2024/2025 season youth baseball/softball check-in

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Long toss and bands.
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redline248 said:

Anyone ever bought or used this CleanFuego throwing aid?

https://www.cleanfuego.com/

What other stuff do y'all recommend for practice and drills?
Medicine ball work too to teach the kid to engage and work the core & lower half.
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Does anyone have any experience telling event connect to piss off?

We have used them before for trips like Omaha but now PG is trying to get us to use them for a trip to Houston in a couple of weeks. F that, mostly because they have a two night stay requirement. But we also have families staying with relatives, one staying downtown because it is their anniversary, etc.

What happens if we just ignore it?

Man I really, really, really hate PG. Have I mentioned that before?
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Drove by the PG site in Cedar Park. Still nothing happening there. I highly doubt that it will ever materialize.
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agsalaska said:

Does anyone have any experience telling event connect to piss off?

We have used them before for trips like Omaha but now PG is trying to get us to use them for a trip to Houston in a couple of weeks. F that, mostly because they have a two night stay requirement. But we also have families staying with relatives, one staying downtown because it is their anniversary, etc.

What happens if we just ignore it?

Man I really, really, really hate PG. Have I mentioned that before?

No experience with PG on that but I think they usually charge your team a premium on the registration if you don't stay in one of their stay-to-play partners. So if a tournament registration fee is normally $750 you might have to pay $1250 or $1500. Something like that.

When we did Omaha a couple years ago the stay-to-play vs. stay where you want was maybe $1000 difference or something. And it was a % of your roster- like 75% of the team had to stay at a partner hotel.
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It will not materialize. The group that was leading that charge fell apart due to some 'alleged' nefarious actions of one of its members.
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hustle2015 said:

It will not materialize. The group that was leading that charge fell apart due to some 'alleged' nefarious actions of one of its members.
Lol. I am not surprised by that. That land will turn into something else besides baseball fields. It is just too valuable to be putting ball fields on there.
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docb said:

hustle2015 said:

It will not materialize. The group that was leading that charge fell apart due to some 'alleged' nefarious actions of one of its members.
Lol. I am not surprised by that. That land will turn into something else besides baseball fields. It is just too valuable to be putting ball fields on there.

I wonder if PG wishes they went with the Houston pitch and partners who can actually perform their obligations.
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Screen cap of the master plan pitched for the Houston site.

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We went to Houston this weekend and played a PG event there for the first time. Every other year we have gone to Scrapyards and played USSSA. But thats a AA tournament now for our age group so we went PG.

PG in Houston is completely different than Ausitn. I mean nothing close to the same. The umpires, the facilities, the other coaches, just the entire experience was top notch. Unfortunately we didnt play very well. We went 1-1 on Saturday and had the 8am game Sunday and lost in extra innings. But that happens when you get to your hotel at 10:30 and play at 8, especially against a team that had morning games. But that is not PGs fault.

Totally different experience than I am used to with PG in Austin. NIght and day. I still do not like the idea of havign to play four in a day, especially above maybe 11u. They should divide the tournaments into two 8 team tournaments instead of leaving them all together. But otherwise it was a lot of fun.
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Quick sanity check question for the coaches here:

What would your reaction be to a parent or two on your team that send novel-length complaint texts after a rough weekend of losses?
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Are they reasonable and fair issues or just someone *****ing / wanting their baby to get more of X?
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AgEng06 said:

Quick sanity check question for the coaches here:

What would your reaction be to a parent or two on your team that send novel-length complaint texts after a rough weekend of losses?
Really depends on the tone and what their complaints are.
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Sorry, I should have been a little more specific. For starters, this is 9U. And we're just a few dads that put together a team of kids we know/like because we couldn't stay together in rec league any longer. We've had a rough start to this season after being fairly successful last season, but we had 3 kids drop/add for the spring so even though the core is there, it's not the exact same team.

After a nice losing weekend, the head coach and I got lots of "feedback" from 2 families that have been with us since last year on things they think we aren't doing right and a lot of overall baseless complaining. And I don't say "baseless" to diminish it and say we as coaches are perfect, I say that because it's a lot of "we need to be harder on them", "my kid is doing great, that other kid shouldn't even be on this team", "our coaches aren't yelling at the players the way other coaches do", etc. Keep in mind these are the same parents that are yelling at their kids, over us coaches, from the stands...

I really believe it stems from wanting us to be run like these paid organizations out there, or wanting to win so they can brag about it on Facebook, or putting wayyy too much of their personal worth on how their 9U team performs. But sometimes it gets a little exhausting to deal with.

Mostly I'm just venting a little bit here, I guess. Thanks for listening. I feel better already... haha
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Tell them that their kid will never make a living playing baseball and the best they can hope for is a marginal Division 2 program partial scholarship that likely will not help him later in life. I'm actually kidding (sorta). Honestly there is nothing you can do as a coach that will make everyone happy in select baseball. My best advice is to do the best you can and grow thick skin to deal with those parents. They can move on if they don't like it, especially if you are just volunteering your time.
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Had to make a decision this week that I've never been forced into ever.

My younger son joined a new 11AAA team in the fall for a guy who has been around the Houston travel ball scene for 20 years. He's always been known as an a-hole but knows baseball through and through. However, this would be his first time coaching kids this age in quite a while.

Anyway, he's definitely been hard on the boys but very often made really cutting remarks. At first they just seemed sort of sarcastic but over the last half of the fall and this spring have gotten meaner and meaner. I mean just crapping all over the kids and zero positivity ever.

For example, they played this past weekend and went 1-1 on Saturday. Lost the first game and he just crapped all over them after the game. Then they came back, played pretty well, and won their second game and the coach didn't have one congratulatory word. Didn't even have them huddle up after the win to say "good game boys, I'm proud of how y'all bounced back." My son went 4-5 with 2 doubles and 4 RBIs in their 3 games and he got no kudos for it whatsoever.

His instruction has been really high level but zero demonstration. It definitely would fit a HS level kid who's played for a while but he'd just repeat the same things to kids ad nauseum and then say "you'll either figure it out or you'll quit." He even put my son at 2nd base where he's never played and then very publicly jumped his ass for not knowing where to line up or specific responsibilities.

You can see the sheer terror in the kids eyes at the thought of messing up and getting crapped on in front of everybody. And their play reflects that.

We'd been on the fence in the fall about coming back but decided to see if things improved this spring. Well this weekend he flat-out called several kids morons which was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Told him we're leaving the team today and some families we're still friends with (who are also thinking about leaving) and he goes on the group chat and talks crap about how some kids aren't tough enough and think he's too negative. Just helped reinforce our decision.

Fortunately, we've had some teams already reach out and headed out for a tryout with a better team in about 15 minutes.
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I would be very short with some kind of 'thanks for the feedback. Doing what we think is right and doing th best we can' kind of response. One, two sentences tops. Be polite but if you are confident in what you are doing than don't worry about it. Trust your process.


I've coached and managed everything from tball to 13u majors. I stopped caring about what the parents think a long time ago. In 11u we lost our first seven AAA games. The exact same kids got promoted to majors halfway through 12u(to be clear I run the team and am an assistant now I am NOT the head coach. I couldn't do his job and he couldn't do mine).
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Glad y'all had a good experience in Houston. Which fields were y'all at?
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Waller both days which kind of sucked because we wanted to see two different facilities. But Waller was fun Fields were cool and I could sit at the beer barn and watch NCAA basketball til the cows come home.
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Yeah, that's a pretty good facility but damn it's on the other end of the earth for us.
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lil99chris said:

Got two questions…

Should a kid be pulled for hitting batters? We are playing on Sunday and the opposing pitcher hit 5 of our batters. I'm not talking about a "wear it" kind of hit by pitch. These pitches had quite a bit of speed on them and left two kids with nasty bruises.

My son (13u) is on the short end. He leads off for our team and fully understands the strike zone. Over the past two weekends he has been getting multiple strike calls from the brim of his helmet to well below his knees. It's frustrating to get a strike called and often fall behind in the count. He then has to deal with chasing a bad pitch to stay alive. If these were called strikes on 5' 7" players, there would be an uproar from everyone. Any ideas?

Unless the opposing pitcher hitting your players can reasonably be thought to be doing it on purpose that decision lays with their coaches. If they think they can give up 5+ free passes and still win that's on them. Sounds like the kid might have an arm but isn't much for control and they're trying to teach him how to pitch.

In my oldest son's HS game this past Friday the starter plunked 3 kids in one inning and was left in for another inning before bringing in another arm.

As for your son, umpiring won't be great and it might not be fair but if he's getting a lot of called strikes called on pitches outside the zone then he might actually need to be less patient early in the AB. See something close and attack it. And, if he's getting rung up on these bad calls then he needs to try to foul those pitches off and make the pitcher throw more pitches.

I understand it can be really demoralizing for a kid but you and the coaches have to really work hard to help him understand it's not about him and it's not about the results but it's about his approach and attitude. Did he go up with a plan? Did he attack pitches in the zone? Did he make the pitcher work? If he can say yes to those then it's a good AB.

I loved seeing a clip of an interview with Barry Bonds (I think it was in the Greg Maddux documentary you can find on YouTube) and Barry is talking about even if he lined out to 2nd base he considered an AB a "win" because the pitcher didn't make strike him out, he just barely missed his pitch.
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Quote:

Unless the opposing pitcher hitting your players can reasonably be thought to be doing it on purpose that decision lays with their coaches. If they think they can give up 5+ free passes and still win that's on them. Sounds like the kid might have an arm but isn't much for control and they're trying to teach him how to pitch.


He definitely has an arm and unbelievable size for his age. Those 5 HBPs and 2 walks led to a 3-0 victory for us. They beat us the previous day and probably thought we were going to roll out the red carpet for them. Umps said it was the best

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As for your son, umpiring won't be great and it might not be fair but if he's getting a lot of called strikes called on pitches outside the zone then he might actually need to be less patient early in the AB. See something close and attack it. And, if he's getting rung up on these bad calls then he needs to try to foul those pitches off and make the pitcher throw more pitches


We've told him if he sees his pitch, go right after it. If he strikes out, it is usually to some pitch around his chin that he has no business going after. We tell him that.
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lil99chris said:

Quote:

Unless the opposing pitcher hitting your players can reasonably be thought to be doing it on purpose that decision lays with their coaches. If they think they can give up 5+ free passes and still win that's on them. Sounds like the kid might have an arm but isn't much for control and they're trying to teach him how to pitch.


He definitely has an arm and unbelievable size for his age. Those 5 HBPs and 2 walks led to a 3-0 victory for us. They beat us the previous day and probably thought we were going to roll out the red carpet for them. Umps said it was the best

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As for your son, umpiring won't be great and it might not be fair but if he's getting a lot of called strikes called on pitches outside the zone then he might actually need to be less patient early in the AB. See something close and attack it. And, if he's getting rung up on these bad calls then he needs to try to foul those pitches off and make the pitcher throw more pitches


We've told him if he sees his pitch, go right after it. If he strikes out, it is usually to some pitch around his chin that he has no business going after. We tell him that.


Just be in attack mode and know you're might have to hit a bad pitch. Be a tough out and stay positive because I know it sucks.
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Anyone playing in the Five Tool Rodeo Roundup in Austin this weekend? It was initially supposed to be NE Metro (which is still in the link address) but now is showing either Montopolis or SE Metro. Waiting on the schedule to see where it's actually going down...

https://play.fivetoolyouth.org/events/five-tool-nem-rodeo-roundup-north-east-metro-park-austin-tx-03-29-2025/venues
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Yes, they are showing NE Metro now as well though. Five Tool has done that a couple times, showed NE Metro then added at last minute Burnet, etc. I think that was the same tournament a few weeks ago they had teams play in Burnet or NE Metro on Saturday then Montopolis on Sunday. Original schedule so might have changed.

Its been a rather smart play to entice the north teams to play Five Tool due to location. The PG fields are south other than Westinghouse for 14U. They've sprinkled in Taylor as well, but to market playing north rather than a good chance being at Henley, brings in teams but NE Metro can't handle it all.
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We've been playing FiveTool this spring and what they are doing is a 100% bait and switch. You can't call a tournament the "Taylor Showdown", get all kinds of entries and then 2 weeks before the tournament switch the title to "Taylor/Burnet Showdown." I understand that they are dealing with much larger amount of entries than they ever have or possibly even expected. That being the case, they are scrambling for fields. Good for them for the growth. However, Drew has burned a bridge with me in the last couple of weeks and its unfortunate because I really felt they were making in-roads to improving things. The communication has fallen off, the field locations are not clear and the quality of playing surfaces are trash. I'll agree to play on crap field if it is in Taylor, 5 minutes from my house. Don't tell me I'm playing in Taylor and then send me to a crappier field in Burnet 1hr 15 mins from my house. I'd rather just know I'm going to Henly.
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hustle2015 said:

We've been playing FiveTool this spring and what they are doing is a 100% bait and switch. You can't call a tournament the "Taylor Showdown", get all kinds of entries and then 2 weeks before the tournament switch the title to "Taylor/Burnet Showdown." I understand that they are dealing with much larger amount of entries than they ever have or possibly even expected. That being the case, they are scrambling for fields. Good for them for the growth. However, Drew has burned a bridge with me in the last couple of weeks and its unfortunate because I really felt they were making in-roads to improving things. The communication has fallen off, the field locations are not clear and the quality of playing surfaces are trash. I'll agree to play on crap field if it is in Taylor, 5 minutes from my house. Don't tell me I'm playing in Taylor and then send me to a crappier field in Burnet 1hr 15 mins from my house. I'd rather just know I'm going to Henly.
FWIW this has been going on for years. It was mostly USSSA back then and I think PG near the end but essentially the same venues. Same complaints now as then and it will just be the same for the next group of youth players/coaches.
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Yep. Same story for this weekend. We signed up when it was at NE Metro and now we're playing at Montopolis. It's not as big of change as Taylor to Burnet, but still sucks.
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I understand the dynamics of what they are dealing with and can sympathize with it to a point. Marketing a tournament with one name and location and then flat out changing that after everyone is signed up, that is pure dishonesty. PG has a litany of issues but at least you know it is 'Austin and Surrounding areas' until the week of. You can't call a tournament NEM Spring Fling and then send people to Burnet. That's dishonest and bait and switch business practices.
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hustle2015 said:

I understand the dynamics of what they are dealing with and can sympathize with it to a point. Marketing a tournament with one name and location and then flat out changing that after everyone is signed up, that is pure dishonesty. PG has a litany of issues but at least you know it is 'Austin and Surrounding areas' until the week of. You can't call a tournament NEM Spring Fling and then send people to Burnet. That's dishonest and bait and switch business practices.
Only thing I can tell you is they don't care. They really don't.
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AgEng06 said:

Yep. Same story for this weekend. We signed up when it was at NE Metro and now we're playing at Montopolis. It's not as big of change as Taylor to Burnet, but still sucks.
Good news is you probably won't have to worry about it with the rain.
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hustle2015 said:

I understand the dynamics of what they are dealing with and can sympathize with it to a point. Marketing a tournament with one name and location and then flat out changing that after everyone is signed up, that is pure dishonesty. PG has a litany of issues but at least you know it is 'Austin and Surrounding areas' until the week of. You can't call a tournament NEM Spring Fling and then send people to Burnet. That's dishonest and bait and switch business practices.
Like I said earlier it was a great strategy, all they have to do is not screw it up though. So many people hate PG, don't want to go south, pay the increased prices, etc, they are making inroads. But its really at the end of the day an Austin problem. Just not enough good fields here. PG, Five Tool, NCS...doesn't matter.
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That's pretty much SOP in Houston with PG.

Sign up for a tournament at Doss Park in north-central Houston and you could end up playing an hour+ away in Waller or Montgomery. Or you could sign up for tournaments at Baseball USA or Premier and end up in Waller or Sealy. Hell, when my oldest was in 12U we signed up for a Beaumont tournament and ended up playing in Lake Charles for an NIT.

Ultimately it's too many teams and not enough fields. Especially at AA. Major games usually get put at or really close to the park where it's advertised, AAA is next, and AA gets shuffled off to BFE parks.
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Yeah, that's all I've known in Houston. I don't even bother looking at the site until the schedule comes out on Wednesdays. Just assume it's at least a 45min-1hr drive for every tournament. Although, last week we got spoiled. We're out of Sugar Land and played at Diamonds. It was glorious.
 
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