doubledog said:

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New Flash. Trump is the first U.S. President in our life time to loose money while in office.

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Not in his second term though...Wow!

Trump Jumps 118 Spots On The Forbes 400 List Thanks To Presidency:
https://share.google/gzES6nK5k3NFfoNy1

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flown-the-coop said:

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Pelosi just endorsed Maury Povichs wife to replace her in Congress so I am sure the insider trading will continue.

She also appears to be a Hung Kong born Chinese spy whose platform is "opposing the policies of Donald J Trump".

Our with the old, in with the slightly less botoxed variety.

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Connie Chung?? Pretty big name anchor back in the day. No surprise Pelosi is endorsing another elderly left winger.

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In full disclosure her name is Connie Chan. But you would be hard pressed to tell them apart.

But the part about her being a Chinese spy is true.

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doubledog said:

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New Flash. Trump is the first U.S. President in our life time to loose money while in office.

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Not in his second term though...Wow!

Trump Jumps 118 Spots On The Forbes 400 List Thanks To Presidency:
https://share.google/gzES6nK5k3NFfoNy1

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See first term.

For 2nd term, headline should be "Trumps net worth soars billions as his popularity explodes following years of Dem warfare on him, his companies, his friends, his family and even his life!"

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doubledog said:

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New Flash. Trump is the first U.S. President in our life time to loose money while in office.

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Not in his second term though...Wow!

Trump Jumps 118 Spots On The Forbes 400 List Thanks To Presidency:
https://share.google/gzES6nK5k3NFfoNy1

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Most of that wealth growth was 2017-2024. I will wait to see how the 2nd term pans out.

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According to financial estimates by Forbes and Bloomberg Billionaires Index, his net worth dropped from roughly $3.5B when he took office 2017 to about $2.4B by the time he left 2021.

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So Trump makes a filing with the ethics office overseeing this stuff and fully discloses it and it's public information but somehow this is Trump doing insider trading or similar?

Your hate for those who have more than you is truly bizarre.

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So Pelosi makes a filing with the ethics office overseeing this stuff and fully discloses it and it's public information but somehow this it Pelosi insider trading or similar?

All investments should be in broad index funds with no trading allowed once they are set (they could add to them at a preset date each month) for all members of Congress, executive branch leadership and Federal Justices including the Supremes.

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With Pelosi there is a whole mountain of data indicating inside information.

With Trump, it's that the algorithm his advisers used bought a bunch of muni bonds with zero indication Trumps investments were outperforming others.

Or… Trump is a scumbag manipulating markets and enriching himself through his office. That's much more plausible cause he knows he will get away with it.

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Your original statement was there is no sign with Trump because he filed with the compliance officer so there can be no insider trading. Don't forget Trump has the ability to move the market as President way more than any other person in the world. If he knows what he holds, he can influence how it performs with a simple post on Truth. This is an optics issue that highlights why there should be no holding of individual stocks.

As for Pelosi, she is joined by a bipartisan group of Congress people with a lot of questionable trades. She and her husband don't even have close to the best track record on trading in Congress. Last year, Republicans topped the list of best investment performance.

Rep. Tim Moore (R-N.C.): +52%
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): +50%
Rep. Lisa McClain (R-Mich.): +37%
Rep. Pete Ricketts (R-Neb.): +37%
Rep. Thomas Suozzi (D-N.Y.): +35%
Rep. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska): +35%
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.): +33%
Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-Mich.): +29%
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.): +29%
Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.): +29%

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/move-over-pelosi-congress-member-233111954.html

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Pelosi gets crap because it's an extended stretch of beating the absolute **** out of the S&P 500. One year of better than S&P means nothing at all on its own. I beat the absolute **** out of the S&P last year largely because I have decent amount of money in AMD, NVDA, and PLTR. We would need to look at each of those individuals performances both within 2025 and in previous years to really determine whether or not there is likely insider tomfoolery going on.

As a point of comparison there are ETFs that mimic Cruz and Pelosi trading. Over 3 years KRUZ is up 24% and NANC is up 92%. You tell me which one you think is probably doing some bulk insider trading.

Businessman doing business.

Now do Nancy.

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Businessman doing business.

Now do Nancy.

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You first. Even Paulie Poop Slap got tired of gettin in Nans
panz.

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So Trump makes a filing with the ethics office overseeing this stuff and fully discloses it and it's public information but somehow this is Trump doing insider trading or similar?

Your hate for those who have more than you is truly bizarre.

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So Pelosi makes a filing with the ethics office overseeing this stuff and fully discloses it and it's public information but somehow this it Pelosi insider trading or similar?

All investments should be in broad index funds with no trading allowed once they are set (they could add to them at a preset date each month) for all members of Congress, executive branch leadership and Federal Justices including the Supremes.

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With Pelosi there is a whole mountain of data indicating inside information.

With Trump, it's that the algorithm his advisers used bought a bunch of muni bonds with zero indication Trumps investments were outperforming others.

Or… Trump is a scumbag manipulating markets and enriching himself through his office. That's much more plausible cause he knows he will get away with it.

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Your original statement was there is no sign with Trump because he filed with the compliance officer so there can be no insider trading. Don't forget Trump has the ability to move the market as President way more than any other person in the world. If he knows what he holds, he can influence how it performs with a simple post on Truth. This is an optics issue that highlights why there should be no holding of individual stocks.

As for Pelosi, she is joined by a bipartisan group of Congress people with a lot of questionable trades. She and her husband don't even have close to the best track record on trading in Congress. Last year, Republicans topped the list of best investment performance.

Rep. Tim Moore (R-N.C.): +52%
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): +50%
Rep. Lisa McClain (R-Mich.): +37%
Rep. Pete Ricketts (R-Neb.): +37%
Rep. Thomas Suozzi (D-N.Y.): +35%
Rep. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska): +35%
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.): +33%
Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-Mich.): +29%
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.): +29%
Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.): +29%

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/move-over-pelosi-congress-member-233111954.html

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Interesting. What were Trump's returns on these billion or so trades he made? Was that info left out?

Oh, and

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Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-Mich.): +29%
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.): +29%
Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.): +29%

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That may just be underperforming the market.

Finally, Trump's investments came randomly. Nancy's mostly came right before something happened and needed insider info on exactly when to buy and when to sell, which she mostly timed just perfectly. While you may not be able to see the difference, most others can.

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doubledog said:

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New Flash. Trump is the first U.S. President in our life time to loose money while in office.

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Not in his second term though...Wow!

Trump Jumps 118 Spots On The Forbes 400 List Thanks To Presidency:
https://share.google/gzES6nK5k3NFfoNy1

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You're either lying or you didn't actually bother to read the article since this was the 2nd sentence in the article:

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The president is now worth a record $7.3 billion, up from $4.3 billion in 2024, when he was still running for office.

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That many trades are algo trades. Trump is not phoning a broker with insider info.

I would restrict politicians to index funds only.

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The volume could be an attempt to hide the suspicious trades within a flood of other trades that don't have any suspicious aspects. First line of defense could be just to claim it was all an algorithm, and good luck to anyone trying to prove it otherwise.

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Logos Stick said:

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That many trades are algo trades. Trump is not phoning a broker with insider info.

I would restrict politicians to index funds only.

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The volume could be an attempt to hide the suspicious trades within a flood of other trades that don't have any suspicious aspects. First line of defense could be just to claim it was all an algorithm, and good luck to anyone trying to prove it otherwise.

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Hiding it by disclosing it all?

It's not like it's written in undetectable code and banker boxes of paper files.

I assume you looked at none of the articles, details and information provided?

Looks like a conflict of interest to me. But who cares, This is America. We make money any way we can. Then we find reasons to justify like "free markets" or "capitalism" or "you commie"

Look for the Trump boot-lickers (as opposed to just voters) to emerge who will rush to defend anything he does, even bad stuff.

Key insight: He is bullish on tech. Buy tech. He may have insider information wink wink

Trump traded over $50 million in 'Magnificent 7' stocks last quarter, loading up on Apple and Google and selling Tesla
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/trump-traded-over-50-million-in-magnificent-7-stocks-last-quarter-loading-up-on-apple-and-google-and-selling-tesla-100000562.html

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President Trump made 94 different trades of "Magnificent Seven" stocks in the first quarter of 2026, a new ethics disclosure shows, executing millions of dollars in transactions even as he was meeting with and often promoting these top tech companies.
The trades were valued at between $50 million and $70 million across 64 buy orders and 30 stock sales.

The president, on net, loaded up on Apple (AAPL) and Alphabet (GOOG), while selling more Tesla stock than he bought, a Yahoo Finance analysis found. His account also executed more than a dozen transactions each of Nvidia (NVDA), Meta Platforms (META), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), rounding out the Magnificent Seven.
The disclosure only indicates stock sales in broad ranges, meaning it was unclear whether the president ended the quarter with more or fewer shares of those latter four companies' stock in his portfolio.

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You may want to tap the brakes on your stock newsletter and read that last paragraph real, real carefully.

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Looks like a conflict of interest to me. But who cares, This is America. We make money any way we can. Then we find reasons to justify like "free markets" or "capitalism" or "you commie"

Look for the Trump boot-lickers (as opposed to just voters) to emerge who will rush to defend anything he does, even bad stuff.

Key insight: He is bullish on tech. Buy tech. He may have insider information wink wink

Trump traded over $50 million in 'Magnificent 7' stocks last quarter, loading up on Apple and Google and selling Tesla
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/trump-traded-over-50-million-in-magnificent-7-stocks-last-quarter-loading-up-on-apple-and-google-and-selling-tesla-100000562.html

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President Trump made 94 different trades of "Magnificent Seven" stocks in the first quarter of 2026, a new ethics disclosure shows, executing millions of dollars in transactions even as he was meeting with and often promoting these top tech companies.
The trades were valued at between $50 million and $70 million across 64 buy orders and 30 stock sales.

The president, on net, loaded up on Apple (AAPL) and Alphabet (GOOG), while selling more Tesla stock than he bought, a Yahoo Finance analysis found. His account also executed more than a dozen transactions each of Nvidia (NVDA), Meta Platforms (META), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), rounding out the Magnificent Seven.
The disclosure only indicates stock sales in broad ranges, meaning it was unclear whether the president ended the quarter with more or fewer shares of those latter four companies' stock in his portfolio.

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Sounds like my trades. I wonder if he uses my broker.

Also sounds like many other trades by other people. Lots of investors have those same trades. You see, they call them magnificent 7 for a reason. Lots and lots of people made lots and lots of money.

No insider trading. No conflict of interest. Just one of the millions of brokers buying hot stocks for their clients.

LMAO!!

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New Flash. Trump is the first U.S. President in our life time to loose money while in office.

We should all invest in the nothing-burger fast food franchise, because there is a lot of those burgers these days.

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He increased his wealth by over $3billion in the first year of this term. Don't be naive.

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Businessman doing business.

Now do Nancy.

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Well, when you influence world markets, business becomes easy...

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New Flash. Trump is the first U.S. President in our life time to loose money while in office.

We should all invest in the nothing-burger fast food franchise, because there is a lot of those burgers these days.

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He increased his wealth by over $3billion in the first year of this term. Don't be naive.

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And which part was illegal?

If the President can control the market with his statements, AND can trade on the same market, there is a conflict of interest.

But Aggies being Aggies, we don't understand what "conflict of interest" means.

Sad.

But what do I care? I just do index funds so I don't GAF. I get rich regardless of what Trump does. It is better that way, less stress, just make money and relax.

Something I learned from the Boomer - to be okay watching the destruction of America as long as I make money.

I was only commenting on the fact that poor trump lost money being president. That isn't the case currently. As to being legal or not, if you don't think he and his buddies are profiting from the swings in the market, I don't know what to tell you. But I wish I was included.

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If the President can control the market with his statements, AND can trade on the same market, there is a conflict of interest.

But Aggies being Aggies, we don't understand what "conflict of interest" means.

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Only when it is someone they like in office

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If the President can control the market with his statements, AND can trade on the same market, there is a conflict of interest.

But Aggies being Aggies, we don't understand what "conflict of interest" means.

Sad.

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You honestly think Trump is tipping off his advisers before he announces policy?

Have you shown any evidence of this?

To me, conflict of interest is having an employee who is rogue trading in violation of company policy, possibly also doing so during business hours.

Just because some people think rules don't apply to them does not mean all people think that way.

If you a have evidence of insider trading, let's hear it.

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I was only commenting on the fact that poor trump lost money being president. That isn't the case currently. As to being legal or not, if you don't think he and his buddies are profiting from the swings in the market, I don't know what to tell you. But I wish I was included.

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Are you prohibited from trading on market volatility for some reason?

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Looks like a conflict of interest to me. But who cares, This is America. We make money any way we can. Then we find reasons to justify like "free markets" or "capitalism" or "you commie"

Look for the Trump boot-lickers (as opposed to just voters) to emerge who will rush to defend anything he does, even bad stuff.

Key insight: He is bullish on tech. Buy tech. He may have insider information wink wink

Trump traded over $50 million in 'Magnificent 7' stocks last quarter, loading up on Apple and Google and selling Tesla
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/trump-traded-over-50-million-in-magnificent-7-stocks-last-quarter-loading-up-on-apple-and-google-and-selling-tesla-100000562.html

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President Trump made 94 different trades of "Magnificent Seven" stocks in the first quarter of 2026, a new ethics disclosure shows, executing millions of dollars in transactions even as he was meeting with and often promoting these top tech companies.
The trades were valued at between $50 million and $70 million across 64 buy orders and 30 stock sales.

The president, on net, loaded up on Apple (AAPL) and Alphabet (GOOG), while selling more Tesla stock than he bought, a Yahoo Finance analysis found. His account also executed more than a dozen transactions each of Nvidia (NVDA), Meta Platforms (META), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), rounding out the Magnificent Seven.
The disclosure only indicates stock sales in broad ranges, meaning it was unclear whether the president ended the quarter with more or fewer shares of those latter four companies' stock in his portfolio.

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Sounds like my trades. I wonder if he uses my broker.

Also sounds like many other trades by other people. Lots of investors have those same trades. You see, they call them magnificent 7 for a reason. Lots and lots of people made lots and lots of money.

No insider trading. No conflict of interest. Just one of the millions of brokers buying hot stocks for their clients.

LMAO!!

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Example:

• AAPL price is $100
• Trump says "We are gonna tax Apple into Bolivian and cut all their H1Bs and stop Apple offshoring!".
• AAPL Stock tanks to $60.
• Trump buys 100000000000000000000000000 shares at $60/share
• Trump says "Actually we like Apple... they build beautiful phones... I like Tim Cook, he loves America.. MAGA!".
• Shares pop to $120/share.
• Trump just doubled his investment.

Dunderheads like myself just went from $100 to $120. Trump went from $60 to $120.

Profit!

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I was only commenting on the fact that poor trump lost money being president. That isn't the case currently. As to being legal or not, if you don't think he and his buddies are profiting from the swings in the market, I don't know what to tell you. But I wish I was included.

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You think Trump's Wall Street peeps are making sure Trump and his buddies benefit financially from every action, then non action, then action, etc done by Trump via tweet or whatnot?

And, on top of that you think Trump has no clue that's going on and he's just happening to make money?

Come on, man.

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Are you prohibited from trading on market volatility for some reason?

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You are when you are causing market volatility.

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Science Denier said:

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infinity ag said:

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Looks like a conflict of interest to me. But who cares, This is America. We make money any way we can. Then we find reasons to justify like "free markets" or "capitalism" or "you commie"

Look for the Trump boot-lickers (as opposed to just voters) to emerge who will rush to defend anything he does, even bad stuff.

Key insight: He is bullish on tech. Buy tech. He may have insider information wink wink

Trump traded over $50 million in 'Magnificent 7' stocks last quarter, loading up on Apple and Google and selling Tesla
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/trump-traded-over-50-million-in-magnificent-7-stocks-last-quarter-loading-up-on-apple-and-google-and-selling-tesla-100000562.html

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President Trump made 94 different trades of "Magnificent Seven" stocks in the first quarter of 2026, a new ethics disclosure shows, executing millions of dollars in transactions even as he was meeting with and often promoting these top tech companies.
The trades were valued at between $50 million and $70 million across 64 buy orders and 30 stock sales.

The president, on net, loaded up on Apple (AAPL) and Alphabet (GOOG), while selling more Tesla stock than he bought, a Yahoo Finance analysis found. His account also executed more than a dozen transactions each of Nvidia (NVDA), Meta Platforms (META), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), rounding out the Magnificent Seven.
The disclosure only indicates stock sales in broad ranges, meaning it was unclear whether the president ended the quarter with more or fewer shares of those latter four companies' stock in his portfolio.

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Sounds like my trades. I wonder if he uses my broker.

Also sounds like many other trades by other people. Lots of investors have those same trades. You see, they call them magnificent 7 for a reason. Lots and lots of people made lots and lots of money.

No insider trading. No conflict of interest. Just one of the millions of brokers buying hot stocks for their clients.

LMAO!!

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Example:

• AAPL price is $100
• Trump says "We are gonna tax Apple into Bolivian and cut all their H1Bs and stop Apple offshoring!".
• AAPL Stock tanks to $60.
• Trump buys 100000000000000000000000000 shares at $60/share
• Trump says "Actually we like Apple... they build beautiful phones... I like Tim Cook, he loves America.. MAGA!".
• Shares pop to $120/share

Trump just doubled his investment.
Dunderheads like myself just went from $100 to $120. Trump went from $60 to $120.

Profit!

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Did that happen?

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If the President can control the market with his statements, AND can trade on the same market, there is a conflict of interest.

But Aggies being Aggies, we don't understand what "conflict of interest" means.

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Only when it is someone they like in office

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Their verbal gymnastics trying to defend Trump on this is fun to watch!

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You think Trump's Wall Street peeps are making sure Trump and his buddies benefit financially from every action, then non action, then action, etc done by Trump via tweet or whatnot?

And, on top of that you think Trump has no clue that's going on and he's just happening to make money?

Come on, man.

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I don't totally understand your comment. But I think Trump knows exactly what's going on, if that is your question.

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Are you prohibited from trading on market volatility for some reason?

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You are when you are causing market volatility.

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You said you wished you could participate in the market going up and down. Why don't you?

Do your misread, do you think Trump is making money from manipulating the market? Do you have evidence?

If so, impeach him. Until then…

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You think Trump's Wall Street peeps are making sure Trump and his buddies benefit financially from every action, then non action, then action, etc done by Trump via tweet or whatnot?

And, on top of that you think Trump has no clue that's going on and he's just happening to make money?

Come on, man.

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I don't totally understand your comment. But I think Trump knows exactly what's going on, if that is your question.

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As soon as he gets done personally checking on the ballroom discussion and haggling with the press, he is going to go back in, have a Diet Coke whilst making individual stock trades, then head into the situation room, take a break to get an update on those trades, then head back in and set up the next 3 market manipulations via Truth Social.

Seriously?

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You think Trump's Wall Street peeps are making sure Trump and his buddies benefit financially from every action, then non action, then action, etc done by Trump via tweet or whatnot?

And, on top of that you think Trump has no clue that's going on and he's just happening to make money?

Come on, man.

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I don't totally understand your comment. But I think Trump knows exactly what's going on, if that is your question.

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Nailed it.

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infinity ag said:

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Looks like a conflict of interest to me. But who cares, This is America. We make money any way we can. Then we find reasons to justify like "free markets" or "capitalism" or "you commie"

Look for the Trump boot-lickers (as opposed to just voters) to emerge who will rush to defend anything he does, even bad stuff.

Key insight: He is bullish on tech. Buy tech. He may have insider information wink wink

Trump traded over $50 million in 'Magnificent 7' stocks last quarter, loading up on Apple and Google and selling Tesla
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/trump-traded-over-50-million-in-magnificent-7-stocks-last-quarter-loading-up-on-apple-and-google-and-selling-tesla-100000562.html

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President Trump made 94 different trades of "Magnificent Seven" stocks in the first quarter of 2026, a new ethics disclosure shows, executing millions of dollars in transactions even as he was meeting with and often promoting these top tech companies.
The trades were valued at between $50 million and $70 million across 64 buy orders and 30 stock sales.

The president, on net, loaded up on Apple (AAPL) and Alphabet (GOOG), while selling more Tesla stock than he bought, a Yahoo Finance analysis found. His account also executed more than a dozen transactions each of Nvidia (NVDA), Meta Platforms (META), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), rounding out the Magnificent Seven.
The disclosure only indicates stock sales in broad ranges, meaning it was unclear whether the president ended the quarter with more or fewer shares of those latter four companies' stock in his portfolio.

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Sounds like my trades. I wonder if he uses my broker.

Also sounds like many other trades by other people. Lots of investors have those same trades. You see, they call them magnificent 7 for a reason. Lots and lots of people made lots and lots of money.

No insider trading. No conflict of interest. Just one of the millions of brokers buying hot stocks for their clients.

LMAO!!

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Example:

• AAPL price is $100
• Trump says "We are gonna tax Apple into Bolivian and cut all their H1Bs and stop Apple offshoring!".
• AAPL Stock tanks to $60.
• Trump buys 100000000000000000000000000 shares at $60/share
• Trump says "Actually we like Apple... they build beautiful phones... I like Tim Cook, he loves America.. MAGA!".
• Shares pop to $120/share

Trump just doubled his investment.
Dunderheads like myself just went from $100 to $120. Trump went from $60 to $120.

Profit!

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Did that happen?

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not only did it not happen - had it happened everyone has access to buy the equity at $60

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You said you wished you could participate in the market going up and down. Why don't you?

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No, I said I wish he would include me when he is about to bounce an economic sector, so I can make a sure fire bet like his ilk. You seem like a smart guy, so I'm sure you know that this is going on and it's not limited to Trump.

Yup. Blatantly promoting stocks that he bought, even including the ticker symbol in his posts.



Worse are the hundreds of millions in trades made on oil and stocks just before his posts on Iran. Has happened multiple times.

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Yup. Blatantly promoting stocks that he bought, even including the ticker symbol in his posts.



Worse are the hundreds of millions in trades made on oil and stocks just before his posts on Iran. Has happened multiple times.

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Who made those trades and how are they related to the Trump admin? What information were they provided and when versus the public?

If you have receipts then post them. Should be easy.