Without spoiling too much, you won't have to deal with diagonal pogo for too long...

Finally got him!

Soooooo…. Yah. It's way harder than hollow knight so far, but maybe it just seems that way because being used to the knight fully powered up vs weakened hornet lol. The two masks thing on bosses does really suck, gets a little better once you have some other items to help cope with it. Savage beast fly… screw that guy, I rage quit fighting him. Probably about time to go back now that I've upgraded the needle!

I like Metroidvania games, but not sold one way or other on the art style. Is it necessary to play Hollowknight to jump into the sequel? I'm sure its a good game on its own.

You can definitely jump directly into Silksong and be fine.

But Hollow Knight is a fantastic game and it's worth playing first.

I am currently working my way through Hollow Knight, but put a few hours into Silksong last night and really liked it. Love the different feel and game so far.

I started HK the weekend before last. It has the best music of any metroidvania I've played, and I've played many! Very enjoyable.
The deepnest has been my favorite area so far.

Art direction is good, but I prefer metroidvanias that have more pixel art. I'll eventually get to Silksong.

I am at the age now where I primarily watch my sons play. One of mine is playing the original HK. What a killer game! So huge! He is one that is going to go for 112%. I am not sure where he is right now, but guessing...maybe 50%. It is hard to tell because it is such a wide-open landscape of a game that I am not sure where he is in story-line and side quests. Anyhow, fantastic game!

Saw some gameplay videos. Man...what kinda BS is this?

I guess this is a save spot, but its actually a death trap like a dark souls chest mimic?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14GdbqNRin5/

I grabbed a video of that and sent it to my friend when it happened to me cause I was so annoyed.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Finally got him!

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Me too after going back owned him pretty quickly. Worst part about him is the crappy upgrade he was guarding. Glad I gave up and came back lol

Yeah, I gave up and kept playing, returned with 2 new upgrades, and it was easily half as difficult as it was for me previously. (And yeah, I haven't even used the upgrade it gave me.)

Lesson learned, if you are bashing your head against the wall on a certain boss, just keep going and come back later.

Im at a boss and I think its the big one between big parts of the story. Ive scoured the map and there doesn't seem to be anything left to find without going online and spoiling everything, but I'm getting close to having to do that. A couple hours of the tough trip from the bench to the boss and then a hell of a boss fight are wearing out my resolve to beat the game without spoilers.

howdydamnit04 said:

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Im at a boss and I think its the big one between big parts of the story. Ive scoured the map and there doesn't seem to be anything left to find without going online and spoiling everything, but I'm getting close to having to do that. A couple hours of the tough trip from the bench to the boss and then a hell of a boss fight are wearing out my resolve to beat the game without spoilers.

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To avoid spoilers: Fire mace guy? Key is be patient. I found only attacking when he jumps and just dodge the other attacks to be the best strategy. You can skip all the mobs between bench and him takes about one minute to get back to him. And yes, opens up again once you beat him.

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Saw some gameplay videos. Man...what kinda BS is this?

I guess this is a save spot, but its actually a death trap like a dark souls chest mimic?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14GdbqNRin5/

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I fell for it, my son had actually already been there and tried to warn me but he was too slow lol

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howdydamnit04 said:

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Im at a boss and I think its the big one between big parts of the story. Ive scoured the map and there doesn't seem to be anything left to find without going online and spoiling everything, but I'm getting close to having to do that. A couple hours of the tough trip from the bench to the boss and then a hell of a boss fight are wearing out my resolve to beat the game without spoilers.

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To avoid spoilers: Fire mace guy? Key is be patient. I found only attacking when he jumps and just dodge the other attacks to be the best strategy. You can skip all the mobs between bench and him takes about one minute to get back to him. And yes, opens up again once you beat him.

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That's the one. He's a buttface. I've gotten him to the 3rd stage once and but I was on my last mask so didn't last long.

Cromagnum said:

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Saw some gameplay videos. Man...what kinda BS is this?

I guess this is a save spot, but its actually a death trap like a dark souls chest mimic?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14GdbqNRin5/

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I wonder if it's a callback to Symphony of the Night, where something similar can happen.

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bbattbq01 said:

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howdydamnit04 said:

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Im at a boss and I think its the big one between big parts of the story. Ive scoured the map and there doesn't seem to be anything left to find without going online and spoiling everything, but I'm getting close to having to do that. A couple hours of the tough trip from the bench to the boss and then a hell of a boss fight are wearing out my resolve to beat the game without spoilers.

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To avoid spoilers: Fire mace guy? Key is be patient. I found only attacking when he jumps and just dodge the other attacks to be the best strategy. You can skip all the mobs between bench and him takes about one minute to get back to him. And yes, opens up again once you beat him.

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That's the one. He's a buttface. I've gotten him to the 3rd stage once and but I was on my last mask so didn't last long.

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I'm going to have his opening sounds stuck in my head for a long time given how many tries I took to beat him lol.
Seriously though, use wanderers crest and only attack on the jumps. Jump when the fire comes out and it should miss you and you can get at least 4 or 5 hits in. Should mostly recharge your silk too so you can keep healed up. Pro tip: after you beat him move away from him or you'll end up like me having to fight him another obscene amount of times.

I have no idea how close I am to Act 2, but I recently got thrown into The Slab. Fun getting out.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I have no idea how close I am to Act 2, but I recently got thrown into The Slab. Fun getting out.

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That happened to me last night, are you sure you aren't in act2… figured that could only happen after you unlocked the area??

Is there a title card that says Act 2? Cause I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it.

I hadn't actually unlocked that area yet.

Edit: I bet the trigger for it is the Bellhart boss? I went back to other areas first to visit all the areas I couldn't access earlier, which led me to that cutscene.

Well thats crazy… how did you get from the slab back to familiar territory?

Fast travel station at the bottom of the map.

Oh yeah, forgot there was a station there too, I was only thinking of in another area.

If you could only play one, HK or SS ?

Right now I'd probably say HK. I want to say SS because I love the game, mostly… and it's way bigger than HK, but the fact that I've been stuck on a few bosses now for HOURS is taking some of the shine off SS. Don't remember ever being stuck that long on a boss in HK. And it's not like it's because they are doing some crazy attack I haven't seen or don't know how to dodge, it's just the fact that most moves they have take two masks of damage and if you make one mistake you can get stun locked and back to the bench. Case in point last night I spent like four (i know, dumb) hours on one boss because inevitably during my run I'd get hit by a random grenade he tossed while watching him to see if his next move was going to be tornados or explosions or whatever. Once I got hit by the grenade it was pretty much game over because I'd then get hit by the next attack whatever it was lol. Have been a few bosses like that. Just feels over punishing. Like crap just bouncing around the arena should do one mask of damage. Save two masks for actual attacks. I'm hopeful they'll do some kind of balance pass and ease the difficulty on some of this stuff or I don't know how any sane people are going to finish this game. *****ing about that boss aside, the fist boss in act2 was absolutely amazing. Sound, visuals, fairness… died a few times while learning the patterns, but was able to win in a short amount of time once I'd learned them. Not like the BS guy I fought last night.

TLDR: I want it to be SS, but it's HK at this moment.

bbattbq01 said:

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howdydamnit04 said:

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howdydamnit04 said:

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Im at a boss and I think its the big one between big parts of the story. Ive scoured the map and there doesn't seem to be anything left to find without going online and spoiling everything, but I'm getting close to having to do that. A couple hours of the tough trip from the bench to the boss and then a hell of a boss fight are wearing out my resolve to beat the game without spoilers.

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To avoid spoilers: Fire mace guy? Key is be patient. I found only attacking when he jumps and just dodge the other attacks to be the best strategy. You can skip all the mobs between bench and him takes about one minute to get back to him. And yes, opens up again once you beat him.

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That's the one. He's a buttface. I've gotten him to the 3rd stage once and but I was on my last mask so didn't last long.

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I'm going to have his opening sounds stuck in my head for a long time given how many tries I took to beat him lol.
Seriously though, use wanderers crest and only attack on the jumps. Jump when the fire comes out and it should miss you and you can get at least 4 or 5 hits in. Should mostly recharge your silk too so you can keep healed up. Pro tip: after you beat him move away from him or you'll end up like me having to fight him another obscene amount of times.

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Thanks for the protip. I managed to win on attempt number #20 or so last night and my kids would have learned some new words if that had killed me. Also probably would have had to buy a new Switch too.

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Right now I'd probably say HK. I want to say SS because I love the game, mostly… and it's way bigger than HK, but the fact that I've been stuck on a few bosses now for HOURS is taking some of the shine off SS. Don't remember ever being stuck that long on a boss in HK. And it's not like it's because they are doing some crazy attack I haven't seen or don't know how to dodge, it's just the fact that most moves they have take two masks of damage and if you make one mistake you can get stun locked and back to the bench. Case in point last night I spent like four (i know, dumb) hours on one boss because inevitably during my run I'd get hit by a random grenade he tossed while watching him to see if his next move was going to be tornados or explosions or whatever. Once I got hit by the grenade it was pretty much game over because I'd then get hit by the next attack whatever it was lol. Have been a few bosses like that. Just feels over punishing. Like crap just bouncing around the arena should do one mask of damage. Save two masks for actual attacks. I'm hopeful they'll do some kind of balance pass and ease the difficulty on some of this stuff or I don't know how any sane people are going to finish this game. *****ing about that boss aside, the fist boss in act2 was absolutely amazing. Sound, visuals, fairness… died a few times while learning the patterns, but was able to win in a short amount of time once I'd learned them. Not like the BS guy I fought last night.

TLDR: I want it to be SS, but it's HK at this moment.

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Kinda hate to say it but I like the difficulty. Its nice not being able to walk through the game and actually struggling to be perfect.

I like it too, other than the bs boss attacks!

I just finished up MGS3 Delta and need something to tide me over till Battlefield. Guess I'll give HK a try

Bile water is the worst.

Got the first ending today.

Last boss took me far fewer tries than most of the bosses lol

My daughter finished this thing….took 66 hours.

She needs to get a job

Last Judge is tough.

I'm making solid progress but I've probably fought this thing for about 1.5 hours now...

How many hours have you played?