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Just started this one but it is NUTS already! Interview with former Air Force electronic intelligence and then NSA guy, Dan Sherman, whose mom was abducted by aliens while she was pregnant with Dan, and the aliens injected some sort of genetic code into him so he could intuitively communicate with aliens - ultimately becoming part of Project Preserve Destiny.





Take a look at some of his other historical podcasts on this subject. You will be astonished as to how it is pieced together. Don't just laugh at it because of how 'out there' it sounds. Jesse is one of the absolute best in terms of who he has interviewed and how he doesn't just 'trust me bro'. Here is what he posted as a followup on X:



Truth is 1000% stranger than fiction and fiction was used as 'truth'.
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TKEAg04 said:

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Does it offer concrete proof? No.

I'm not saying these folks haven't heard some things, or talked to some people, or maybe even seen stuff.
I'm at the point where talk is cheap. Show me a spacecraft, not a blip or light orb on a screen. Give me an alien, alive or dead; not a Peruvian doll mummy alien made with llama and spider monkey bones.


Two things...

1) You might be at that point, but the vast majority of the world isn't. They're not ready to even consider these possibilities (not just "we're not alone," but "we're not alone on this planet"), so it's going to take baby steps like this documentary to get them there, and to catch them up on the last eight years (since the 2017 New York Times article, Elizondo, Grusch, etc), which then lead to the last eight decades (since Roswell), which then potentially lead to the thousands of years prior (seeing as this phenomenon has likely been with us all along).

2) This kind of talk isn't cheap. Again, the sheer number, caliber, and credibility of officials coming forward in this documentary is objectively significant, if not staggering. Not to mention, in a court of law, circumstantial evidence - i.e. indirect evidence that suggests a fact through a logical inference based on other facts - can absolutely convict. Never mind in combination with first-hand testimony. In other words, if a jury were to hear the collective testimony of every credible pilot, government official, military official, nuclear technician, etc, that jury would absolutely rule in favor of the phenomenon being real. To that end, this documentary is basically a parade of "star witness" testimony, all on the same stand, so to speak. And that's huge.

On number 1. Stereotypical human will not know how to process this once it's in the open. Imagine the insanity if all of a sudden everybody 'experiences' on a very large scale. Not sure I want to be anywhere near that.

*drip*
*drip*
*drip*

10% of the population, like people on this thread, will be taken aback and will really consider the implications of concrete evidence.

10% of the population will immediately politicize it.

80% of the population will be thinking about their normal lives. Get the kids to school, go to work, go grocery shopping, pay the bills, etc. Maybe watch a little more CNN for a few weeks.
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Duckhook said:

TKEAg04 said:

TCTTS said:

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Does it offer concrete proof? No.

I'm not saying these folks haven't heard some things, or talked to some people, or maybe even seen stuff.
I'm at the point where talk is cheap. Show me a spacecraft, not a blip or light orb on a screen. Give me an alien, alive or dead; not a Peruvian doll mummy alien made with llama and spider monkey bones.


Two things...

1) You might be at that point, but the vast majority of the world isn't. They're not ready to even consider these possibilities (not just "we're not alone," but "we're not alone on this planet"), so it's going to take baby steps like this documentary to get them there, and to catch them up on the last eight years (since the 2017 New York Times article, Elizondo, Grusch, etc), which then lead to the last eight decades (since Roswell), which then potentially lead to the thousands of years prior (seeing as this phenomenon has likely been with us all along).

2) This kind of talk isn't cheap. Again, the sheer number, caliber, and credibility of officials coming forward in this documentary is objectively significant, if not staggering. Not to mention, in a court of law, circumstantial evidence - i.e. indirect evidence that suggests a fact through a logical inference based on other facts - can absolutely convict. Never mind in combination with first-hand testimony. In other words, if a jury were to hear the collective testimony of every credible pilot, government official, military official, nuclear technician, etc, that jury would absolutely rule in favor of the phenomenon being real. To that end, this documentary is basically a parade of "star witness" testimony, all on the same stand, so to speak. And that's huge.

On number 1. Stereotypical human will not know how to process this once it's in the open. Imagine the insanity if all of a sudden everybody 'experiences' on a very large scale. Not sure I want to be anywhere near that.

*drip*
*drip*
*drip*

10% of the population, like people on this thread, will be taken aback and will really consider the implications of concrete evidence.

10% of the population will immediately politicize it.

80% of the population will be thinking about their normal lives. Get the kids to school, go to work, go grocery shopping, pay the bills, etc. Maybe watch a little more CNN for a few weeks.

I still think about my normal life. I hold very conservative views on politics, religion and my family. I go to church, I am a Christian, and KNOW without a doubt in my mind that GOD is very real and that Jesus saved me when I was 14 years old at a national youth gathering with my church.

I have also experienced things outside of what I can explain. So have others in my family. It's OK to hold other beliefs. I do have empathy for people who say that they have done things or worked in programs outside of what the everyday person thinks is possible. Stigmata is a very potent tool that I have come to learn is wielded with razor sharp accuracy and is swung like a drunken sailor just hoping to land a blow.

I also haven't watched CNN since the last time I was in an airport and didn't have any other option. Mainstream media sucks.
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You're in the first 10%. Dipping a toe in the second 10%.
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I know.
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None of the coming revelations are incompatible with the Logos of John 1.

Humans are one of many creations, some faithful and some fallen, and He's been to all of them, exactly like He told Howard Storm during his NDE, flung skyward after Howard cried out in the approach to the lake of fire.
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One of the commonalities I mentioned above is "2nd Heaven" and "silver cord" - including documented hospital cases where people are clinically dead for minutes and even much longer.

These realms are real, and here's 2 good audio releases that provide some context.

The non-material seems to be an expansive and porous series of places, which again doesn't exclude materialist other creations like aliens. Only that our "dimension" or "realm" is one that exists.

- EP: 365 Blurry Creatures
The Hell Question: What Near-Death Experiences Reveal About Judgment and Eternity with John Burke

- This is a must listen. One hell of a story, so to speak

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It really does feel like The Age of Disclosure is not only gaining more and more legit traction, but is ultimately going to be part of the zeitgeist to an extent, a big topic of conversation next month, etc. Again, it's not going to prove anything, but that's not the measuring stick it should be judged by. It's simply meant to acclimate, and to that end you can literally see both Kelly and Hanson being swayed in this segment…

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That should be very interesting. Anduril is on the cutting edge of drone technology.
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Yeah I caught that one too. One of the most impactful blurry creatures episodes I have ever heard.
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MosesHallEnforcer said:

Yeah I caught that one too. One of the most impactful blurry creatures episodes I have ever heard.

Excellent podcast!
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More commonality, and seems honest to me

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Quote:

A Dose of Reality from Karl Nell

"My view is that this cycle [of disclosure], essentially, has ended, and we should take stock of what worked and what didn't work, to think about maybe a new way forward." ~Nell

~Excellent Discussion~

"By not passing [the UAPDA], Congress has written themselves out of any type of way forward." ~Nell

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Karl Nell: "I guess the postulate I've got is that this recent cycle of disclosure - that we might say started in 2017 with the Navy videos and @LueElizondo coming out as a whistleblower, making various assertions - that cycle of disclosure is effectively ended with the failure to pass the UAP Disclosure Act. and with sort of the third in the series of hearings on the topic that I think, increasingly, have moved the media less and less."

(Brutal reality.)

Nell: "And so, in some sense, it seems like the people that have been at the forefront of this recent cycle have said what they've had to say [and[ it's starting to become stale in the sense of being repetitive. The conversation isn't necessarily advancing to new topics. But really, more importantly, the mechanism in order to which to address these whistleblower issues has not gained traction.

"And ,you know, particularly, to kind of maybe amplify upon that, I think the essence of that Schumer/Rounds amendment was to create a management structure that you could argue, perhaps, mirrored the original process that was maybe put in place by Truman and Eisenhower to manage this topic, but to do it in a manner that was assured to have proper congressional oversight and proper transparency and accountability to elected officials. Which had ceased to pertain at some point in the past.

"And so, essentially, by not passing this, Congress has written themselves out of any type of way forward, and without a control group to manage the policy aspect, then the government's really not gonna be in a position to deal with ramification of any released material. And so, increasing whistleblowers, increasing attention, is gonna force the government into a reactive mode and really a hunker-down mode.

"So, my view is that this cycle essentially has ended, and we should take stock of what worked and what didn't work to think about maybe a new way forward. So that's sort of my view on the current state of play."

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NoahAg said:

Sorry to rain on y'all's parade.



I wish these types of videos would get more attention. I have not seen this one before but saw another debunking video a few years ago that showed how three other popular UFO videos were just normal things.


I think the whole thing about aliens is all bs. The government likes keeping their top secret tech a secret which could be some of what people are seeing and the rest is just misunderstanding how cameras work.
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Those types of videos don't get more attention because for every debunking video there's always another video (or five) debunking the debunking video. In fact, I'm sure I could find multiple videos "debunking" that guy's video.

That's not to say that guy is wrong.

I'm merely pointing out that it's an endless cycle with every one of these releases. A credible or credible-ish video is released, the debunkers come out in force, the debunkers of the debunkers come back just as hard, and round and round they go.

Sometimes the initial debunkers are right.

Sometimes the debunkers of the debunkers are right.

Because none of us are experts, most of the time we end up having no clue. In the end, who you're going to believe almost always comes down to which side of the line you already fall.

If you're a "believer" you're likely going to listen to the "It's alien!" folks.

If you're a "skeptic" you're likely going to listen to the "It's not alien!" folks.

As for that video, in particular, sure, I'm leaning "not alien" as well, but that's mostly because I haven't seen any one of any credibility defend it for weeks. It vanished like a fart in the wind, yet people still keep trying to use it as some kind of emphatic dunk on "believers," when this kind of thing happens all the time. Also, just because a few videos can be debunked doesn't mean all videos like it are prosaic.
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Aligned, Multiple-Transient Events in the First Palomar Sky Survey by @DrBeaVillarroel et al.

If you want a plain-English breakdown of what this peer-reviewed discovery really says, here are the key points

- Scientists re-examined 1950s Palomar Observatory sky plates, captured years before humanity had the ability to launch satellites.

-They discovered multiple, aligned flashes of light that appeared and vanished within a single long exposure - real, point-like events that didn't exist on plates taken minutes later.

-Each flash was confirmed across two independent digital scans (DSS and SuperCOSMOS), eliminating scanner noise, dust, or chemical flaws.

-These alignments weren't random. The strongest event showed a 3.9 alignment significance - a configuration far too precise to occur by chance.

-A 22 test comparing areas inside and outside Earth's shadow proved the flashes depended on sunlight reflections.
When the Earth blocked sunlight, the events disappeared completely.

- The authors conclude this behaviour matches reflections from flat, mirror-like objects at geosynchronous altitude- 36,000 km above Earth.

-All conventional explanations were systematically ruled out:
Meteors (too fast, would leave streaks)
Cosmic rays (appear on only one scan)
Atmospheric phenomena (don't align)
Photographic defects or "ghosting" (don't repeat across scans).

-The most striking case occurred 27 July 1952, the exact weekend of the Washington D.C. UFO wave.
Radar operators, pilots, and ground witnesses reported unknown craft over the capital while, across the country, Palomar recorded three aligned transients in the same night sky.

-A companion analysis found statistical correlations (~3 ) between these transients, historic nuclear weapons tests, and independent UAP reports.
The authors note this overlap "deserves serious attention."

-One hypothesis: these objects became visible as humanity began detonating nuclear weapons our first planet-wide technological signal.

-The team also calculated an upper limit on possible non-terrestrial artifacts near Earth: fewer than one per million km, yet non-zero meaning even a single confirmed case rewrites our understanding of near-Earth space.

-The paper situates this within technosignature research, describing it as the first optical search for artificial objects predating the space age.

Their closing statement:

"Whether or not these events ultimately point to the existence of non-terrestrial artifacts, the identification of statistically improbable, spatially aligned transients in pre-satellite data represents a novel observational anomaly deserving of further scientific attention."

In other words -
something reflective, structured, and unknown was above Earth before we were capable of putting anything there.

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again, here's how we resolve -

we went to the moon, we haven't been back, NASA being major liars that lie, honest people like Edgar Mitchell dropping big hints, Buzz's sister talking about aliens….

And let's admit it, deniers having excellent and detailed arguments. Well……

We went, saw structures, saw entities, and were warned off.

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No idea how legit this is, but I keep seeing it posted...


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File this report on Shield AI under the heading "current military drone development" to help with identification when watching UAP videos. Some of the unusual things we see could be prototypes like these. Shield AI's X bat in particular has a traditional saucer shape from certain angles, as well as VTOL capability.



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Officially in on this thread now.

Hold me.
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Officially in on this thread now.

Hold me.


Thunder buddies?!
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As Kurt Angle used to say, "it's true, it's true, it's damned true"

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David Paulides on this clip:

"I need everyone to remember what she is saying and why would she be that comfortable about saying it, why, because it's true."
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Reminder that

- "angel" and "demon" were narrow terms for 2nd Temple era Biblical authors, and "angelic" and "demonic" are more accurate for how we use the terms now….meaning entities of various "types" exist, some faithful and some fallen

- 1 Enoch has been validated as BC by the Dead Sea Scrolls, was indisputably venerated by Apostles, and a major reason the Pharisees wanted to stone Jesus ("Son of Man" is divinity interacting with His creation in 1 Enoch, as an aside other parts are later additions)

- trustworthy NDE experiencers such as Howard Storm state that Jesus said such entities, especially tricksters, do exist in the 2nd Heaven (IMO St. Paul had an NDE also) …. AND that aliens exist, and He's been to everybody, meaning that humans here know the Logos of John 1 as a Nazarene man
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Luna is a complete and total crackpot. No one should take anything she says seriously.
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Yeah? You been in multiple Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilitates?

You've had your witnesses get their medical records very illegally leaked?
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Not really UAP-related, but still cool...

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Russia always seems to get the best videos of meteors.
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Very good summary from Alberino.

Again, he's a believing, informed Protestant, has traveled widely, AND has friendships and contacts in DC that we would be jealous of.

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Definitions and foundational terms really matter here and he has a gift of explaining these.

The Phenomenon is both / and -

one of which is physical / metaphysical
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