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Rex Racer said:

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Most overrated nut in existence. I prefer so many other kinds.

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No these are the worst.

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On that, I can agree, but I don't think Brazil nuts are overrated. I don't know anyone who likes them. Those are always the last nuts eaten out of a can of mixed nuts!

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That's because people are racist and/or probably legitimately scared to even eat one because of virtue signaling. [half joking]

I like Brazil nuts.

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GDit I like chocolate covered almonds from Buc-ee's. Let the water flow!

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I like Buc-ee's salt water taffy.

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we should replace the almond orchards with salt water taffy orchards! Problem solved!

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This is genius! We can skip the expensive desalination plant and just pump the saltwater onto the orchard.

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SunrayAg is on a roll…just leave him be…or he is wasted, hard to tell.

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Might be a bot with suicide ideation.

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Or maybe it's just a guy who lives west of 35 and is seeing the water situation real time in the state.

Anyone with any critical thinking skills could see a water issue in Texas with the population increases over the last 20 years. It's too bad our "leadership" ignored that.

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There is a problem to deal with, but he is still saying ridiculous things…

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

The "conservative talking points generator" has determined that we need data centers on every corner and anyone who opposes them is the same as a climate tard.

And I have said multiple times on multiple threads, I don't oppose data centers. I oppose destroying farm and ranch land and green spaces and rural communities. Put the data centers in industrial areas in big cities and I'm fine with them.

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Who are you to tell land owners what they can do with THEIR land?

People need a reminder on the water cycle.

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People need a reminder on the water cycle.

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wait...3rd grade is coming back to me. My third grade mind is telling me...

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A lot of golf courses use gray water and more will in the future or close up. So yes, you will have to pry my 7-iron out of my cold, arthritic fingers.

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Think Pebble CREEK is a great example of using reclaimed water to make the golf course green.

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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People need a reminder on the water cycle.

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wait...3rd grade is coming back to me. My third grade mind is telling me...

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Take it to the Data Centers thread. There was additional lack of understanding on the water cycle. It was sad.

Read Cadillac Desert.

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Read Cadillac Desert.

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Is that the artist thing in West Texas where the cars are buried? That's pretty cool.

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SunrayAg said:

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And your point is?

Almonds provide nutritional value to humans.

Data centers provide a bot to write emails for you.

If you think food is less important than human intellectual laziness, then maybe you should stop eating?

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Oh dear God. If that's your perception of the impact AI you should sit this one out. You have to understand both sides of an argument before you can adequately participate in said argument. This is the core problem of the left, they barely understand their own side and have no clue what the other side is saying.

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Clearly you have the critical thinking ability of a wilted turnip, so I will type real slow…

But if you think I have anything to do with the left because I don't want data centers destroying farms and ranches and rural communities, then your brain is too warped for me to help you.

But the shrieking "data centers on every field" crowd keeps shrieking "don't post on the internet unless you love data centers". My response is, if you have a problem with farming stop eating. Responding to absurdity with absurdity is kind of how I roll.

Also maybe read the post just above yours…

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A footprint is a footprint. How does a data center destroy a farm differently than a fulfillment center, a pipe yard, airport, or a new suburb or anything else?

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SunrayAg said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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SunrayAg said:

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And your point is?

Almonds provide nutritional value to humans.

Data centers provide a bot to write emails for you.

If you think food is less important than human intellectual laziness, then maybe you should stop eating?

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Oh dear God. If that's your perception of the impact AI you should sit this one out. You have to understand both sides of an argument before you can adequately participate in said argument. This is the core problem of the left, they barely understand their own side and have no clue what the other side is saying.

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Clearly you have the critical thinking ability of a wilted turnip, so I will type real slow…

But if you think I have anything to do with the left because I don't want data centers destroying farms and ranches and rural communities, then your brain is too warped for me to help you.

But the shrieking "data centers on every field" crowd keeps shrieking "don't post on the internet unless you love data centers". My response is, if you have a problem with farming stop eating. Responding to absurdity with absurdity is kind of how I roll.

Also maybe read the post just above yours…

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A footprint is a footprint. How does a data center destroy a farm differently than a fulfillment center, a pipe yard, airport, or a new suburb or anything else?

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I have also not seen the offset for no longer wasting water on farmland. How do the uses compare?

Interesting. I will share but based on my last conversation with him, I would expect he is on top of the latest. Bee keeping is really fascinating. So crazy how important they are to our existence and how fragile that ecosystem can be.

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Water Footprint will soon be the new Carbon Footprint.

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Crybabies in the hill country been moaning about this for decades.

No reason we shouldn't have nuclear powered desalination plants all along the coast.

Bunch of made up crisis to distract you.

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Seems like desalination is the way moving forward. Why isn't it used more? I'm guessing cost prohibitive?

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Cost is one. Environmental hurdles is another. Flip a coin as to which one is the bigger mountain to climb.

That's just for the desal plant. Haven't even gotten to the pipelines, booster stations, etc. for distribution. Water doesn't just magically come out of a plant and end up at a city.

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SunrayAg said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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SunrayAg said:

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And your point is?

Almonds provide nutritional value to humans.

Data centers provide a bot to write emails for you.

If you think food is less important than human intellectual laziness, then maybe you should stop eating?

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Oh dear God. If that's your perception of the impact AI you should sit this one out. You have to understand both sides of an argument before you can adequately participate in said argument. This is the core problem of the left, they barely understand their own side and have no clue what the other side is saying.

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Clearly you have the critical thinking ability of a wilted turnip, so I will type real slow…

But if you think I have anything to do with the left because I don't want data centers destroying farms and ranches and rural communities, then your brain is too warped for me to help you.

But the shrieking "data centers on every field" crowd keeps shrieking "don't post on the internet unless you love data centers". My response is, if you have a problem with farming stop eating. Responding to absurdity with absurdity is kind of how I roll.

Also maybe read the post just above yours…

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A footprint is a footprint. How does a data center destroy a farm differently than a fulfillment center, a pipe yard, airport, or a new suburb or anything else?

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I don't want any of those around me either.

But to be fair, none of those you listed use nearly the volume of water that a data center does. Here's the thing - depending on where you are in the world, you may or may not have surface water readily available. If you don't, you drill wells. In my neck of the woods once you pump water out of the ground, the ground sinks. And we will never be able to raise it back up again. Which means the aquifer volume is constantly being reduced and the ground is slowly sinking. It also means that if you don't have one, a subsidence district gets created, which means another level of government, more taxes, etc.

All so Meta or whomever can mine for bitcoin at your expense.

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SunrayAg is on a roll…just leave him be…or he is wasted, hard to tell.

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Might be a bot with suicide ideation.

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Or maybe it's just a guy who lives west of 35 and is seeing the water situation real time in the state.

Anyone with any critical thinking skills could see a water issue in Texas with the population increases over the last 20 years. It's too bad our "leadership" ignored that.

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There is a problem to deal with, but he is still saying ridiculous things…

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

The "conservative talking points generator" has determined that we need data centers on every corner and anyone who opposes them is the same as a climate tard.

And I have said multiple times on multiple threads, I don't oppose data centers. I oppose destroying farm and ranch land and green spaces and rural communities. Put the data centers in industrial areas in big cities and I'm fine with them.

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Who are you to tell land owners what they can do with THEIR land?

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While we all love the idea of private property rights, the fact of the matter is that you don't have unfetterd rights to do whatever on your property without regard to how your actions affect those properties around you. It's been that way for hundreds of years, if not longer.

Otherwise I sincerely hope that you wake up one day with a salvage yard, pig farm and toxic waste dump surrounding your property.

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

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I'd say that your claim that desal plants will cost trillions was ridiculous and inaccurate.

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SunrayAg said:

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

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I'd say that your claim that desal plants will cost trillions was ridiculous and inaccurate.

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Seems so. The San Diego plant mentioned above was $1 billion.

If we can build $3 billion football stadiums then why are desal plants for difficult?

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

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I'd say that your claim that desal plants will cost trillions was ridiculous and inaccurate.

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Seems so. The San Diego plant mentioned above was $1 billion.

If we can build $3 billion football stadiums then why are desal plants for difficult?

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Football stadiums are sexy. Desal plants are not...most people aren't familiar with them, what they do, how they work, impact to surroundings, etc.

Goes back to my very early post that the industry has some education to do on this front. We should be building more of these along with nuclear, but the PR hurdle to overcome for both is significant.

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

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I'd say that your claim that desal plants will cost trillions was ridiculous and inaccurate.

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Seems so. The San Diego plant mentioned above was $1 billion.

If we can build $3 billion football stadiums then why are desal plants for difficult?

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Football stadiums are sexy. Desal plants are not...most people aren't familiar with them, what they do, how they work, impact to surroundings, etc.

Goes back to my very early post that the industry has some education to do on this front. We should be building more of these along with nuclear, but the PR hurdle to overcome for both is significant.

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You just do it like Elon did with Starbass.

And before that we could build this:

Sure. Go convince local communities first they need it though.

Took Corpus getting pushed against a catastrophic outcome before they finally decided they needed one and they are still 30 to 45 days from choosing a project developer as reported yesterday by the Corpus Caller Times.

And then it will be several years from that to even get the water online. In the meantime, they are expected to cut water by 25% in September to all residents and business and from there they could actually deadpool before they ever get close to using the desal plant.

Oh I understand the challenges. But people need to quit *****ing and get to itching on making something happen.

Water is not a near term nor long term issue for me.

But I would happily invest in desal and nuclear projects in Texas.

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

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I'd say that your claim that desal plants will cost trillions was ridiculous and inaccurate.

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Seems so. The San Diego plant mentioned above was $1 billion.

If we can build $3 billion football stadiums then why are desal plants for difficult?

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That $1B was in 2015. It would run close to $3.5B to $4B if it were built today.

And when you see the costs of these plants, those are for the plants only. They almost never include the distribution side of the system costs, which can be every bit as much or often more than the cost of the plant itself.

It took 14 years from the time the plant was authorized until the time it came online. A lot of that was because of it being tied up in courts due to NIMBY's and lawsuits.

Though old I think that number was "all in" with the plant being about 60-70%.

Point is the $$& not the problem. It's the ones you describe.

Time is now for people to get serious. Trump admin is slashing red tape like none other.

In 1.0 they cut 12 regulations for every new one added.

As of his speech minutes ago, he reports they are currently at 129 regulations cut per new one added. Yesterday on refrigerants was YUGE.

I encourage people to get very serious on fresh water. I plan to move to a land of plenty in that regard. That doesn't work for everyone.

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Oh I understand the challenges. But people need to quit *****ing and get to itching on making something happen.

Water is not a near term nor long term issue for me.

But I would happily invest in desal and nuclear projects in Texas.

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I predict it will take some communities outright failing before this issue becomes critical enough for the majority to force the issue. Which is pretty standard human behavior, frankly.

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SunrayAg is on a roll…just leave him be…or he is wasted, hard to tell.

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Might be a bot with suicide ideation.

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Or maybe it's just a guy who lives west of 35 and is seeing the water situation real time in the state.

Anyone with any critical thinking skills could see a water issue in Texas with the population increases over the last 20 years. It's too bad our "leadership" ignored that.

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There is a problem to deal with, but he is still saying ridiculous things…

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

The "conservative talking points generator" has determined that we need data centers on every corner and anyone who opposes them is the same as a climate tard.

And I have said multiple times on multiple threads, I don't oppose data centers. I oppose destroying farm and ranch land and green spaces and rural communities. Put the data centers in industrial areas in big cities and I'm fine with them.

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Who are you to tell land owners what they can do with THEIR land?

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While we all love the idea of private property rights, the fact of the matter is that you don't have unfetterd rights to do whatever on your property without regard to how your actions affect those properties around you. It's been that way for hundreds of years, if not longer.

Otherwise I sincerely hope that you wake up one day with a salvage yard, pig farm and toxic waste dump surrounding your property.

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I get that. Placing some regulations on them is probably in order due to the sheer amount of resources they take up. It's the almost superstitious belief in their inherent evil that keeps showing up in the rhetoric that is striking.

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Point is the $$& not the problem. It's the ones you describe.

Time is now for people to get serious. Trump admin is slashing red tape like none other.

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I disagree with you on some issues but you're 100% right here. A developer had a plan for a desalination plant at Huntington Beach and it got a final "no" in the early 2020s after TWENTY YEARS of permitting and fighting lawsuits. This is not a functioning or serious process/government. The southwest is in a critical drought and we're letting special interest groups kill vital solutions.

The absolute craziest part? Some of the non profit organizations that killed the Huntington Beach plant received federal and state money! So we - you and I - literally paid these loonies to deny us something that we desperately needed and wanted.

As you wrote, it's time to get serious. Enough is enough.

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Teslag said:

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jpb1999 said:

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SunrayAg is on a roll…just leave him be…or he is wasted, hard to tell.

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Might be a bot with suicide ideation.

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Or maybe it's just a guy who lives west of 35 and is seeing the water situation real time in the state.

Anyone with any critical thinking skills could see a water issue in Texas with the population increases over the last 20 years. It's too bad our "leadership" ignored that.

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There is a problem to deal with, but he is still saying ridiculous things…

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I haven't said anything ridiculous yet.

Just accurate.

The "conservative talking points generator" has determined that we need data centers on every corner and anyone who opposes them is the same as a climate tard.

And I have said multiple times on multiple threads, I don't oppose data centers. I oppose destroying farm and ranch land and green spaces and rural communities. Put the data centers in industrial areas in big cities and I'm fine with them.

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Who are you to tell land owners what they can do with THEIR land?

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While we all love the idea of private property rights, the fact of the matter is that you don't have unfetterd rights to do whatever on your property without regard to how your actions affect those properties around you. It's been that way for hundreds of years, if not longer.

Otherwise I sincerely hope that you wake up one day with a salvage yard, pig farm and toxic waste dump surrounding your property.

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I live rural. Someone built a trailer park right behind my property in my sight line that used to be pristine pasture.

I didn't raise a stink. It's not my property not my business.

Drilled water rights you got a point, because you share it. But telling your farmer neighbor he can't sell because it ruined your view or you think his land isn't being used for the commerce you want is complete and total bull*****

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ts5641 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Vogon Poet said:

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Water Footprint will soon be the new Carbon Footprint.

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Crybabies in the hill country been moaning about this for decades.

No reason we shouldn't have nuclear powered desalination plants all along the coast.

Bunch of made up crisis to distract you.

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Seems like desalination is the way moving forward. Why isn't it used more? I'm guessing cost prohibitive?

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Cost is one. Environmental hurdles is another. Flip a coin as to which one is the bigger mountain to climb.

That's just for the desal plant. Haven't even gotten to the pipelines, booster stations, etc. for distribution. Water doesn't just magically come out of a plant and end up at a city.

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Did Corpus have any plans for powering the thing?

The desal plants in Israel and Saudi Arabia are really good at being energy efficient, but it's still not a low-power operation.

4Ts Energy Solutions - Tortas on Treadmills Turn Turbines

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Spanish Marcona Almonds>Ca Almonds

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Infinitely.

And the ones that are herbed - chef's kiss.

I actually did turn in a proposal for one of my lower level engineering courses proposing "Power Gyms", where the stationary cycles or ellipticals were connected to generators, and you received so much credit on your energy bill for working out. Solving the power and obesity crisis at the same time.

Think I only got a B, but it's been too long to remember. Prof was fat...

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This is a tough guy thread.

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Well, now it is. I'm here now.

We're seeking volunteers who will agree to inhabit about 5,000 housing units that we plan to put in low Earth orbit later this year.

When Elon Musk sends his rockets to put data centers in space, we plan to have NIMBYs already there to protest them.

— Nick Danger (@regnad_kcinn) May 23, 2026