The scrapyard across the street has something like a 100 year lease due to all the toxic junk seeping into the ground underneath it.randy828 said:Marauder Blue 6 said:Wearer of the Ring said:
I worked at a Holmes Rd address for years. Pretty dreary as were most of the immediate environs.
Same. Any time I turned on to Holmes, I could just feel my spirit deflate a little. I do not miss driving that gauntlet.
+2. Mid 90's. I remember that was one place I worked that we ALL left by 5pm just to get away from there before dark. Tuboscope Vetco
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TarponChaser said:
And HOLY *****, it's 100% evidence of "import the 3rd world, become the third world." Reminds me of sketchy part of border towns on the other side of the Rio Grande.
Reminds me of one of my favorite stories .... few years ago, I took my adult kids to my old neighborhood in Sharpstown (near Hillcroft and Bellaire). Some of the houses aren't too bad for their age but the commercial areas around there are rough.
My kids were incredulous. They kept saying, "You LIVED here?" And finally I said ... "well, it didn't look like this back then!"
Then I threatened to take them to where we lived when we moved from the area -- Alief. Which is a whole different kind of scary.
Houston -- where neighborhoods last a couple of decades at most.
lb sand said:
The stretch of liberty between 59 and the rail yard is like going back in time. Once past the rail yard it's just ****ty area for dumping tires and dead bodies.
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EclipseAg said:TarponChaser said:
And HOLY *****, it's 100% evidence of "import the 3rd world, become the third world." Reminds me of sketchy part of border towns on the other side of the Rio Grande.
Reminds me of one of my favorite stories .... few years ago, I took my adult kids to my old neighborhood in Sharpstown (near Hillcroft and Bellaire). Some of the houses aren't too bad for their age but the commercial areas around there are rough.
My kids were incredulous. They kept saying, "You LIVED here?" And finally I said ... "well, it didn't look like this back then!"
Then I threatened to take them to where we lived when we moved from the area -- Alief. Which is a whole different kind of scary.
Houston -- where neighborhoods last a couple of decades at most.
The only places missing from your list are Channelview or Sheldon.
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Reminds me of one of my favorite stories .... few years ago, I took my adult kids to my old neighborhood in Sharpstown (near Hillcroft and Bellaire). Some of the houses aren't too bad for their age but the commercial areas around there are rough.
Before my family relocated to my parents' home town, Lake Jackson, we lived in Sharpstown. On Sharpview between Fondren and Hillcroft. In the early 70s it was a wonderful area - I used to walk to elementary school with friends, no parents. After I graduated from A&M, I found myself in the area one day and wondered what the old house looked like. It was still there, in seemingly decent shape for its age (probably 35 years old at that point in the early 90s), but that whole area was already looking rather sketchy. Even then I didn't think I'd want to venture into that neighborhood at night. I don't think I'd want to go there in the day now.
Arena Theatre is still there!
HBU, excuse me, HCU growing and buying some land around there has probably been a good development for the area.
HBU, excuse me, HCU growing and buying some land around there has probably been a good development for the area.
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I will take Lawndale or Manchester St as two of the worst streets in Houston.
Biz Ag said:EclipseAg said:TarponChaser said:
And HOLY *****, it's 100% evidence of "import the 3rd world, become the third world." Reminds me of sketchy part of border towns on the other side of the Rio Grande.
Reminds me of one of my favorite stories .... few years ago, I took my adult kids to my old neighborhood in Sharpstown (near Hillcroft and Bellaire). Some of the houses aren't too bad for their age but the commercial areas around there are rough.
My kids were incredulous. They kept saying, "You LIVED here?" And finally I said ... "well, it didn't look like this back then!"
Then I threatened to take them to where we lived when we moved from the area -- Alief. Which is a whole different kind of scary.
Houston -- where neighborhoods last a couple of decades at most.
The only places missing from your list are Channelview or Sheldon.
Sad part is, Sharpstown and Alief were great places to grow up in the '70s. As Cinco Ranch Aggie said, they were safe, clean, middle-class neighborhoods.
Unfortunately all of this is proof there is a replacement going on.
Ferris Wheel Allstar said:
I will take Lawndale or Manchester St as two of the worst streets in Houston.
Manchester - true the neighborhood off Manchester just outside 610 is bizarre. Houses and city park literally across the street and next door to giant industrial plants. Just a mess. However the street itself isn't too bad. I've ridden it plenty of times east from Broadway to Central St (big pothole directly under 610) to the bridge going south and hairpin turn to Lawndale.
Lawndale - that portion from under the Central St bridge going east is awful. It's like a moonscape of potholes. Then they've closed up the underpass under a railroad (I think permanently closed?). But the portion of Lawndale east of the closure, it's parallel and north of 225, is like an airport runway. Smooth, flat and great for putting in bike miles. There's a donut shop on the eastern edge! Interestingly there's a hidden historical marker along this stretch describing where/how Sam Houston made a boat to carry his troops from the north side of the bayou to the south side of the bayou, where he chased down Santa Anna a few days later.
EclipseAg said:TarponChaser said:
And HOLY *****, it's 100% evidence of "import the 3rd world, become the third world." Reminds me of sketchy part of border towns on the other side of the Rio Grande.
Reminds me of one of my favorite stories .... few years ago, I took my adult kids to my old neighborhood in Sharpstown (near Hillcroft and Bellaire). Some of the houses aren't too bad for their age but the commercial areas around there are rough.
My kids were incredulous. They kept saying, "You LIVED here?" And finally I said ... "well, it didn't look like this back then!"
Then I threatened to take them to where we lived when we moved from the area -- Alief. Which is a whole different kind of scary.
Houston -- where neighborhoods last a couple of decades at most.
Thats just how Houston pretty much always has been. When people are buying a house, why buy something 20-30 years old when something brand new is just 10 min further out of town. Then the neighborhood of older houses becomes a neighborhood of majority rental homes and then a tipping point is reached where it is no longer a desirable neighborhood. The only ones that seem to avoid that are ones with HOA fees so high that it keeps the average income of the resident at a higher level or ones whose property values were so high to start with that it just stayed too high to ever become lower middle class. That doesn't even account for jobs relocating to follow their workforce.
Sea Speed said:
Anything around hobby. Westheimer west of the galleria is pretty terrible.
Agree - by the time you get to the few landscaped areas close to the airport, you think you arrived at an oasis of paradise.
HDeathstar said:Sea Speed said:
Anything around hobby. Westheimer west of the galleria is pretty terrible.
Agree - by the time you get to the few landscaped areas close to the airport, you think you arrived at an oasis of paradise.
1960 pretty much anywhere from I-10 to I-45 on the west side is about 90% urban blight.
txags92 said:HDeathstar said:Sea Speed said:
Anything around hobby. Westheimer west of the galleria is pretty terrible.
Agree - by the time you get to the few landscaped areas close to the airport, you think you arrived at an oasis of paradise.
1960 pretty much anywhere from I-10 to I-45 on the west side is about 90% urban blight.
The nice pockets of 1960 have disappeared. Willowbrook area has become a hellhole. I used to go there a lot as a teenager in the 90s, and now it's an absolute run-down mess. It's a real shame what the area from 45 to 249 has become. Veterans Memorial, south of 1960, was tough back in the 90s. I bet it's worse now. 249 to 290 has always been trash -- as long as I can remember.
And -- a comment on Gulfton:
When I used to work in news, we had a reporter and photographer go to an apartment complex off Gulfton in a live truck -- covering a murder investigation. This was probably 2015 or so. Anyway, they were prepping for the 4 or 5pm newscast, police were still at the complex. When they got out of the truck to do their live shot, someone had sprayed gang graffiti on the truck. After the live shot, police were wrapping the scene and told our crew that they needed to leave because with police leaving, they wouldn't have any protection. They recommended our crew not stick around for a later report without a police presence onsite.
What sucks about the veterans memorial area being run down even more now is how grimy the area feels at the national cemetery. Hell, even the cemetery grounds seem to have gone to hell. Weeds and old things at the graves everywhere and last time I went it felt like it hadn't been mowed in a while.
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Too late to nominate roads with rainbow crosswalks?
Lee Rd. by IAH.
chico said:Ferris Wheel Allstar said:
I will take Lawndale or Manchester St as two of the worst streets in Houston.
Manchester - true the neighborhood off Manchester just outside 610 is bizarre. Houses and city park literally across the street and next door to giant industrial plants. Just a mess. However the street itself isn't too bad. I've ridden it plenty of times east from Broadway to Central St (big pothole directly under 610) to the bridge going south and hairpin turn to Lawndale.
Lawndale - that portion from under the Central St bridge going east is awful. It's like a moonscape of potholes. Then they've closed up the underpass under a railroad (I think permanently closed?). But the portion of Lawndale east of the closure, it's parallel and north of 225, is like an airport runway. Smooth, flat and great for putting in bike miles. There's a donut shop on the eastern edge! Interestingly there's a hidden historical marker along this stretch describing where/how Sam Houston made a boat to carry his troops from the north side of the bayou to the south side of the bayou, where he chased down Santa Anna a few days later.
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HtownAg92 said:MAROON said:
Memorial Drive from downtown all the way to almost the Beltway is nice. Woodway is nice.
There are some beautiful residential streets - North and South Blvd are just two.
Post Oak between Westheimer and the Loop is nice - but it's going downhill - was better before riderless bus lane and the removal of the cool street signs.
Memorial inbound between the park and downtown is a great view also -- the skyline above the trees is nice.
I also dated a girl in the mid 90's who lived off of 1960 near Kuykendall. It was actually pretty nice area all the way to Willowbrook Mall. Katrina killed it and turned it into a ghetto.
i take the quick route on Memorial from Shepherd into town every weekend and just absolutely love that short stretch of road.
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