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Some may be too far gone that not even a NC could cure their severe BAS.

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Yes. I think so too. BAS is an identity now for some of the Aggies I know. I do wonder if a few them will be able to handle the contradiction created if the Aggies do win it all. But I guess if Cubs and Red Sox fans can, maybe Battered Aggies can too?

I hope we get to find out!

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People with BAS are the type of people who would purposely let you down when you need them the most because they are too chicken **** to step up when the going gets tough.

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As someone who suffers from BAS, I disagree with this. The reason I think BAS effects some of us so much is that we are the kind of people who want to get in the fight when things get tough and this is the part of our life where we care deeply and have absolutely no ability to do anything about it.

Especially if we aren't at Kyle. My BAS is always much worse watching on TV than it is in person because I can try to help when I am in person and am completely helpless when watching at home.

Good news is that I will be at Kyle Saturday ready to fight.

Give it a rest bud. Do you really need everyone to share your opinion, just to enjoy Aggie football?

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He's in the playoff and you're in a meaningless bowl against a shell of a Michigan team. When you win, I'm sure we'll hear that Tessus is back! So it's all relative, isn't it?

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Who is playing Michigan?

Became an Aggie fan listening to the 1955 Aggies v Rice. The only Aggie in a family of sip apologist. Class of '70 and witness to 8 decades of Aggie Football. Never suffered with BAS and my hatred for all things whorn related has even mellowed beginning with joining the SEC. Given the current state of college football I believe Coach Elko is the leader to take us to where we belong, a perennial power. It may not happen this year but I am enjoying the journey. Just wish my good friend Class of '61 could be here to enjoy it with me.

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2-0 vs lsu with 2 blowout wins, Sumlin never beat lsu and Jimbo was 50/50. Elko is the best coach we have ever had. Make him the highest paid coach with a 10 year fully guaranteed contract.

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I mean, LSU isn't exactly good, these days. Jimbo faced maybe the best LSUI team ever. He also finsished in the top 4. Elko is probably not in the playoff with any of Jimbo's schedules. 10 year contract is stupid, and partly why we have been a joke.

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I'm assuming you didn't do any research for this post?

Here is A&M's SOR and SOS by year (per espn)

2018: 12/24
2019: 21/25
2020: 3/12
2021: 29/52
2022: 68/25
2023: 39/20
2024: 24/13
2025: 5/18

This years SOR/SOS were both better than 4 of Jimbo's years and slightly worse than his most difficult year.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi/_/view/resume

Gaius Rufus said:

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CowDog said:

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Some may be too far gone that not even a NC could cure their severe BAS.

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Yes. I think so too. BAS is an identity now for some of the Aggies I know. I do wonder if a few them will be able to handle the contradiction created if the Aggies do win it all. But I guess if Cubs and Red Sox fans can, maybe Battered Aggies can too?

I hope we get to find out!

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It's a learned pattern of behavior based on the experiences over the past 30 years. If a family member doesn't show up for every single family event you've had over 30 years, your best bet is to plan on them not being there to avoid the emotional letdown. If said family member starts showing up on time routinely, you can then adjust your expectations. You don't adjust expectations because the family member showed up once or twice. In fact that enhances the pain when they no-show next time. That's why 2012 and 2020 have ramped the BAS up so high. It's going to take few years of consistency for BAS to go away.

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No, not really. You are an adult. You regulate your own emotions. You can choose to be excited or not. You can choose to be pessimistic. It isn't a "learned behavior", it's a choice.

Let's be completely honest here…being excited for a college football team isn't some deep-seated psychological issue. You decide how much it affects you.

If you choose to be a sad-sack, pessimistic, and crap all over message boards crying about your "fears", that's all on you. Not some learned behavior. You are choosing to act that way.

Want to know how to fix it?

Don't act that way.

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Everything you're saying is exactly how you go about changing a learned behavior.

1. Identify you have a problem
2. Recognize that you have control over that problem.
3. Choose to retain said problem or fix it.

Choosing to fix it is the new behavior replacing the previously learned one. No one actively chooses to develop the problem in the first place. The problem itself is the learned behavior.

Unless you're one of those people that think irrational people actually wanted to develop their irrationality in the beginning. "Ever since I was kid I always wanted to let collegiate athletics have an overwhelming affect on my happiness" lol

I'm not saying that he hasn't done well. Just that the LSU argument really doesn't hold water. And if we played Alabama, GA, or heck, even Vandy, instead of the bottom of the sec, we might be on the outside looking in.. But you play the schedule you have and we were successful this year. But a 10 year contract? After the last time? No way.

Here is the issue with your analysis.

Aggie football has no material impact on your life. This isn't comparable to abuse or some family issue. It's literally other people playing a game that you choose to spectate.

The outcomes of their actions have zero impact on you.

Zero.

So, coming to a message board, creating an account, coming up with a screen name, then bleeding all over the internet is a choice. Not a forced action.

Again, I get that it's a lot easier for some adults to demand that "others" take responsibility for their emotions. But you are responsible for how you feel and how you choose to react.

The fact that grown men are blaming 18-22 year olds for their emotional state is mind blowing to me.

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I'm not saying that he hasn't done well. Just that the LSU argument really doesn't hold water. And if we played Alabama, GA, or heck, even Vandy, instead of the bottom of the sec, we might be on the outside looking in.. But you play the schedule you have and we were successful this year. But a 10 year contract? After the last time? No way.

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Again, your opinions don't hold up to the facts. You might want this years schedule to have been easy. You might want Jimbo to have played harder schedules.

But neither are true. Your premise is flawed.

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Here is the issue with your analysis.

Aggie football has no material impact on your life. This isn't comparable to abuse or some family issue. It's literally other people playing a game that you choose to spectate.

The outcomes of their actions have zero impact on you.

Zero.

So, coming to a message board, creating an account, coming up with a screen name, then bleeding all over the internet is a choice. Not a forced action.

Again, I get that it's a lot easier for some adults to demand that "others" take responsibility for their emotions. But you are responsible for how you feel and how you choose to react.

The fact that grown men are blaming 18-22 year olds for their emotional state is mind blowing to me.

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Congrats! You are a well adjusted individual. Some people aren't. I said earlier that they shouldn't be this attached, but it doesn't change the fact that they are. And these people have zero impact on your life. Zero. But you seem to be letting it occupy an undue amount of space in your brain. Maybe you can recognize that you have this issue and choose to not let it bother you.

That is artful gaslighting.

The truth is, it bothers a lot of people. It bothers outr Coach. It bothers our quarterback. There's a story about it in the New York Times and on ESPN. We as a fanbase are being identified by some weird thin-blooded minority of pathetic fans that insists on shouting from the rooftops how little they believe in our team.
And you suggest we just go ahead and accept it and thereby share in the illusion they are creating that we are all terrible fans. I prefer to call it out every time I see it.

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Gaius Rufus said:

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Here is the issue with your analysis.

Aggie football has no material impact on your life. This isn't comparable to abuse or some family issue. It's literally other people playing a game that you choose to spectate.

The outcomes of their actions have zero impact on you.

Zero.

So, coming to a message board, creating an account, coming up with a screen name, then bleeding all over the internet is a choice. Not a forced action.

Again, I get that it's a lot easier for some adults to demand that "others" take responsibility for their emotions. But you are responsible for how you feel and how you choose to react.

The fact that grown men are blaming 18-22 year olds for their emotional state is mind blowing to me.

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Congrats! You are a well adjusted individual. Some people aren't. I said earlier that they shouldn't be this attached, but it doesn't change the fact that they are. And these people have zero impact on your life. Zero. But you seem to be letting it occupy an undue amount of space in your brain. Maybe you can recognize that you have this issue and choose to not let it bother you.

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I wondered how long it would take for somebody to post an ad hominem. I also love the false dichotomy and mind-reading.

You are apparently so bothered by my words that you have resorted to the classic, "deflect-deflect-counter accuse".

Regardless, thank you for agreeing with me that Aggie football games don't have any real impact on people and the folks on here who get irrationally angry are not emotionally well-adjusted people (that doesn't take away from them choosing not to be reasonable).

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That is artful gaslighting.

The truth is, it bothers a lot of people. It bothers outr Coach. It bothers our quarterback. There's a story about it in the New York Times and on ESPN. We as a fanbase are being identified by some weird thin-blooded minority of pathetic fans that insists on shouting from the rooftops how little they believe in our team.
And you suggest we just go ahead and accept it and thereby share in the illusion they are creating that we are all terrible fans. I prefer to call it out every time I see it.

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So you want to complain about something that bothers you, as is your right. They complain about something that bothers them. It's not gaslighting or false equivalency. You're participating in the same behavior while having a holier than thou attitude because you know you're right and they're wrong.

And to be fair, I never said to accept it. I simply said it's going to take several consistent years for it to go away. Like how we'll never be given the benefit of the doubt by the media or CFP committee until we actually do something of merit. This year has been a very good start.

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agree 100%

also feel like next year, going 9-3 is realistic but optimistic.
we've got a lot of talented players thru the depth chart, but we'll be lacking in experience in several positions that will matter.

that's not BAS, that's just reality.
but that said....the future of the program, on the whole, seems to be trending the right way

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This right here is what the writer is talking about.

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Yep, I expect to be in the CFP next year. Look at Howell, Concepcion, and Craver. 3 grand slams. I expect more.

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Hope you're right. I'd love to be wrong.

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And you suggest we just go ahead and accept it and thereby share in the illusion they are creating that we are all terrible fans.

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Supporting the team, even while having BAS and not believing in them, probably makes us exceptional fans.

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Here is the issue with your analysis.

Aggie football has no material impact on your life. This isn't comparable to abuse or some family issue. It's literally other people playing a game that you choose to spectate.

The outcomes of their actions have zero impact on you.

Zero.

So, coming to a message board, creating an account, coming up with a screen name, then bleeding all over the internet is a choice. Not a forced action.

Again, I get that it's a lot easier for some adults to demand that "others" take responsibility for their emotions. But you are responsible for how you feel and how you choose to react.

The fact that grown men are blaming 18-22 year olds for their emotional state is mind blowing to me.

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Congrats! You are a well adjusted individual. Some people aren't. I said earlier that they shouldn't be this attached, but it doesn't change the fact that they are. And these people have zero impact on your life. Zero. But you seem to be letting it occupy an undue amount of space in your brain. Maybe you can recognize that you have this issue and choose to not let it bother you.

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I wondered how long it would take for somebody to post an ad hominem. I also love the false dichotomy and mind-reading.

You are apparently so bothered by my words that you have resorted to the classic, "deflect-deflect-counter accuse".

Regardless, thank you for agreeing with me that Aggie football games don't have any real impact on people and the folks on here who get irrationally angry are not emotionally well-adjusted people (that doesn't take away from them choosing not to be reasonable).

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You felt it was very important to correct my first post, and did so with vigor. Who was really bothered by someone's words?

And your welcome. I never took a stance contrary to that. Just pointing out how human nature works.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47324381/texas-mike-elko-college-football-playoff

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The history lesson in the first half of that piece was painful as hell. The following summary on Elko would give Bob Costas a boner if this was ND or Michigan instead of A&M.

I'm protecting myself - tapping the breaks and taking a wait-n-see approach to Saturday...Feels eerily like we've been here before...

Owens fell down 5 times against tu. Go watch the film. These are FACTS.

I like Owens but we cannot waste 5 carries against a quality opponent. He has been doing this all year. And no he did not slip. He is running with his head way over his feet. Again, go watch the film to see it.

Really was a good Article!

Actually got me fired up and wish I could be there!

Not to derail but before reading the article, I had never heard of Jesse Woods. Checking out his music, really good and his new band appears to be taking off.

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Gaius Rufus said:

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Here is the issue with your analysis.

Aggie football has no material impact on your life. This isn't comparable to abuse or some family issue. It's literally other people playing a game that you choose to spectate.

The outcomes of their actions have zero impact on you.

Zero.

So, coming to a message board, creating an account, coming up with a screen name, then bleeding all over the internet is a choice. Not a forced action.

Again, I get that it's a lot easier for some adults to demand that "others" take responsibility for their emotions. But you are responsible for how you feel and how you choose to react.

The fact that grown men are blaming 18-22 year olds for their emotional state is mind blowing to me.

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Congrats! You are a well adjusted individual. Some people aren't. I said earlier that they shouldn't be this attached, but it doesn't change the fact that they are. And these people have zero impact on your life. Zero. But you seem to be letting it occupy an undue amount of space in your brain. Maybe you can recognize that you have this issue and choose to not let it bother you.

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I wondered how long it would take for somebody to post an ad hominem. I also love the false dichotomy and mind-reading.

You are apparently so bothered by my words that you have resorted to the classic, "deflect-deflect-counter accuse".

Regardless, thank you for agreeing with me that Aggie football games don't have any real impact on people and the folks on here who get irrationally angry are not emotionally well-adjusted people (that doesn't take away from them choosing not to be reasonable).

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You felt it was very important to correct my first post, and did so with vigor. Who was really bothered by someone's words?

And your welcome. I never took a stance contrary to that. Just pointing out how human nature works.

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Complaining about people posting on message boards while actively posting on the same message board. Sounds about right.

But here, let me really get your panties in a twist…

It's "you're", not "your".

Now you have something real to be bothered about, not just somebody else saying something that hits too close to home for you.

Anytime you get a new head coach, it's time to hit the reset button on expectations. Assuming Elko will coach as bad as Sumlin or Fran is stupid. I judge Elko and the current program on what he has achieved the past 2 years; not previous coaches. So far Elko is delivering.

As an Aggie BAS is the most annoying thing in the world, seems like over half of those who claim to have BAS just do so to complain. Me personally, I just have no expectations so I'm not disappointed or I'm incredibly proud for a great season.

Elko has put blood, sweat, and tears into a program that was basically ruined by Jimbo. And the crazy thing is, even without or season being over he's already create one hell of a platform for next year.

Sit back, relax, and get ready for some Aggie football in Americas best venue. Win or lose, no one should look at this season and be upset.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47324381/texas-mike-elko-college-football-playoff

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The history lesson in the first half of that piece was painful as hell. The following summary on Elko would give Bob Costas a boner if this was ND or Michigan instead of A&M.

I'm protecting myself - tapping the breaks and taking a wait-n-see approach to Saturday...Feels eerily like we've been here before...

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The Aggies have been under the brightest lights before. And, they have let you down. Damn near every single time. Hell. 1-9 when Gameday is in CS.

And there some here claiming BAS isn't real.

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Yeah well he hasn't been an Aggie fan, just a paid employee for a few seasons, he don't know what it's like.

30 years of aggie football sample data is enough to temper expectations. Id love to see us get a natty but at the end of the day I dont really expect it and the outcome of a game or season has zero impact on my life anyway. My degree says texas a&m and ill be an aggie till I die either way.

T sips always claim we never win 10 games and they always do. Funny that this year we won 11 and they only won 9 which wasn't enough. The article mentions several 10 win seasons along with one of the best records in all of college football for the 1990s decade. Three top 8 finishes versus none for tu since we joined the SEC. 4th best record in SEC since we joined as well behind only Bama, LSU and Georgia. Tu has won 1 title in 55 years. They are not even as successful as Nebraska since the big 12 started shedding teams.tu won the big 12 once since 2012 and hasn't won the SEC in any major sport. Pretenders.

I have examined next years schedules for the Texas Aggies and tu and I see us going 10-2 or 9-3 and Tu struggling to get to 6-6. But the Now part of GRIND is what matters. Bring Cotton Saturday. Remember 42-10 on Coach Jackie Sherrills 42nd birthday.

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2-0 vs lsu with 2 blowout wins, Sumlin never beat lsu and Jimbo was 50/50. Elko is the best coach we have ever had. Make him the highest paid coach with a 10 year fully guaranteed contract.

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I mean, LSU isn't exactly good, these days. Jimbo faced maybe the best LSUI team ever. He also finsished in the top 4. Elko is probably not in the playoff with any of Jimbo's schedules. 10 year contract is stupid, and partly why we have been a joke.

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This thread has done an excellent job of bringing out the trolls and/or dumbasses.