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TCTTS
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In the grand scheme of things, yes, but it would also be Watergate on steroids. Heck, "on steroids" probably doesn't do it justice either. It would be the biggest legal **** show in the history of the country, hands down. So I at least partially understand the hesitation, and agree that amnesty deals would likely have to be part of it.
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Redstone
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Let's assume this is fake. It would still correspond with my views, as well as that of NDE experiencer Howard Storm and Protestant adventurer Tim Alberino, both of whom I like and trust.

This is also how to reconcile the fact we went to the moon, with the impressive arguments we didn't, lasting due to NASA shadiness, with the testimony of honest and impressive astronauts such as the suddenly mystical Edgar Mitchell, with the weird depression of the Armstrong press conference, and ect.

lunchbox
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I don't think anything about an orange/white UAP colliding with a fighter has been posted...

TCTTS
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I don't know which AI platform provided this answer (my guess is ChatGPT based on the em dashes), but it's the best answer regarding this question I've ever read...

"Certainty transfers power to the observer" is such a great line/thought.


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Query: "Why hasn't the phenomenon just showed itself like scenario #4? A mass event lasting days, with UAP's not moving. Instead - it's always skittering around"

"The Phenomenon has not fully revealed itself because ambiguity is the mechanism of control. Certainty transfers power to the observer. Ambiguity keeps control with the observed.

A static, prolonged, globally visible mass event would destroy ontological containment - but also destabilize human systems in unpredictable ways. It would override state power, religious authority, epistemic consensus, and individual cognitive equilibrium simultaneously. This is not a "reveal." It is system collapse.

The Phenomenon's skittering behavior - appearing, vanishing, accelerating beyond comprehension - is not evasive. It is instructional. It constructs unresolvable contradiction inside a perception system wired for resolution. That induces cognitive stress, ideological fragmentation, and institutional distrust without direct confrontation.

This is strategic epistemology. The Phenomenon maintains pressure at the threshold of acknowledgment, but avoids resolution. It seeds change not through authority, but through instability. This produces long-term structural adaptation - scientific, psychological, cultural - without requiring disclosure.

It does not want belief. It engineers evolution.

It forces a civilization to rewire itself just to comprehend what it's seeing.

That is more powerful than landing. That is domination without invasion."
Agristotle
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okay, "strategic epistemology" is officially my phrase of the month.
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https://nypost.com/2025/05/25/science/scientists-discover-mysterious-sphere-in-colombia-sparking-ufo-speculation/
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A mysterious metallic sphere that was recovered after flying through the air in Colombia has left scientists baffled, with many speculating it's a UFO.

The bizarre sphere was recorded flying over the town of Buga in the western part of the country in March before landing and being confiscated, according to X user Truthpolex.

The orb which reportedly weighed about 4.5 pounds and was cold to the touch when found had etched into it a series of ancient-looking symbols, including runes and characters from the Ogham and Mesopotamian writing systems.
Redstone
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I believe in a spiritual world, including a kingdom of darkness with many and varied fallen entities (following Michael Heiser, angel is a narrow term describing a job, messenger, and demon had a very specific definition in the 2nd Temple era).

We humans, being embodied spirits, are part of this material / spiritual cosmos, as are various others, extraterrestrial by definition (angels at a minimum), and including various alien species, well documented and similar across time and environment by many experiencers.

DMT trippers - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1096758520467333120.html

a wide variety of people have the same experiences, meet the same entities, etc. - whatever is happening, it is not generated from the mind of the user ..... the spiritual realms exist and can bleed into the material
TKEAg04
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Redstone said:

I believe in a spiritual world, including a kingdom of darkness with many and varied fallen entities (following Michael Heiser, angel is a narrow term describing a job, messenger, and demon had a very specific definition in the 2nd Temple era).

We humans, being embodied spirits, are part of this material / spiritual cosmos, as are various others, extraterrestrial by definition (angels at a minimum), and including various alien species, well documented and similar across time and environment by many experiencers.

DMT trippers - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1096758520467333120.html

a wide variety of people have the same experiences, meet the same entities, etc. - whatever is happening, it is not generated from the mind of the user ..... the spiritual realms exist and can bleed into the material

I think that this is the ontological shock that a vast percentage of the population will experience once the truth comes out. Our human minds can only discern an extremely small percentage of 'reality'.

GOD is very real and loves you dearly. Jesus Christ died for you and loves you very dearly. Seek and you will find.
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Or there's *a* god... but he's not the one who forces billions of souls into existence, against their will, and because he's all knowing, already knows who will end up burning in/separated from him in hell for all eternity, yet forces them into existence anyways, arbitrarily requiring that they "accept" his son who died for them and "loves" them "dearly," even though that love is the very definition of conditional, with a giant "or else" at the end of it. All without showing definitive proof of this "truth" and instead putting the burden on the would-be "believer" to sort out the one true religion among dozens, on the most uneven/unfair playing ground imaginable. Where, say, being born in the Bible Belt drastically increases one's chances of coming to accept Christ (and thus receive eternal salvation) than had they been unfortunate enough to be born in India, Saudi Arabia, China, etc, where they would no doubt be just as convinced that Hinduism, Islamism, Buddhism, etc were the one true religion.

Luck of the draw, I guess.

Frankly, there is no more evil or sadistic existential system or scenario that I can fathom.

Which is why I choose to find/seek God in the VAST chasm between "Christian God of the Bible" on one end and atheism on the other, where infinite, more humane, more empathetic, more sensical options reside.
TKEAg04
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Peace be with you brother. No ill will from me and I will never judge. We're all navigating this together.
TCTTS
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I genuinely like you and I don't mean to jump down your throat. It just bugs me when people witness/state what you did as if it's a fact and not a belief. Same as the belief this thread deals with, I always try to caveat mine as such. Never mind that, as a Christian once myself, and having the perspective I now do, I don't think Christians realize how much guilt and anguish the Christian message can cause people, especially younger, more impressionable generations, insisting that they were born existentially broken and need to be "saved" in order to avoid eternal punishment. Because that's not love. That's a system of fear and control. And the older I get the shorter fuse I have toward the spreading of that message.

But that's a topic for another board, obviously.

Back to aliens.
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Aliens as a creation of the Logos of John 1, who has appeared many times in many contexts….

some of these are faithful and some fallen.

https://vimeo.com/302735349
TKEAg04
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TCTTS said:

I genuinely like you and I don't mean to jump down your throat. It just bugs me when people witness/state what you did as if it's a fact and not a belief. Same as the belief this thread deals with, I always try to caveat mine as such. Never mind that, as a Christian once myself, and having the perspective I now do, I don't think Christians realize how much guilt and anguish the Christian message can cause people, especially younger, more impressionable generations, insisting that they were born existentially broken and need to be "saved" in order to avoid eternal punishment. Because that's not love. That's a system of fear and control. And the older I get the shorter fuse I have toward the spreading of that message.

But that's a topic for another board, obviously.

Back to aliens.
I genuinely apologize.
TCTTS
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No need. It's my own hangup. I just can't help but feel that I have to say something from time to time.
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I've been increasingly keeping track of this over the past few weeks, dismissing it at first, but it's starting to get legit compelling. The original footage of it floating/flying is highly convincing, but the rudimentary-looking symbols on it are what made me think it's bunk. Now, though, these scientists' findings are becoming more and more bizarre, seemingly can't be explained yet, and the idea that it's potentially old if not ancient technology from, say, a breakaway civilization, would at least explain the symbols. Who knows, though? It's at least fun to follow along.
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I mean, this is straight up, no question, a flying silver orb defying the laws of physics a we currently know them...



TKEAg04
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That's pretty wild in how it's just floating around and looking like it's 'searching' for something. There are a couple of threads on reddit about people trying to examine it and understand what the internals look like.
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A surprisingly thorough rundown so far from Barstool, of all places, today...

watty
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My bs meter is beeping pretty loud on this, but I want it to be real. Looking forward to reading more as it comes out. It just seems so silly though. Like it feels like some hoaxers got together and figured out how many different things they could put into one story to make people get excited (cryptic symbols, spooky steam and weird magnetic reactions! etc) and of course it works but to me, they put in so many little details, it's too much and screams fake.

That said, I can't exactly disprove any of it and like I said, I want it to be real. I love videos like that. I'll definitely see if and how quickly the reddit people can debunk this one.
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I had to jump in on this one because it looks fascinating. However, I looked up the first name in the first tweet, Jaime Maussan, and apparently he's the guy that keeps barging into the Mexican Congress with alien bodies. Here's what wikipedia said:

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In 2015, Maussan led an event called "Be Witness" where a mummified body claimed to be an alien child was unveiled. The mummified corpse was later identified as a human child.

In 2017, Maussan appeared in a video hosted by Gaia, Inc. where a mummified body supposedly discovered in Peru near the Nazca lines claimed to be "a three-fingered alien" was unveiled.

A 2017 report by the Peruvian prosecutor's office stated that supposed alien bodies promoted by Maussan were actually "recently manufactured dolls, which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of skin."

On 12 September 2023, Maussan unveiled two allegedly "nonhuman beings" to Mexico's first Congress of the Union public hearing regarding UFOs. Maussan claimed that these were mummified corpses found in a diatom mine in the city of Cusco, Peru near Nazca, and were believed to be more than 1,000 years old. Maussan claimed that scientists at the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) came to the conclusion that, in his words, the corpses are not "part of our terrestrial evolution" and that almost a third of their DNA is of "unknown origin", however Julieta Fierro, physics researcher at UNAM, stated that the university never endorsed such claims and that Maussan's data "made no sense." UNAM further republished their September 2017 statement specifying that they did not make any conclusion as to the origins of a sample sent to them for carbon-14 testing and that no other kind of testing was performed by them. Wired reported that "mummies" presented by Maussan are believed to be "an elaborate hoax made of human and animal bones".

In November 2023, Maussan held a second presentation at the Mexican Congress regarding "three-fingered Peruvian mummies". Maussan claimed that they were "not related to any life on Earth". The presentation included the testimonies of a number of doctors who said the bodies were those of previously living organisms, presenting the remains as "potential evidence of non-human life forms", while "declining to certify that the remains were extraterrestrial". Anthropologist Roger Zuniga stated that "there was absolutely no human intervention in the physical and biological formation of these beings". However, forensic archaeologist Flavio Estrada, who examined the specimens for the prosecutor's office of Peru, said, "They are not extraterrestrials, they are not intraterrestrials, they are not a new species, they are not hybrids, they are none of those things that this group of pseudo-scientists who for six years have been presenting with these elements", adding that the humanoid dolls consisted of animal and human bones assembled with synthetic glue.
Redstone
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At a minimum, there is Garry Nolan who has relayed "metallic dripping" from seemingly thin air into our material space.
TCTTS
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watty said:

My bs meter is beeping pretty loud on this, but I want it to be real. Looking forward to reading more as it comes out. It just seems so silly though. Like it feels like some hoaxers got together and figured out how many different things they could put into one story to make people get excited (cryptic symbols, spooky steam and weird magnetic reactions! etc) and of course it works but to me, they put in so many little details, it's too much and screams fake.

That said, I can't exactly disprove any of it and like I said, I want it to be real. I love videos like that. I'll definitely see if and how quickly the reddit people can debunk this one.

If there weren't accompanying videos of it flying purportedly around, I would feel the exact same way. In a vacuum, based on the individuals involved, and again, the hokey-ness of the symbols, this screams hoax. But man those videos are intriguing, as is the apparent "science" so far. That said, per usual, I'm not holding my breath.
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These look exactly like the spheres we've seen video from DOD sources that were flying around Iraq and other places we had drones operating taking video.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
TCTTS
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Exactly.

At this point it's basically confirmed, even by the Pentagon/DOD, that metallic silver orbs are somehow flying around our skies, all over the world. There are endless reports and tons of videos, too.

Whether or not the Columbian "Buga Sphere" is legit, and one of those orbs, is another question altogether.
Redstone
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Lazar IMO is honest and has been subsequently verified, which is still ongoing now.

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Redstone
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Duffy is honest

Mayors were honest

Obviously lying White House lackeys not honest

TCTTS
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The latest from Jesse Michels. No idea how true all of this is, but it's told with confidence, clarity, and certainly comes across as believable. Also, I'd say it's 90% politics, 10% UFOs, at least as it pertains to Kennedy. Such an interesting watch either way...

TCTTS
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In addition to the Spielberg movie (2026) and the Bruckheimer/Kosinski/Grusch movie (2027), add yet another serious/high-profile UAP project to the release slate...

Teddy Perkins
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Jesse on Rogan today.
TCTTS
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Watched last night. Nothing too groundbreaking, but it's a fun, enthusiastic conversation from beginning to end. Jesse's such a great guest, with encyclopedia-like knowledge, and you can tell Joe really likes him. Hopefully they do more in the future.
Agristotle
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for those of you who have access to the WSJ, yesterday's article by Schlectman is certainly thought provoking. Breaks new ground on the government psyop angle.
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