I Know I've Been Harsh on Earley

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AgFan1974 said:

Just Tired said:

W said:

what's the plan to replace the three 1st rounders at the top of the lineup?


it shouldn't take much to replace that grand total of 4 runs in the last two season-defining games.

Those dudes got us there and taking a pot-shot at them is insanity.


If the goal is omaha they got us nowhere. better than last year but that's just debating degrees of failure.
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B-1 83 said:

agsalaska said:

The sooner we fire him the faster we can start competing for Championships.

Gosh, maybe we can pick up the coach from UCLA or Georgia Tech. Surely they'll be fired after this weekend….


Seriously GT you must be young they're one of the all time college baseball chokers. Theyve been choking since Nomar, Varitek, Texeira. GT always chokes now like 37 years.
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Hall retired last year
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Different head coach at GaTech now I believe, but he completely botched his use of pitchers in the deciding game yesterday against OU.
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Scotty Appleton said:

Hall retired last year


Yes fixed it but Ramsey is picking up where he left off.
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Scotty Appleton said:

So, who is a reasonable "no-brainer/guaranteed" pitching coach that is going to leave where he is to join a young coach on the hot seat?

I have read hundreds of fire Kelly posts for months, but that question above never gets addressed.
None of them. Good thing Earley isn't on the hot seat
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I think a minor league pitching coach from either the Seattle or Cleveland organizations (the two best MLB pitching labs) could be had. Even if he's out after one year he'd bring a more rounded perspective back to the pros.
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They need to go get someone like that (similar to Weiner) who is going to embrace a pitching lab and analytics
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A lot of this fire JK stuff is just sheer idiotic reactionary ranting. Pitching sucked, so let's fire the pitching coach. That's about as deep as the thinking gets for a lot of folks


Why can't people disagree without being called idiotic?

He was just fired, so is Mike an idiot?
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Captain Pablo said:

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A lot of this fire JK stuff is just sheer idiotic reactionary ranting. Pitching sucked, so let's fire the pitching coach. That's about as deep as the thinking gets for a lot of folks


Why can't people disagree without being called idiotic?

He was just fired, so is Mike an idiot?


Even smart people can engage in idiotic reactionary ranting. I certainly do, every time the umpire makes a ball/strike call I disagree with. Fortunately, those aren't written down for posterity.
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Hank the Grifter said:

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I don't believe Earley is a long term option, but think he deserves one more year and will get it. Have zero faith we will ascend to being consistently in Super Regionals with him at the helm

This is the logic I just simply do not understand. "He's not gonna work out long term but deserves another year." On what planet does that make sense? If he ain't the guy, then get rid of him. Why postpone the inevitable and set the program further back?

He showed improvement from Year 1 to Year 2. Not sure you are going to be able to hire who you want if you fire a coach you knew was young and inexperienced 2 years into the job. Stability is an important factor in good coaches leaving their previous stops to come here. If you are firing coaches after one bad year or doing so in bad faith(i.e. firing a coach that had one of the biggest leaps in success from last year to this year) then you just end up hiring another Earley because no one with real credentials is going to step away from a successful program to take a job where they can't trust the AD to be reasonable with their decisions.
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twk said:

Captain Pablo said:

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A lot of this fire JK stuff is just sheer idiotic reactionary ranting. Pitching sucked, so let's fire the pitching coach. That's about as deep as the thinking gets for a lot of folks


Why can't people disagree without being called idiotic?

He was just fired, so is Mike an idiot?


Even smart people can engage in idiotic reactionary ranting. I certainly do, every time the umpire makes a ball/strike call I disagree with. Fortunately, those aren't written down for posterity.


Well the posters must not have been that idiotic, unless you want to lump Coach Earley in with them
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Agmaniacmike12 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

Agmaniacmike12 said:

I don't believe Earley is a long term option, but think he deserves one more year and will get it. Have zero faith we will ascend to being consistently in Super Regionals with him at the helm

This is the logic I just simply do not understand. "He's not gonna work out long term but deserves another year." On what planet does that make sense? If he ain't the guy, then get rid of him. Why postpone the inevitable and set the program further back?

He showed improvement from Year 1 to Year 2. Not sure you are going to be able to hire who you want if you fire a coach you knew was young and inexperienced 2 years into the job. Stability is an important factor in good coaches leaving their previous stops to come here. If you are firing coaches after one bad year or doing so in bad faith(i.e. firing a coach that had one of the biggest leaps in success from last year to this year) then you just end up hiring another Earley because no one with real credentials is going to step away from a successful program to take a job where they can't trust the AD to be reasonable with their decisions.


Nah

"No coach will come here" is right up there with "we have to keep this recruiting class together" among non-reasons to keep a coach

With guaranteed contracts, they'll come

Besides, I don't want a new coach that is scared of getting fired
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Scotty Appleton said:

So, who is a reasonable "no-brainer/guaranteed" pitching coach that is going to leave where he is to join a young coach on the hot seat?

I have read hundreds of fire Kelly posts for months, but that question above never gets addressed.


Following a down year, I say got get Yeskie.
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IslanderAg04 said:

Scotty Appleton said:

So, who is a reasonable "no-brainer/guaranteed" pitching coach that is going to leave where he is to join a young coach on the hot seat?

I have read hundreds of fire Kelly posts for months, but that question above never gets addressed.


Following a down year, I say got get Yeskie.


Wasn't Texags celebrating when he left?

And he just won a championship there a year ago, why would he leave? They had a down year but it's still a more stable situation than here
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a.froman said:

t - cam said:

Once you hired Earley you had to be willing to grow with him some. After a disaster last year the team made a ton of progress this season being a border line top 8 seed. They were dealt a top 3 hardest regional and lost their best pitcher right before the tournament.

I'd caution everyone basing their feelings too much on single tournament outcomes. Just like in basketball, it oversimplifies things way too much.

I'd expect changes are coming on the staff and hopefully a nice portal haul.

You went risky and now need to support your decision. What you don't want to see is you bail on him too early and he's the next Vitello for someone else.

Why do you say we were given a tough regional? 2 sub Power 4 teams and a Power 4 team that was 1-11 versus Quad 1 competition. Seems like a pretty good draw especially when you didn't even see USC's best pitcher.

Again, at what program have you seen a staff change make the directory of the program change. We have tried this numerous times with football to never see different results. They all resulted in us firing the head coach.


I'm not making things up. Pretty much everyone had it as a top 3 hardest regional.
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currie-s said:

I am concerned that if we fire JK, it will be difficult to hire a decent pitching coach, because candidates will know that Earley is on the hot seat. The same can be said for recruiting players next year. I wanted to give Earley a shot up front in order to keep our guys and maintain the programs momentum. But after this year, I think maybe it's time to move forward. If we stick with Earley, there needs to be a multi year commitment to let him try and figure it all out.

Players, coaches, staff... EVERYBODY, EVERYWHERE doesn't assume more than a year at this point. Team rosters and coaches turn over rapidly in the NIL era.

Thus, the other team's coach "is on the hot seat" recruiting tactic isn't near as powerful anymore.
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They were the exact same and honestly, we missed out on at-least 2-3 key kids every year because of the facilities. It's exactly like that. Why do you think he complained about it religiously.
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Rip the band aid off NOW. From first nationally last season to also rans, again. Earley ain't it. Stop settling for this %#*^%!
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Cannot believe some of yall actually have degrees, let alone from A&M.

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Great2BeAnAGGIE said:

It was their production during the regular season that got us where we were tonight.
You lose that with no one close to them.
So good luck making a regional next year because we will be bottom 3rd in conference next year.

Someone else made this point and it's too good to not share:

In 2023 we had to replace a C, 1st, SS, DH, and OF. What did we do? Got Appel, Burton, Ali, Schott, Montgomery, and freshmen named Gavin Grahovac and Caden Sorrell.

It can be done.
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phatty26 said:

B-1 83 said:

agsalaska said:

The sooner we fire him the faster we can start competing for Championships.

Gosh, maybe we can pick up the coach from UCLA or Georgia Tech. Surely they'll be fired after this weekend….


Seriously GT you must be young they're one of the all time college baseball chokers. Theyve been choking since Nomar, Varitek, Texeira. GT always chokes now like 37 years.

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B-1 83 said:

agsalaska said:

The sooner we fire him the faster we can start competing for Championships.

Gosh, maybe we can pick up the coach from UCLA or Georgia Tech. Surely they'll be fired after this weekend….


UCLA's season is exactly the reason A&M should NEVER consider moving to the B1G. One plays crappy competition all year and then gets beaten by a weak team at crunch time. Unless something crazy happens, the B1G will never win a baseball natty.
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OrangeAlert said:

B-1 83 said:

agsalaska said:

The sooner we fire him the faster we can start competing for Championships.

Gosh, maybe we can pick up the coach from UCLA or Georgia Tech. Surely they'll be fired after this weekend….


UCLA's season is exactly the reason A&M should NEVER consider moving to the B1G. One plays crappy competition all year and then gets beaten by a weak team at crunch time. Unless something crazy happens, the B1G will never win a baseball natty.

There are a whole host of reasons that A&M should not move to the Big Ten, but I don't think UCLA's baseball flameout this year is one of them. In fact, I'd say that UCLA and A&M both experienced the same thing: peaking too soon and not being able to sustain it. The A&M team that beat Texas and LSU was really formidable, but, by the end of the year, we were running on fumes. UCLA, after dominating most of the year, was showing cracks in the foundation at the end of the year.
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OrangeAlert said:

B-1 83 said:

agsalaska said:

The sooner we fire him the faster we can start competing for Championships.

Gosh, maybe we can pick up the coach from UCLA or Georgia Tech. Surely they'll be fired after this weekend….


UCLA's season is exactly the reason A&M should NEVER consider moving to the B1G. One plays crappy competition all year and then gets beaten by a weak team at crunch time. Unless something crazy happens, the B1G will never win a baseball natty.

hmm it seems they also lost just like a 3rd best record in the SEC team did as well with all the tough gauntlet we had to go thru

The one thing that most of the teams need to do is play well at the end of the season and survive a bad outing or two

We were hobbled especially on the bump and pressed when we knew we had to score 10+ runs a game to win with a band aid pitching staff
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W said:

what's the plan to replace the three 1st rounders at the top of the lineup?

We don't have 3 first rounders leaving. Wild
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Craigy said:

W said:

what's the plan to replace the three 1st rounders at the top of the lineup?

We don't have 3 first rounders leaving. Wild


We recreate them in the aggregate
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Craigy said:

W said:

what's the plan to replace the three 1st rounders at the top of the lineup?

We don't have 3 first rounders leaving. Wild

Not anymore.

More specifically we are losing the top 3-4 guys in our lineup. Similar to what happened to pitching last season when we lost our entire weekend starting rotation.

And we all saw how that went for the pitching this season.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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LB12MEEN said:

Craigy said:

W said:

what's the plan to replace the three 1st rounders at the top of the lineup?

We don't have 3 first rounders leaving. Wild

Not anymore.

More specifically we are losing the top 3-4 guys in our lineup. Similar to what happened to pitching last season when we lost our entire weekend starting rotation.

And we all saw how that went for the pitching this season.


That was also whoever we got to replace or we were counting on only Sims and Freshcorn met that standard the others due to injury in some capacity didn't

Someone wrote on a thread that when we had to replace the 2023 lineup at a bunch of positions we did quite well in tha regard.

We will honestly have to do that again this year with someone new at the helm. This is be the make or break year IMO for Earley but I personally don't have an issue with him getting the opportunity to lead this team next year.

But how are we going to fill the holes not only in the field but more importantly in the lineup

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Yes, it was very frustrating how USC outscored us in games 6 and 7 by a combined score of 21-4 to get ousted from our own regional just 15 days after the softball team suffered the exact same fate at home, but 6 other teams Regional hosts got ousted too: No. 1 UCLA, No. 2 Georgia Tech, No. 8 Florida, and No. 9 Southern Miss, No. 10 Florida State, and No. 13 Nebraska.

We exceeded expectations by finishing with a 41-16 overall and 18-11 in SEC play for 3rd in the SEC and hosting a regional a year after finishing 30-26 overall and 11-18 in SEC play for 14th in the SEC and missing the tournament. I think we should give him two more years to reach the Super Regional because firing a coach with that kind of turnaround in his second year will not get a great coach to come here, much less stay for the long haul.
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I am not giving any thought on if he should be replaced this year bc it was stated by someone in the know as long as he made a regional he would be back.

Next year with only one year left on his contract, a move most likely will be made if deemed necessary.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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If Troy can advance this year, and Coastal Carolina in recent years, facilities are not the issue that is keeping us from the CWS. The facilities blame game is an Aggie thing that got started in the late 90's.
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LB12MEEN said:

I am not giving any thought on if he should be replaced this year bc it was stated by someone in the know as long as he made a regional he would be back.

Next year with only one year left on his contract, a move most likely will be made if deemed necessary.


With the amount of talent exiting on offense next year could be a struggle if we don't hit in the portal and we may very well be looking for a new head coach

If I had to make a prediction right now it would be we get eliminated in a road regional next year and then make the move
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Just Tired said:

AgFan1974 said:

Just Tired said:

W said:

what's the plan to replace the three 1st rounders at the top of the lineup?


it shouldn't take much to replace that grand total of 4 runs in the last two season-defining games.

Those dudes got us there and taking a pot-shot at them is insanity.


If the goal is omaha they got us nowhere. better than last year but that's just debating degrees of failure.

Yeah, you are right on it. No one even cares we are losing those slugs. When they go undrafted we should have a really good shot at bringing them back.
 
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