TPUSA in high school

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happyinBCS
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I have 9 grandchildren in Texas public schools and worry about the direction the state is going

" Let me be clear Any school that stands in the way of a club America program in their school should be immediately reported to the Texas Education agency " per our governor

I am a lifelong conservative republican, and all my two daughters are telling me is Dad we just want our kids to learn and have teachers that teach with no politics

thoughts hopefully kind
histag10
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... so are you upset that TPUSA is in high schools, or want it in high schools?
halibut sinclair
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We had plenty of TP in my high school.
happyinBCS
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it does not matter to me because there are many organizations at every Texas high school and all is good

My question or point in my post is why the Governor is making a statement like he did?

maroon barchetta
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My economics teacher was a radical lib that wasn't shy about giving us her opinions and 20 years later one of my kids had her for the same class and it was the same thing, to the point of claiming that 9/11 was Bush's fault while they were watching it unfold live that day in school.

There have always been teachers pushing politics. This doesn't pretend to be something it's not.
histag10
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Thanks for clarifying your point. It truly wasnt clear in your OP. It was 4 random statements that had nothing to do with the title of the thread.
cavscout96
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Back with my standard solution that prevents political indoctrination from either tribe...

Homeschool.

And yes it IS an option for anyone. You can't drive two brand new cars, have a 60 screen in every room, and an iPhone 17 for each of your pre-teens, but if your willing to "sacrifice" those things it's certainly an option.
aggie-1997
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So putting TPUSA in your thread title was just clickbait to get people's reaction to a comment made by the govenor that did not directly mention TPUSA?

Education of the designed curriculum should be what is in schools. Now the current curriculum can certainly be debated as it is outdated and in some cases absolutely meaningless. We should be teaching kids knowledge and skills that actually apply and not continually provide worthless knowledge that will not impact their life past the exam.
EFR
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The governor's statement does mention TPUSA, club america is their high school branch.
histag10
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To be fair, the governor's statement was about TPUSA (Club America is the high school version), and the state government partnering with them to bring Club America to high schools.

As for the OPs issues- these are student led organizations. I have no issues with that. Allow your children to explore politics in a safe way. This isnt teachers pushing their beliefs down the throats of students- this is giving students who want to get involved in politics (particularly conservative politics) an outlet to do so in high school.
Jinx
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If they are student led, I am fine with it as long as all the other student led/teacher sponsored programs are allowed as well up to and including various religious organizations, lgbt, hobby groups etc.

If anything it gives me a good idea of who my kids are consorting with at school and what conversations we should probably be having at home. Learning to live in a world where not everyone sees things the way you do is something I feel like we've lost.
cavscout96
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Jinx said:

If they are student led, I am fine with it as long as all the other student led/teacher sponsored programs are allowed as well up to and including other religious organizations, lgbt, hobby groups etc.

If anything it gives me a good idea of who my kids are consorting with at school and what conversations we should probably be having at home. Learning to live in a world where not everyone sees things the way you do is something I feel like we've lost.

This is true. It is also true that there are ideas and ideals that are harmful to the individual and to the community. It is further true that in the marketplace of ideas these detrimental movements are loosing propositions. It is only when bad ideas are propped up by state actors and institutions and the tools of the state are used to indoctrinate young and malleable minds, that they have any hope of surviving harsh reality.

So, yes, learn all of the great and nuanced things, but test each against reality and truth and do not be afraid to publicly and politely reject/renounce those that do not measure up.
gunan01
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The governor absolutely should not be weighing in on these things. I guess separation of church and state is not something that exists anymore? Between the Ten Commandments, school vouchers (which will undoubtedly increase religious private school enrollment), and these comments, it's pretty clear where the government's priorities lay in Texas.

He has said they'll use $1M of "campaign funds" to promote schools getting these TP Club America chapters. Remember that the next time you think of donating to one of his campaigns.
woodometer
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happyinBCS said:

it does not matter to me because there are many organizations at every Texas high school and all is good

My question or point in my post is why the Governor is making a statement like he did?



The governor is running for reelection
EliteElectric
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Government should be small and efficient. It should stay out of all social affairs and allow it's population to decide on what should and should not be. That applies to marriage, health, business etc.

I believe this sums it up nicely

Quote:

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.

Thomas Jefferson

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cavscout96
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EliteElectric said:

Government should be small and efficient. It should stay out of all social affairs and allow it's population to decide on what should and should not be. That applies to marriage, health, business etc.

I believe this sums it up nicely

Quote:

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.

Thomas Jefferson



TJ FTW!
Rex Racer
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happyinBCS said:

it does not matter to me because there are many organizations at every Texas high school and all is good

My question or point in my post is why the Governor is making a statement like he did?



Because he doesn't want liberal school boards to prevent a TP USA chapter from being established at a high school if that's what the kids want. Why is that in any way threatening to you?
histag10
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gunan01 said:

The governor absolutely should not be weighing in on these things. I guess separation of church and state is not something that exists anymore? Between the Ten Commandments, school vouchers (which will undoubtedly increase religious private school enrollment), and these comments, it's pretty clear where the government's priorities lay in Texas.

He has said they'll use $1M of "campaign funds" to promote schools getting these TP Club America chapters. Remember that the next time you think of donating to one of his campaigns.



My take from it is that the government is saying they won't allow schools to prohibit clubs based on political leanings. There are plenty of liberal organizations already in schools.
MelvinUdall
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happyinBCS said:

it does not matter to me because there are many organizations at every Texas high school and all is good

My question or point in my post is why the Governor is making a statement like he did?




All is he is saying is that schools shouldn't stand in the way of TPUSA orgs being created on campus, not demanding that they have to, just not stop them…I know he wants as many on campuses as possible, but no school shouldn't stand disallow this org from forming.
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