Risk 😳

“I will fight for free, please Adin. Please get me out of here, I’m begging.." pic.twitter.com/YsIpx8q8na

— vxdeo (@vxdeo) May 19, 2026

My God, who is letting this guy talk? I guess the only argument you can make is he's said so much already, that he can't make it any worse. But he certainly can.

He will still get the givesendgo money just might not be able to use for bail. I just donated again.

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Adin Ross and his lawyers are ALLEGEDLY working to help secure ChudTheBuilder’s $1.25M BAIL after a reported jail voice message surfaced of Chud offering to fight for FREE on Brand Risk 😳

“I will fight for free, please Adin. Please get me out of here, I’m begging.." pic.twitter.com/YsIpx8q8na

— vxdeo (@vxdeo) May 19, 2026

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HAHAHA....AHAHAHAHA.....

Adin Ross right now...

dixie whiskey said:

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his posts are basically fantasizing about manipulating the legal system to execute someone for being black.

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I had never heard of this guy until this thread on here so obviously I haven't studied his posts as closely or followed him as long as you have. I'm curious about the veracity of this statement. Can you link some of the posts to which you are referring?

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The part about him carrying mace at times is going to be a big problem for him.

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why?

He's dumb for doing this kind of stuff I agree, but at this point we don't know what happened.

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Any prosecutor will be able to point to the fact that he switched to carrying mace to a firearm because he was looking for a fight. His social media posts after the fact aren't going to help either. (I won't post them here because they are pretty vile and would get me a ban.)
ETA: his prior acts are going to come in as well.

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So if I carry my normal sidearm instead of mace, obviously I'm out looking for a fight if I am in a position that I have to use my sidearm?

Sorry, but that's just dumb. Claiming that because you picked X self defense tool on any particular day means you were out hunting for a fight isn't something you can logically state. You might be able to use enough extraneous information to prove your point, but your initial premise doesn't have any logic or merit. I bet you probably think if I handload my SD rounds that a prosecutor will use that to send me to extra special prison too.

Chud's lawyer is a lib. Hopefully a good lawyer that wants massive publicity steps up.

NEW: Chud The Builder’s Attorney Releases Statement. 🧵

I’m releasing it as it was posted. I’ve made no edits. pic.twitter.com/0YhobkSVZA

— Robbie Harvey (@therobbieharvey) May 19, 2026

WHAT A GREAT DAY FOR DALTON EATHERLY!

TLDR: The State's case against Eatherly appears to be utterly lacking in ANY LEGAL MERIT WHATEVER, based upon what appears to be the official Affidavit of Complaint just made public (attached).

This in a case in which the State's BURDEN is… pic.twitter.com/1obWwZ749N

— Andrew Branca Show (@TheBrancaShow) May 20, 2026

1 week later and still no video for an event that was supposedly livestreamed. there is live stream video available for the mosque shooting that happened 5 days later.

was it being streamed just fake news?

If the altercation occurred shortly after Eatherly left the courthouse when did he pick up the gun? I may have the timeline incorrect but I thought it occurred as he was walking away from the courthouse where he was being sued by a credit card company.

Courthouses all have metal detectors so he couldn't have had the gun on him when he walked in for his hearing. Did he go to his car and retrieve the pistol?

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WHAT A GREAT DAY FOR DALTON EATHERLY!

TLDR: The State's case against Eatherly appears to be utterly lacking in ANY LEGAL MERIT WHATEVER, based upon what appears to be the official Affidavit of Complaint just made public (attached).

This in a case in which the State's BURDEN is… pic.twitter.com/1obWwZ749N

— Andrew Branca Show (@TheBrancaShow) May 20, 2026

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Branca is very pro-eatherly, so he'll reach for anything. You could do the exact same thing Branca is doing with most probable cause affidavits. It means nothing.

As stated before, will be more and more interesting to see how this case goes with facts. Not the opinions of people, prosecutor, judge, his OWN defense, who dislike what he says.

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I thought it occurred as he was walking away from the courthouse where he was being sued by a credit card company.

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The fact that this guy is a deadbeat is one of the least surprising things i have read.

BadMoonRisin said:

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1 week later and still no video for an event that was supposedly livestreamed. there is live stream video available for the mosque shooting that happened 5 days later.

was it being streamed just fake news?

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I believe that it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I'm not going to double check. Anyway, what I heard was yes there was a stream but that the stream was cut from broadcast as the fight began. However, I know somewhere I had also read that he might not have been streaming or at least set up to stream as he normally would that day? Who knows but that's why we need fair trials to review actual evidence of what happened, not just judgements of people because they had said/done incendiary things before as a way to earn money and attention.

As more information comes forward from different sources, the views that outsiders and the court have of the people involved will likely shift

https://x.com/ArchetypeTheory/ status/2057270493695107311

Put a space before status of the link because the words used by the assailant are mildly profane