Cignetti never was at IU with DeBoer.. Cignetti never coached at IU until the HC job.

Also just FWIW…
Texas A&M hired Elko 3 days before Indiana hired Cignetti.

What a coaching hire week

This would be like me being mad because Tom Brady got to win all those super bowls. They put in the work and won the games. We didn't.

I'd be lying if I said it didn't pi** me off a little. Been waiting almost 40 fn' years for something like that for A&M and one of the most perenially sucky teams in college football just comes out of nowhere in a few years.

Indiana over the last 40 years 198-312-12

A&M over the last 40 years 293-165-5

Everyone in the nation except for Miami?

AggieRob93 said:

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Wabs said:

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I've always been told we were the big sleeping giant. Turns out….

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...we are still asleep.

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Coma

None whatsoever.

I do believe Cignetti is the best HC in college and put together an amazing staff. He gets 110% credit and also seeks like an amazing person who I would have loved to play under.

I also think Elko will prove himself as one of the best, too.

I value a program builder vs a coach looking to buy a Natty. So I am very happy with our football program and it's trajectory under Elko.

Indiana football isnt going anywhere anytime soon. They wont repeat as losing far too many upperclassmen. But Cignetti gets far more performance out of his players than anyone else by a long stretch.

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I'd be lying if I said it didn't pi** me off a little. Been waiting almost 40 fn' years for something like that for A&M and one of the most perenially sucky teams in college football just comes out of nowhere in a few years.

Indiana over the last 40 years 198-312-12

A&M over the last 40 years 293-165-5

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Is that right? How have they played almost 60 more games than us?

Nope.

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92Ag95 said:

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I'd be lying if I said it didn't pi** me off a little. Been waiting almost 40 fn' years for something like that for A&M and one of the most perenially sucky teams in college football just comes out of nowhere in a few years.

Indiana over the last 40 years 198-312-12

A&M over the last 40 years 293-165-5

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Is that right? How have they played almost 60 more games than us?

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May have to add it up myself...Asked Grok for combined records over last 40 years. just asked again to confirm and was told 306-197-5 for A&M and 198-248-6 for Indiana. I'm finding that for as handy as AI can be a lot of times it pulls old or erroneous data and doesn't seem to verify that it's up to date. I'm going to add up manually from https://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/byname.htm and report back to this post....


A&M 333-169-2 (1985-2025)

IU 207-273-3 (1985-2025)

added up manually from above site (prob still wrong but point is still the same)
maybe you could say their fans deserve it more than we do after having endured much more suckage.
Still hard to see them get what we've been wanting.

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I've always been told we were the big sleeping giant. Turns out….

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We are not a sleeping giant. A lazy giant maybe but not sleeping one.

Seeing a final four without one of ND, GA, Bama or OSU for the first time since I don't know…is a fresh relief.

Everybody but Miami is jealous of Indiana this year.

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

Honestly, appreciate what both remaining CFP teams have done in such a short period of time. But that doesn't mean I will have as much enthusiasm and anticipation for the game as I have had in previous years. I LOVE college football, and I've been a fan since the early 70s, but neither team inspires me to root for one over the other. I hope it's a good game. Afterwards, I won't care much about who wins. Meh.

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Guys, wait till next year!

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Been wait'in since 1971.
How many years is that now?

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That's the joke.

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I love the fact Big 10 fans are hanging their success on it and talking smack about the SEC. Besided IU which one of their teams was good?

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If Ohio State wasn't good, then NO ONE in the SEC was good.

The SEC rode the coat tails of Alabama for years. Complaining about another conference is ridiculous. The SEC has been the best conference, but nowhere near as good as we are in our heads. The SEC has absolutely been the most arrogant conference.

Envious maybe. Jealous no

Jealous is a word I wouldn't use. Sounds like a psycho woman or a petty kid.

Indiana is doing what I've waited my whole life for A&M to do. I don't resent them for it, but I sure do wish we'd get there.

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Wabs said:

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...we are still asleep.

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I said MANY times here that I have watched A&M football over 70 years. Gents, THIS IS JUST THE WAY IT IS!!!!!

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I did grad school at IU. Football games were a joke. They lived and breathed basketball (and thrown chairs). That I should live to see the day when Indiana is a football power and we are becoming a basketball school...

IU started having success when Pennix was QB and Cignetti was working there along with DeBoer. They took a step back when Pennix transferred, but getting Cignetti back was absolutely the game-changer.

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What? That never happened with Cig and DeBoer. Lol. Is this like this start of Buckley made The Hit thread?

Nope. Very happy for them.

And some of you are really pathetic.

I have a BS in Engineering from TAMU.

Not jealous whatsoever!

Gig'em

I'm rooting for Cignetti

If they win, he is an all time coaching story deserving of a Movie.

Jealous? #$@!% yes i am. Been waiting 48 years for this moment and these fans are just learning the difference between the pick and roll and a screen pass!

Dumbledork said:

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

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Just for you Colt. You probably blocked this out of your memory though.

Dumbledork said:

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AggieEP said:

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Aston04 said:

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

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You gonna get your boyfriend to beat us up?

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I admit I think I am. It seems like they just walked in and took over. A&M should've been the one playing for national championship.

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NOPE!!

Still mind boggling a program like IU can do it, with alumni Mark Cuban's $$$, and we don't seem to be able to make it happen. Fingers crossed for Elko and NIL, which seems on track.

No turnaround in the history of college football has been as remarkable as what Curt Cignetti has accomplished at Indiana. In the space of just two seasons in Bloomington, the 64-year-old Cignetti has taken the team with more losses than any other to the brink of a national championship.

But the most astonishing thing isn't that Cignetti has turned the Hoosiers into a powerhouse. It's that this isn't the first miracle of his coaching career. It isn't even his first miracle involving a school named Indiana.

Long before Cignetti was laying waste to college football's blue blood programs, his head coaching journey began in 2011 when he was hired by a once-proud Division II program called Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

In the beginning, Cignetti's aim was straightforward: He wanted to import a little Tuscaloosa, Ala., to Indiana, Pa. He placed a framed picture of standout receiver Julio Jones in his office and kept a copy of Alabama's offensive playbook on hand to show off to recruits.

His obsessiveness quickly filtered through every part of the program. Cignetti required his staff to tuck in their shirts before running players through their first drills of the day. And he turned one of Alabama's favorite pass patterns into the cornerstone of his offensive attack at IUP. The play, a lethal slant that the Crimson Tide called "Shortie," had once enabled Jones to become the most devastating wideout in the country. Now it was helping the Crimson Hawks hang 40 points on their opponents.

In Division II, he was fishing in a different pond. The scholarship fund was smaller, meaning Cignetti had to make tough decisions on how much money to allocate to each player at each position at the expense of other spots on the roster.

"Some guys are worth a thousand bucks," Haines said. "Some guys are worth a full scholarship. Some guys are walk-onsand everything in between."

As it turned out, the make-ends-meet budgeting of Division II was the perfect training for something that didn't even exist yet: college football's new era of pay-for-play. Now, 12 years on, Cignetti is armed with a very different kind of budget at a very different Indiana. Using the millions of dollars at the Hoosiers' disposal, Cignetti has applied what he learned at IUP to build a team of world-beaters without a single five-star recruit.

"Every move that I made after I left Alabama prepared me for this moment," Cignetti said, "and also prepared me for the changes that have taken place in college football."

Curt Cignetti Has Worked a Miracle at Indiana. He Also Worked a Miracle at a Different Indiana. - WSJ

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Dumbledork said:

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AggieEP said:

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Aston04 said:

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

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You gonna get your boyfriend to beat us up?

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I might consider letting my girlfriend do it, just so you'd have a chance.

It's telling that you had to go with an internet warrior dodge to avoid the obvious truth that Colt would destroy you.

AggieEP said:

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Dumbledork said:

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AggieEP said:

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Aston04 said:

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

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Just for you Colt. You probably blocked this out of your memory though.

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Another internet tough guy who'd piss his pants if Colt confronted you.

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Agryan00 said:

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I love the fact Big 10 fans are hanging their success on it and talking smack about the SEC. Besided IU which one of their teams was good?

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If Ohio State wasn't good, then NO ONE in the SEC was good.

The SEC rode the coat tails of Alabama for years. Complaining about another conference is ridiculous. The SEC has been the best conference, but nowhere near as good as we are in our heads. The SEC has absolutely been the most arrogant conference.

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The SEC was great, but where they really shined was marketing. When it was just 2 teams, it was impossible for the SEC lose the NCG when both teams were from the SEC, and being guaranteed one of the 2 slots every year really helped.

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Nuts. They have 1 whole good year. And it's like Indiana is the Alabama dynasty. It's just dumb.

Recall: Kansas years ago. A broken clock is right twice a day.

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Then the Aggie clock must have been thrown on the freeway and ran over multiple times.

Dumbledork said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Dumbledork said:

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AggieEP said:

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Aston04 said:

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

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You gonna get your boyfriend to beat us up?

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I might consider letting my girlfriend do it, just so you'd have a chance.

It's telling that you had to go with an internet warrior dodge to avoid the obvious truth that Colt would destroy you.

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Dumbledork said:

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AggieEP said:

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Dumbledork said:

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AggieEP said:

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Aston04 said:

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Their fans do not deserve the success they are enjoying.

My mom/dad live in Indiana. Visited this Christmas, fairly laughable all the IU flags popping up everywhere out of nowhere. Brother in law, who attended IU, is also puffing the chest about them, when I'm pretty sure he didn't attend games when he attended there.

So from that sense, call it jealousy, annoyed... whatever.. I'm rooting for Miami in the final.

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This isn't accurate. I live in Bloomington, the IU flags that are up now have been up all year around town. They have a lot to learn about creating a big time college football atmosphere on gameday, but in terms of the people, they love their university just like we do.

I wear my Aggie gear pretty regularly, and haven't had anyone make a jackass comment about how we washed out early, or about how Indiana is better than A&M. 3 years living in Austin was an unsufferable experience (Cart McCry era) of having t-shirt sips not just root for Texas, but actively hassle Aggies. Most of the people I talk to have been very humble about the sudden emergence of Indiana football.

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I've always found people saying stupid **** like "Cart McCry" annoying, I'd be willing he could beat you into the ground without breaking a sweat.

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Just for you Colt. You probably blocked this out of your memory though.

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Another internet tough guy who'd piss his pants if Colt confronted you.

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Okay cart