Chud the Builder

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Gaeilge said:

Acquit, no. Hung jury, highly plausible.

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I say this only as observing the massive divide between parties these days. I think Chud is a POS, but I also recognize his 1st Amendment rights and how this could play out.


That is definitely an accurate statement. I could potentially see a hung jury, but I definitely do not see an acquittal.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

The "he's an idiot but I long for a time when people could say whatever they wanted and not get physically attacked" mindset that many on the right espouse when this happens is bizarre. Men got smoked for their words all the time in days of our founding fathers and for often FAR less offensive and inflammatory language. Go back to 1789, call a man's wife a ***** and see what happens to you. The difference is back then people knew this and were less likely to say **** like that because they knew there would be consequences.

Sure this idiot has a right to use racial slurs, and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime. That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve whatever happens to him if he's dumb enough to do it.


What a strange and disconnected from reality post.

In the present day, you do not get to physically attack people for what they LEGALLY say.

There's nothing right or left about it.

You might have not been prosecuted for it and it had been acceptable solution to a conflict in 1789 but that doesn't translate to now in any manner.
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and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime


Getting your ass beat can be both deserved and illegal. They are not mutually exclusive.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

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and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime


Getting your ass beat can be both deserved and illegal. They are not mutually exclusive.


And getting your ass shot for attacking somebody irritating you isn't a crime either.

Anyway things are just getting rehashed. Until more evidence comes forward I'll just watch and see what happens
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TAMUallen said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

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and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime


Getting your ass beat can be both deserved and illegal. They are not mutually exclusive.


And getting your ass shot for attacking somebody irritating you isn't a crime either.


In certain situations in some states it actually is, or least can be.
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There's several good X threads arguing that based on past precedent he may not have a particularly viable self defense claim in Tennessee. Their courts seem to be very broad on what constitutes provocation. And given he's on record in both video footage and on social media talking about inciting this very scenario I really doubt that's gonna play for him.
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TAMUallen said:

AggieVictor10 said:

TAMUallen said:

His online persona is saying the n word.

He's deliberately abrasive and attention seeking.

Not a pleasant human being but some of yalls reactions are a bit shocking. All I've seen is a pretty serious scuffle with shots being fired. Let's tap the brakes a bit and wait for more video and statements before jumping on the LOCKEM UP AND LET THE BOYS IN PRISON SHOW EM WHO'S BOSS... ffs


That's how a lot of threads involving someone FAFO'ing their way to a prison sentence go. Why is it an issue now?


Just because you call people bad words and stir them up doesn't mean you're guilty of anything if you shoot somebody who first attacks you.

He's an idiot playing in a volatile environment to make a buck.

That does NOT make him guilty of a crime just because people hate the N word.

Doesn't make him good or that he should've been creating the situation either.

I'll wait till more information comes out and this isn't all harshly judged by outsiders simply because there were racial words used

Edit to add: We don't even really know an assumption I've made either... unless theres recordings I havent heard. I'm just going off of what he does. He shows dislike for people that don't look like him and calls them bad things so an educated guess is he did the same in this incident


So do you think this guy is not guilty?
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Infection_Ag11 said:

There's several good X threads arguing that based on past precedent he may not have a particularly viable self defense claim in Tennessee. Their courts seem to be very broad on what constitutes provocation. And given he's on record in both video footage and on social media talking about inciting this very scenario I really doubt that's gonna play for him.


I'm no constitutional lawyer but his actions seem akin to the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" SC opinion. If what you say is likely to create disorder or simply meant to agitate and anger people to encourage a violent response then I would think he would have a tough time proving he was merely defending himself after exercising his freedom of speech

This dude is a complete POS outside of his videos. This altercation happened when he was leaving court after being sued by credit card companies for non payment and he had been arrested for stiffing a restaurant on a $400 tab.
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nomad2007 said:

Darthag11 said:

In general, should you take a beating if you say bad words to people or are you allowed to defend yourself?


In general, if you routinely ragebait people while threatening to shoot them if they react to you, you're not going to get the benefit of the doubt.

He "defended himself" right into prison.

not what I asked.....but I bet you feel good for virtue signaling.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Never heard of this guy but went to Twitter looking for context. Found this take from "Fugitive Caesar"

I don't expect a jury to acquit this fellow.



It is pretty accurate to compare him to Rosa Parks. Would be funny if he was financed by the SPLC.
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Darthag11 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

He's not wrong that black people are disproportionately violent and by far most likely to kill or maim over words. But he's a f-ing idiot and a bad person.

I actually DM'd him when he first popped on the scene in Instagram. Essentially telling him to chill the f out and that he's going to eventually get smoked. Also told him that he should be acknowledging the good black people…like my amazing black neighbors….or at least the fact that they exist.

He essentially responded that he was friends with some good black people but that his life was over and he is losing his son and that "they took everything from me".

At that point I wrote him off as a fed or some type of operative. Looks like I was wrong and that he was sincere and truly is a broken individual. I am betting his ex ran off with a black man or something and he's borderline suicidal.

you dm people on IG?




Never had. I did with this guy though because he was postling wildly reckless and racist videos.

Shame me, don't care. Hope someone notices and you get the sense of gratification you are seeking.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Read the post again

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and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime


Getting your ass beat can be both deserved and illegal. They are not mutually exclusive.

Where do you draw the line on what words morally warrant a violent assault? If I state a fact like "George Floyd was an illiterate career felon who violently robbed and terrorized a pregnant woman at gunpoint" and some brainwashed black person who looks up to that sack of sh** assaults me, was it deserved? Many black people would say yes...where do you stand? You see the slippery slope issue with "you deserve to get your ass beat for bad words because that's how the cavemen and pioneers did it" don't you?

If we lived in a more homogeneous and civilized society, I might be inclined to accept this notion...but we live in a society with a segment of the population who thinks it's ok to get violent and destroy a fast food restaurant and assault employees because they ran out of milk shakes. I don't like the thought of "it's illegal, but OK for them to beat my ass and gang stomp my lights out if I say words they don't like". NO OTHER GROUP BEHAVES LIKE THAT GROUP IN THIS REGARD, barring very rare exceptions. We routinely see videos of them jumping on peoples heads after they're knocked unconsciouss while their friends laugh and film it. I personally don't trust peoples judgement on what is "offensive enough for a violent beatdown" like you might.
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He went way over the line and into provocation territory. If you delve into his social media, he's been looking for a fight for a while. You can't do that and then claim "free speech" or self-defense.

His self defense claim will go nowhere. Self defense claims work better when the jury likes you and has some empathy for your situation. Once all of his social media posts and videos get admitted into evidence (and it's all coming in, every last bit of it), that sympathy goes out the window. In fact, it may be used to convict him too.
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Captain Ahab said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Never heard of this guy but went to Twitter looking for context. Found this take from "Fugitive Caesar"

I don't expect a jury to acquit this fellow.



It is pretty accurate to compare him to Rosa Parks. Would be funny if he was financed by the SPLC.

They are not alike in the least sense. When did Rosa Parks go around calling white people honkies and crackers?
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HTownAg98 said:

He went way over the line and into provocation territory. If you delve into his social media, he's been looking for a fight for a while. You can't do that and then claim "free speech" or self-defense.

His self defense claim will go nowhere. Self defense claims work better when the jury likes you and has some empathy for your situation. Once all of his social media posts and videos get admitted into evidence (and it's all coming in, every last bit of it), that sympathy goes out the window. In fact, it may be used to convict him too.



There is only one certain outcome to this cause. If he's acquitted there will be nationwide riots and looting.

I'm talking April, 1992 Los Angeles style.
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HTownAg98 said:

He went way over the line and into provocation territory. If you delve into his social media, he's been looking for a fight for a while. You can't do that and then claim "free speech" or self-defense.

Actually, I think you can. I get where you are coming from, I just don't think the law should work that way. That just because he has said these things he could never be a victim of an assault with a self defense claim, just bc "he deserves it".

This guys is nuts though...a lot of these trashy social media provacateurs only pick on the weak...most of the black ones I have seen antagonize and harrass white and asian people who they know won't do sh**...or who might punch them but aren't going to stomp their lights out or kill them over words. He chose to F with the 6/60 crowd like an absolute psycho. That's the one group you simply cannot do this to.

And Americans (aka potential jurors) of all races have mostly been brainwashed since kindergarten to think it's ok since they have grievances over the past. Even if it turns out he shouldn't according to the facts of the case, this guy is going to do very hard time.
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AggieVictor10 said:

TAMUallen said:

AggieVictor10 said:

TAMUallen said:

His online persona is saying the n word.

He's deliberately abrasive and attention seeking.

Not a pleasant human being but some of yalls reactions are a bit shocking. All I've seen is a pretty serious scuffle with shots being fired. Let's tap the brakes a bit and wait for more video and statements before jumping on the LOCKEM UP AND LET THE BOYS IN PRISON SHOW EM WHO'S BOSS... ffs


That's how a lot of threads involving someone FAFO'ing their way to a prison sentence go. Why is it an issue now?


Just because you call people bad words and stir them up doesn't mean you're guilty of anything if you shoot somebody who first attacks you.

He's an idiot playing in a volatile environment to make a buck.

That does NOT make him guilty of a crime just because people hate the N word.

Doesn't make him good or that he should've been creating the situation either.

I'll wait till more information comes out and this isn't all harshly judged by outsiders simply because there were racial words used

Edit to add: We don't even really know an assumption I've made either... unless theres recordings I havent heard. I'm just going off of what he does. He shows dislike for people that don't look like him and calls them bad things so an educated guess is he did the same in this incident


So do you think this guy is not guilty?


I've made it clear what I think. I do not know and neither do you at this point unless better audio or video has emerged of what actually occurred. However, if he was first attacked deliberately because he said words the other person did not like, there's a very good defense.
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That defense goes out the window with his posts about actively pursuing using self-defense. At that point, it's premeditated and intent, regardless of who threw the first punch.

He went out looking to antagonize and for a reason to shoot someone. That's not self-defense. Here is his own testimony to the police where he admits to walking up to the man he shot. He doesn't straight admin to antagonizing, and you can tell he had pre-reversed bullet points, but it's clear that he instigated the issue.

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Womp womp.



Life comes at you fast.
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Hardcore Greg said:

HTownAg98 said:

He went way over the line and into provocation territory. If you delve into his social media, he's been looking for a fight for a while. You can't do that and then claim "free speech" or self-defense.

Actually, I think you can. I get where you are coming from, I just don't think the law should work that way. That just because he has said these things he could never be a victim of an assault with a self defense claim, just bc "he deserves it".

This guys is nuts though...a lot of these trashy social media provacateurs only pick on the weak...most of the black ones I have seen antagonize and harrass white and asian people who they know won't do sh**...or who might punch them but aren't going to stomp their lights out or kill them over words. He chose to F with the 6/60 crowd like an absolute psycho. That's the one group you simply cannot do this to.

And Americans (aka potential jurors) of all races have mostly been brainwashed since kindergarten to think it's ok since they have grievances over the past. Even if it turns out he shouldn't according to the facts of the case, this guy is going to do very hard time.

There are cases where self defense would be justified. If he was just walking down the street and someone started assaulting him unprovoked, then he'd have a very strong self defense case. But this situation isn't that. It's not just his speech that got him in trouble. It's his actions before and after that are going to make a defense attorney very rich (assuming he has money, which I bet he does) and land him in general pop.
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$1.25MM...lo-****ing-l

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Hardcore Greg said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

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and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime


Getting your ass beat can be both deserved and illegal. They are not mutually exclusive.

Where do you draw the line on what words morally warrant a violent assault? If I state a fact like "George Floyd was an illiterate career felon who violently robbed and terrorized a pregnant woman at gunpoint" and some brainwashed black person who looks up to that sack of sh** assaults me, was it deserved? Many black people would say yes...where do you stand? You see the slippery slope issue with "you deserve to get your ass beat for bad words because that's how the cavemen and pioneers did it" don't you?

If we lived in a more homogeneous and civilized society, I might be inclined to accept this notion...but we live in a society with a segment of the population who thinks it's ok to get violent and destroy a fast food restaurant and assault employees because they ran out of milk shakes. I don't like the thought of "it's illegal, but OK for them to beat my ass and gang stomp my lights out if I say words they don't like". NO OTHER GROUP BEHAVES LIKE THAT GROUP IN THIS REGARD, barring very rare exceptions. We routinely see videos of them jumping on peoples heads after they're knocked unconsciouss while their friends laugh and film it. I personally don't trust peoples judgement on what is "offensive enough for a violent beatdown" like you might.


If you walk up to people unprovoked and start calling them racial slurs I have no moral issue with you getting punched in the face. It absolutely should be a crime to do so in a civilized society, but that doesn't mean you didn't deserve it or that I should feel sorry for you.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Read the post again

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and yes physically attacking him for that should be a crime


Getting your ass beat can be both deserved and illegal. They are not mutually exclusive.

Where do you draw the line on what words morally warrant a violent assault? If I state a fact like "George Floyd was an illiterate career felon who violently robbed and terrorized a pregnant woman at gunpoint" and some brainwashed black person who looks up to that sack of sh** assaults me, was it deserved? Many black people would say yes...where do you stand? You see the slippery slope issue with "you deserve to get your ass beat for bad words because that's how the cavemen and pioneers did it" don't you?

If we lived in a more homogeneous and civilized society, I might be inclined to accept this notion...but we live in a society with a segment of the population who thinks it's ok to get violent and destroy a fast food restaurant and assault employees because they ran out of milk shakes. I don't like the thought of "it's illegal, but OK for them to beat my ass and gang stomp my lights out if I say words they don't like". NO OTHER GROUP BEHAVES LIKE THAT GROUP IN THIS REGARD, barring very rare exceptions. We routinely see videos of them jumping on peoples heads after they're knocked unconsciouss while their friends laugh and film it. I personally don't trust peoples judgement on what is "offensive enough for a violent beatdown" like you might.


If you walk up to people unprovoked and start calling them racial slurs I have no moral issue with you getting punched in the face. It absolutely should be a crime to do so in a civilized society, but that doesn't mean you didn't deserve it or that I should feel sorry for you.


Dear diary
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Zachary Klement said:

Play stupid games...


Sounds like the deceased played stupid games as well.
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Muy said:

Zachary Klement said:

Play stupid games...


Sounds like the deceased played stupid games as well.


That's the crazy thing. There is no deceased. You sure as hell would think so but nope. I think the fact that he shot himself in the fight will be a big part of the defense since that helps tremendously to show this wasn't a well planned and thought out shooting. It was done in fear due to being physically attacked.
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Might be tough to prove he was afraid given that he provoked the incident and has a history of instigating this type of ****

He will probably plea down from attempted whatever but hes gonna end up with some consequences for all this dumbassery.
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Oh I misread, thought he was arrested for murder. Definitely need more context on why he pulled a gun, and regardless of what a racists clown he is, that doesn't lose him his right to defend himself. He just made it so that he'd be more likely to need to defend himself than most people.
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HTownAg98 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

HTownAg98 said:

He went way over the line and into provocation territory. If you delve into his social media, he's been looking for a fight for a while. You can't do that and then claim "free speech" or self-defense.

Actually, I think you can. I get where you are coming from, I just don't think the law should work that way. That just because he has said these things he could never be a victim of an assault with a self defense claim, just bc "he deserves it".

This guys is nuts though...a lot of these trashy social media provacateurs only pick on the weak...most of the black ones I have seen antagonize and harrass white and asian people who they know won't do sh**...or who might punch them but aren't going to stomp their lights out or kill them over words. He chose to F with the 6/60 crowd like an absolute psycho. That's the one group you simply cannot do this to.

And Americans (aka potential jurors) of all races have mostly been brainwashed since kindergarten to think it's ok since they have grievances over the past. Even if it turns out he shouldn't according to the facts of the case, this guy is going to do very hard time.

There are cases where self defense would be justified. If he was just walking down the street and someone started assaulting him unprovoked, then he'd have a very strong self defense case. But this situation isn't that. It's not just his speech that got him in trouble. It's his actions before and after that are going to make a defense attorney very rich (assuming he has money, which I bet he does) and land him in general pop.

Just curious what makes you think he has money. He had a handyman/small scale construction business that he said was taken from him (probably his own failure and he can't own up to it). Maybe there is some daddy's money that we don't know about, but it's a leap imo to assume he has enough money to "make a defense attorney rich" imo.

The essence of your post though seems to kind of be arguing in favor of thought crimes. i.e. some Chicago underground rapper or banger talking sh** online, then he gets violently confronted and attacked for it, and uses a legal weapon to defend himself. I am removing the racial component from the equation, which I think a lot of people are overly focused on. If you say mean things, and have a track record of saying mean things, do you have to void any and all right to defend yourself if someone attacks you for saying mean things?

If he fries, it will very likely be because of his thought crimes and the fact that he was constantly provoking people prior to this incident. Not for the incident itself.
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Gaeilge said:

$1.25MM...lo-****ing-l




If a black guy did that to a white guy in Houston it would be a 20k bond and he would be released
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Gaeilge said:

$1.25MM...lo-****ing-l




Karmelo Anthony started with 1 million bond reduced to 250k on a very clear murder

This is set at 1.25 million on attempted murder charge (and others) "based upon the fact of how many people were here in the courtyard or at the courthouse"
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This will be interesting to watch. It had been around before this incident

https://www.givesendgo.com/HelpChud

Currently 150k (rounded up) and had been at 141k roughly an hour ago

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Help the Chud and his family

Dear friends, supporters, and champions of free speech,

My name is Dalton Eatherly, and I'm reaching out with a heavy heart, fighting to protect my family and my business. Just over one year ago, I started DLE Contracting in Clarksville, TN out of sheer necessity. I was fired from my previous contracting job after BLM activists targeted me over words I shared onlinejokes and opinions they twisted to end my career. With no other way to support my family and my precious 2-year-old son, I poured everything into this small business working tirelessly to provide for my family and build a future.

But now, that dream is under attack. Not for the quality of my work, but for what I say online. I've shared mild jokes, unfiltered thoughts, and yes, sometimes I've used the N-word in what I thought was edgy, harmless humor. I know it's controversial, but it's my right to speak freely. For that, hundreds of people in my city are slandering my business, spreading lies to tear down everything I've worked for. The hate has escalated to a horrifying level: I've received death threats so vile they shake me to my core. People threatening to rape and murder me, and even targeting my innocent 2-year-old son with unspeakable cruelty. As a father, hearing these threats against my little boy breaks my heart and keeps me up at night.

In the midst of this nightmare, a spark of hope emerged: I went viral on Instagram, gaining over 23,000 followers who connect with my story, my resilience, and my refusal to be silenced. People are beginning to stand up for American ideals and values. This platform is a chance to turn things around, but right now, I'm broke. The slander has crushed my business's income, and I'm struggling to keep food on the table, pay our bills, and protect my family from this onslaught. I need your help to bridge this gap and rebuild.

Your donation will go toward:

Covering basic living expenses to keep my family secure.

Exploring legal options to fight the slander and protect my family from these vicious threats.

Find new ways to create a sustainable income for me and my family.

This isn't just about moneyit's about standing up to a mob trying to destroy not just my family's future over words, but our rights to free speech as a whole. If you've ever felt silenced, attacked, or punished for your beliefs, you know this fight. My business, only a year old, was born from necessity after I was canceled once before, and now I'm facing it again. With your support, I can rise above this hate, provide for my family, and prove that cancel culture won't break us.

Every dollar, every share, every prayer means the world to us. Thank you for standing with my family in this battle for freedom and survival.

With gratitude,

Dalton Eatherly

Aka: ChudTheBuilder
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The D said:

Gaeilge said:

$1.25MM...lo-****ing-l




If a black guy did that to a white guy in Houston it would be a 20k bond and he would be released

Yep, there is a thread following this type of stuff very closely on the Houston board. Our modern justice system is racist AF, in favor of black and brown people, there is no debating that. Only a certified clown would attempt to argue otherwise. We see hardened criminals with huge rap sheets being let out on worse charges for much less all the time.

Whether this shooting was justified or not...zero percent change he stands a fair trial.
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TAMUallen said:

Gaeilge said:

$1.25MM...lo-****ing-l




Karmelo Anthony started with 1 million bond reduced to 250k on a very clear murder

This is set at 1.25 million on attempted murder charge (and others) "based upon the fact of how many people were here in the courtyard or at the courthouse"

This type of stuff is literally one of the reasons a ton of ordinary every day people are starting to feel the "fatigue" and actually sympathize with "out there" influencers like Chud the Builder....influencers they would have previously despised before the curtain was rolled back and so much was revealed.
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I'm not saying I agree with the bond value. I'm just laughing at it because this guy is a POS and all of his perceived clout is coming to a screeching halt currently.

The judge that set the bond is a Republican for what it's worth.
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But now, that dream is under attack. Not for the quality of my work, but for what I say online. I've shared mild jokes, unfiltered thoughts, and yes, sometimes I've used the N-word in what I thought was edgy, harmless humor. I know it's controversial, but it's my right to speak freely. For that, hundreds of people in my city are slandering my business, spreading lies to tear down everything I've worked for. The hate has escalated to a horrifying level: I've received death threats so vile they shake me to my core. People threatening to rape and murder me, and even targeting my innocent 2-year-old son with unspeakable cruelty. As a father, hearing these threats against my little boy breaks my heart and keeps me up at night.

This is what the bonehead does not get...freedom of speech does not guarantee protection from consequences of that speech. Using his logic, boycotting should be illegal because it is an attack on freedom of speech, when in reality, boycotting is freedom of speech.
 
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