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oklaunion
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I wonder if the goat was found at the Gillespie county sale barn? Lot of animals from all over are taken there.
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oklaunion said:

I wonder if the goat was found at the Gillespie county sale barn? Lot of animals from all over are taken there.


That was my question as well. That is where we typically sell goats and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a goat that was brought in for sale from somewhere down south closer to the other recent cases.
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We should be furious that both the state and federal government did not act sooner. Today, Trump appoints A&M Regent Bellinger to head the response. Abbot gives an Executive Order last week ordering every available resource to give a full court press to attack NWS. USAID was gutted and cut monitoring and tracking of the fly throughout South American countries. A new sterile fly facility started construction in Edinburg. Won't be online till 2027.

Good grief. When the pest got within 500 miles of the United States, we should have been going all in!!!

Drastic measures may have to be implemented. It is now in counties not close to each other. Have to stop movement.

Stop rodeos? Jackpot stock shows? Auctions?

I realize you are messing with ag commerce. But until they get a handle on this, it may take temporary drastic measures.
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Informed today we are in a quarantined area. Guess the good news is I'll start getting fly drops. Working closely with TPW biologists. Let me know if y'all have any questions. We are in SE LaSalle county.

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Sale barn in Uvalde.
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Chatted via text with the county biologist (who was backed up by their health specialist) about the deer I posted above. Their belief is that it is not likely to be NWS at this time based on the timeline (I was able to find pictures back to at least a month ago). But they want us to keep a close eye on it and try to get a better look via binos if we get the chance to make sure it doesn't become infected.
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Good to hear!

Does anyone on this thread or have connections with someone that has legitimate pictures of deer that are infected? Would be nice to have something for reference when checking out my 150-200 pics a day. My luck, the aoudad will be the only thing they don't infect…
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Has nothing to do with USAID cuts. They were past Panama and well into Mexico during Biden administration. They should have started building the fly production facilities then, but that didn't start until last year after Trump took office.
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"I'm from the government and here to help"
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FishrCoAg said:

Deerdude said:

I don't know anybody running several thousand head by themselves or with one partner.
Heck, my tightwad cousin is running 400 pairs and has a dozen hands helping.


Big ranches out here do have multiple hands, but not enough to gather really big pastures without hiring day help. Doing it monthly would be expensive, the alternative of checking those pastures multiple times a week is also daunting. That's just one of the reasons we need to nip this thing in the bud quickly

Not nearly as expensive as losing cattle.
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Don't disagree but finding all of them in a 5k acre pasture with canyons and brush just isn't likely, and those ol girls learn to hide out after being gathered a few time.
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txags92 said:

Chatted via text with the game warden (who was backed up by their health specialist) about the deer I posted above. Their belief is that it is not likely to be NWS at this time based on the timeline (I was able to find pictures back to at least a month ago). But they want us to keep a close eye on it and try to get a better look via binos if we get the chance to make sure it doesn't become infected.


I learned a long time ago that game wardens don't necessarily make the best biologists. Personally I'd forward the pics to your Comal Co. biologist and go from there.
Gig 'em! '90
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

Good to hear!

Does anyone on this thread or have connections with someone that has legitimate pictures of deer that are infected? Would be nice to have something for reference when checking out my 150-200 pics a day. My luck, the aoudad will be the only thing they don't infect…


Pics of animals, including some deer, with NWS here.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/cattle/ticks/screwworm/new-world-screwworm-photo-gallery
Gig 'em! '90
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SanAntoneAg said:

txags92 said:

Chatted via text with the game warden (who was backed up by their health specialist) about the deer I posted above. Their belief is that it is not likely to be NWS at this time based on the timeline (I was able to find pictures back to at least a month ago). But they want us to keep a close eye on it and try to get a better look via binos if we get the chance to make sure it doesn't become infected.


I learned a long time ago that game wardens don't necessarily make the best biologists. Personally I'd forward the pics to your Comal Co. biologist and go from there.

Sorry, my mistake in saying game warden, I was talking to the main biologist for Comal county listed on the TPWD website, and I believe she was consulting their animal health specialist as well.
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A dog with screwworms was found in Andrew's County. Of course it had been down to Mexico and brought back up. People are going to **** around and spread this worse.

https://www.aaha.org/trends-magazine/publications/usda-halts-u-s-pet-dog-and-multiple-other-animal-exports-to-mexico-amid-multiple-new-world-screwworm-cases/
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Cromagnum said:

A dog with screwworms was found in Andrew's County. Of course it had been down to Mexico and brought back up. People are going to **** around and spread this worse.

https://www.aaha.org/trends-magazine/publications/usda-halts-u-s-pet-dog-and-multiple-other-animal-exports-to-mexico-amid-multiple-new-world-screwworm-cases/

It was in New Mexico, but was brought to a vet in Andrews. But yes, it had reportedly been in Mexico recently.
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txags92 said:

SanAntoneAg said:

txags92 said:

Chatted via text with the game warden (who was backed up by their health specialist) about the deer I posted above. Their belief is that it is not likely to be NWS at this time based on the timeline (I was able to find pictures back to at least a month ago). But they want us to keep a close eye on it and try to get a better look via binos if we get the chance to make sure it doesn't become infected.


I learned a long time ago that game wardens don't necessarily make the best biologists. Personally I'd forward the pics to your Comal Co. biologist and go from there.

Sorry, my mistake in saying game warden, I was talking to the main biologist for Comal county listed on the TPWD website, and I believe she was consulting their animal health specialist as well.


Good to hear. You done good!
Gig 'em! '90
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jagsdad said:

FishrCoAg said:

Deerdude said:

I don't know anybody running several thousand head by themselves or with one partner.
Heck, my tightwad cousin is running 400 pairs and has a dozen hands helping.


Big ranches out here do have multiple hands, but not enough to gather really big pastures without hiring day help. Doing it monthly would be expensive, the alternative of checking those pastures multiple times a week is also daunting. That's just one of the reasons we need to nip this thing in the bud quickly

Not nearly as expensive as losing cattle.

Not in Texas but a neighbor state. Yes, ideally doing the checking multiple times a week or more realistically a month is better than losing cattle. But, trying to find thousands of head in our neck of the woods in canyons, brush, trees, etc. spread over 10k, 20k, 30k, acres, etc. just isn't feasible with the manpower (or lack thereof). add in the wildlife and you've got a nightmare.
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txags92 said:

Cromagnum said:

A dog with screwworms was found in Andrew's County. Of course it had been down to Mexico and brought back up. People are going to **** around and spread this worse.

https://www.aaha.org/trends-magazine/publications/usda-halts-u-s-pet-dog-and-multiple-other-animal-exports-to-mexico-amid-multiple-new-world-screwworm-cases/

It was in New Mexico, but was brought to a vet in Andrews. But yes, it had reportedly been in Mexico recently.


Another DVM friend from that area with knowledge of the case said the reports the dog had been to Mexico are incorrect. Concerning if true.
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Thanks for the info sir......I bet it was, or is, an internet version of a "telephone" interpretation. Dog is prolly from NM and in sensationalist conversation the "New" part got dropped.
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Thank you
Deerdude
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Vets on the board I've got a question. I've got a dart gun I've used quite a bit. I'm wondering, since with wildlife you frequently get one shot at an animal. If you spotted a suspected infection on an animal, would you dart it with a parasitic or antibiotic, or can you combine the two in one dart?
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Combining is not wise because of compatibility issues (potentially) as well as the volume needed. Also with darting you can theoretically create a big enough wound to allow new infestation if the drug isn't delivered completely
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You're correct, but also, Panhandle Ag here to say, there are SO MANY negligent dog owners in this area. The stray problem is awful, parvo is rampant, and it doesn't surprise me that a dog in this area is infected because many people have a dog but few are good dog owners.
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Mas89 said:


Ticks on cattle have just become a problem this year in the last two weeks on our Houston area ranch. The above calf has a bent ear, indicating numerous ticks on the tip. Currently waiting on a few days of dry weather to pen the different pastures and spray All of the cattle. They will All have a wound in the ears which will heal after spraying and killing the ticks. These cattle would all be susceptible to the screwworm today if it was already in our area. An umbilical cord on a newborn and Any wound are where the larvae are laid by the fly.
We will treat all animals every 30 days or so going forward, and keep out the insecticide soaked back rubbers. No problem for us with open pastures and being there. Friends and relatives have brush/hill country ranches where they only pen cattle twice a year or so and checking routinely isn't practical. These will be the animals sold off first if the screwworm becomes widespread. Cattle numbers will further decline, as seen by today's price increase.

Needless to say the deer and all other wild animals will also have ticks and be susceptible for that reason alone. Pen raised animals and domestic ones can be treated but the wild are dependent on a successful sterile fly program.

You need to treat that smuttgrass
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Not nearly as expensive as losing cattle.

Tecolote said:

Not in Texas but a neighbor state. Yes, ideally doing the checking multiple times a week or more realistically a month is better than losing cattle. But, trying to find thousands of head in our neck of the woods in canyons, brush, trees, etc. spread over 10k, 20k, 30k, acres, etc. just isn't feasible with the manpower (or lack thereof). add in the wildlife and you've got a nightmare.


I wonder if drones would make it more feasible to track & check.
Perhaps RFID ear tags and a drone equipped with RFID interrogator . Expensive, but still cheaper than cattle loss.
Deerdude
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If you want to see your cattle, close the gate to the water trap for a day. Ho back next day to let them in to water and you'll see early if not all of them,
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Deerdude said:

If you want to see your cattle, close the gate to the water trap for a day. Ho back next day to let them in to water and you'll see early if not all of them,


In a 6 section pasture?? There's more than one watering spot.
Deerdude
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Yea could Also see water holes with recent rains around the state. Then back to feed bucket and horn.
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LOL, your comment reminds me of a ranch in the Panhandle that I was lucky enough to hunt on a few times. all of their pastures were named. Yu know you have alot of land if one of your pastures is called the 6 section pasture
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drred4 said:

LOL, your comment reminds me of a ranch in the Panhandle that I was lucky enough to hunt on a few times. all of their pastures were named. Yu know you have alot of land if one of your pastures is called the 6 section pasture


Yep. Had a client that had the 6, the 5, and the 3 section on one ranch. Plus some other names pastures.
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Yet to be confirmed but sounds like there might be a goat (or three) in burnet county as well…
 
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