Is Spacex is a giant pump and dump scheme?

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hph6203
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Guy is using the car as his daily driver and has not disengaged the system while doing that either. The coast to coast drive in December is not included in the 9,000 mile streak. Only the Canada coast to coast is. It is way, way better than you want to admit.
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For everyone claiming 'FSD' works as 'FSD', it crashed into a house and killed a woman in Katy this week. Of course, Tesla is blaming the driver for using 'FSD' as 'FSD'.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-person-killed-tesla-autopilot-crashes-texas-home-rcna350982
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JohnClark929 said:

For everyone claiming 'FSD' works as 'FSD', it crashed into a house and killed a woman in Katy this week. Of course, Tesla is blaming the driver for using 'FSD' as 'FSD'.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-person-killed-tesla-autopilot-crashes-texas-home-rcna350982


Don't lie, that's not what Tesla said. Elon's response was that the accident facts (high speed through a residential neighborhood) is inconsistent with FSD use.
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no idea what actually happened, but Tesla is claiming he took it off FSD.
YouBet
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I assume Tesla could actually prove this since they are likely tracking you?
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any car should be able to show whether the driver had their foot on the pedal or not.

People who like Tesla will believe them and people who don't will not. Same old crap.

I'm dubious that FSD decided to take the guy through a neighborhood at 70 and he just couldn't override the car, but certainly good nightmare material.
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JohnClark929 said:

For everyone claiming 'FSD' works as 'FSD', it crashed into a house and killed a woman in Katy this week. Of course, Tesla is blaming the driver for using 'FSD' as 'FSD'.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-person-killed-tesla-autopilot-crashes-texas-home-rcna350982
It did not. FSD allows driver override of speed control. When the speed reaches a threshold the car displays a warning for the driver to take full control of the car and puts on the vehicle's hazard lights. Witnesses stated the vehicle had its hazard lights on. Everything is consistent with a driver that pressed the accelerator, presumably confusing it for the brake, and never adjusting.

No driver in control: No accident
Driver in control: Accident


Ashok Elluswamy is Tesla's lead engineer for FSD.

Z3phyr
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Did the car accelerate right in front of the house or was is going through the neighborhood at 70 mph for multiple blocks?
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Was already traveling at a high rate of speed when it was caught on a ring camera on an intersecting street. Don't personally know how long the driver held the accelerator down, but they never attempted to hit the brake.

Tesla's automatically brake if the accelerator is not depressed. FSD disengages with the lightest press of the brake. The only way that car does what happened is if a human either intentionally or accidentally forced it to do it.
 
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