Brad 98 said:

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I was very skeptical about this show at first, but wow was I wrong. I feel like we could talk so many theories and what-ifs every day until the 2nd season comes out. With it being the number 1 show on Apple TV, honestly how many seasons do you think we get, and if they cancel it will they let Vince wrap up the show?

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They won't cancel it.

Based on everything Gilligan has said so far, my guess is three to four seasons total. I don't get the impression that this is one that's going to run much longer than that. And as good as the show is, to be honest, I could see the premise getting a little stale after a third season or so, but if they billed the fourth season as the final one that feels perfect to me.

I didn't have Lalo Salamanca making a cameo in the Pluribus Season 1 finale on my Christmas wishlist but I'm not complaining. pic.twitter.com/qAitdsEZnp

— Cinema Goldmine (@cinemagoldmine) December 24, 2025

Even if ratings fall substantially (which is what it would take for apple to even consider messing with the show), VG is one of the biggest names in TV, had already made apple a crap ton of money, and the last thing they would want to do is alienate him, he's probably got several more shows in that they would want a piece of. The absolute worst case would be asking him to wrap up after season 3 or 4 well in advance so he could plan it out appropriately. And my guess is that he is smart enough that if the ratings fell badly he would do it himself preemptively to avoid that discussion.
But no chance they give him the stigma of an outright cancellation.

I don't think Manousos will be a villain, but I think he will be willing to go steps Carol won't, even after the revelation by Zoisa

We see how Carol softened him a little bit that instead of it all going to ****, he was experimenting with how to return consciousness to the individaul. Carol might be the one wanting to go scorched Earth and Manousos might need to be the one to walk her off the ledge with a plan to return the world to normal. It depends on how literal atom bomb is..

The reveal of the eggs earlier in the episode was so good at to what the hive would later reveal.

Also that opening was probably as close to perfection of an episode opener as what we would see in some of the Last of Us episodes. (Despite the shows flaws the openers are some of the best in TV imo). The moment she goes catatonic the singing stops, and they all walk away silent.

This is funny, but it's also an underrated moment. It shows how the definition of love changes almost instantly. Still real, but not truly reciprocal. It kind of foreshadowed the end.

and you see how she ran up and hit her mark precisely? while perfectly delivering her lines? yeah a lot of your favs could neverrrr. that’s why she’s the goat. #pluribus pic.twitter.com/EDT2NEsjjW

— gabby (@ceceheaumeaux) December 25, 2025

TCTTS said:

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It’s coming…. https://t.co/22XNhQFi0K pic.twitter.com/6jIPAYElNP

— RheaCrave 💋 (@inniemarkhelly) December 24, 2025

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Definitely doing a rewatch to pay more attention to the plot of Carol's books. Now it makes more sense why the Joined are so interested in them.

TCTTS said:

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schmendeler said:

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"Atom bomb."

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So do we think an actual atom bomb is in the crate (yes, I get the callback), to be used as a potential threat/collateral - or - has Carol somehow figured out a cure/fix, a key aspect of her plan is in the crate, and "atom bomb" is a figure of speech (she's going to wipe the virus off the face of the earth while saving humanity)?

Then again, Manousos seems to be well on his way to figuring it out as well, and would obviously be integral to the operation, to the point where Carol probably couldn't figure out much else without him.

Just wondering how others read that moment.

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I believe it's an actual atom bomb. I don't think she's thought it through at this point beyond the self-defense threat it represents. She can destroy Albuquerque with it if the Joined come back. I bet Manousos can find a better use for it, though.

so the book carol is reading here #pluribus

(The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin) pic.twitter.com/lrHCcqcW2d

— rhi (@toothgapz) December 24, 2025

I read The Left Hand of Darkness years ago when I was making my way through Le Guin's sci-fi novels (not her fantasy series like Earthsea.) I chuckled when the scene showed Carol reading a well-worn copy of TLHoD. It was obviously a favorite book of hers, and definitely would be a major influence on her development of Raban in her own writing. Also, Le Guin was a truly masterful writer. Carol would absolutely regard Le Guin's writing as a model for her own.

I don't find the space virus/hive mind concept nearly as implausible as the high-level degree of functionality of the language translator app they're using.