Registering Illegals to Vote

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chilimuybueno
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I know a few people who volunteer in registering voters. Is it a crime in Texas to register an illegal, either knowingly or unknowingly? If not, should it be? I am not familiar with the Texas laws on this.
Picard
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Turn them in anyway and let the authorities sort it out

BadMoonRisin
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Yes. Under both federal law and Texas law, it is illegal to knowingly register a non-U.S. citizen to vote if that person is not legally eligible to vote. That can apply to the noncitizen, and potentially to anyone who knowingly helps submit a false registration.


chatgpt.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
chilimuybueno
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Thanks. Yeah and gpt tell me that it is NOT a crime to unknowingly register an illegal.

doubledog
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No ID on you, No problem you can still vote according the Texas Democrats

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If you're a registered voter but do not possess one of the documents listed above, don't worry, you can still vote a regular ballot! Here's how:
1. Bring one of the following to your voting site:
  • Valid voter registration card/certificate
  • Current utility bill (or a copy)
  • Bank statement (or a copy)
  • Government check (or a copy)
  • Paycheck (or a copy)
  • Current government document with your name and address on it (including an out-of-state driver's license)
  • Certified birth certificate (must be an original)
2. Fill out a form at the voting site stating that (1) you are who you say you are and (2) have a reasonable impediment or difficulty getting one of the acceptable photo IDs.



I do not think this is correct.

https://www.texasdemocrats.org/what-to-bring
BadMoonRisin
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chilimuybueno said:

Thanks. Yeah and gpt tell me that it is NOT a crime to unknowingly register an illegal.



there is a portion in there about having prior knowledge to them being illegal is one of the things required for being a crime, for some insane reason.

I think this is how these strange USAID NGOs were able to do it, they watch them walk across the border and know they are illegal, but if they dont ask and assume they can register to vote, it's somehow not a crime.

either way, if you can prove that someone knowingly registers someone to vote that they know is not eligible, its a crime. thing is, you have to be able to prove that they knew.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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You are eligible to register to vote if:
  • You are a United States citizen;
  • You are a resident of the county where you submit the application;
  • You are at least 17 years and 10 months old on the date your voter registration application is submitted, and you are 18 years of age on Election Day.
  • You are not a convicted felon (you may be eligible to vote if you have completed your sentence, probation, and parole); and
  • You have not been declared by a court exercising probate jurisdiction to be either totally mentally incapacitated or partially mentally incapacitated without the right to vote.



https://www.votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/eligibility-for-registration.html

Also, the Election Code, Chapter 13, has some prohibited acts:

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Sec. 13.007. FALSE STATEMENT ON APPLICATION. (a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly or intentionally:
(1) makes a false statement; or
(2) requests, commands, coerces, or attempts to induce another person to make a false statement on a registration application.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that an offense under this section is a state jail felony if the person:
(1) directly or through a third party offers or provides compensation or other benefit to a person for activity described by Subsection (a); or
(2) solicits, receives, or accepts compensation or other benefit for an activity described by Subsection (a).
(c) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under another law, the actor may be prosecuted under this section, the other law, or both.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docviewer?docName=EL.13.htm%2313.007
nai06
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volunteer voter registrars act as facilitators of voter registration. When you register to vote with one, they walk you through the steps of filling out the form and turn it in for you. They are not supposed to verify a person's citizenship because that is done by the county or state. That person is not registered to vote the moment they fill out the form but after it is processed by the relevant authority. They are instructed to explain what each question means and not to answer them for you.


So it wouldn't be the a crime because they are not the one filling out the form and affirming that the information is correct and true.


Bondag
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chilimuybueno said:

I know a few people who volunteer in registering voters. Is it a crime in Texas to register an illegal, either knowingly or unknowingly? If not, should it be? I am not familiar with the Texas laws on this.



Real ID to vote. If it's a national security issue at the airport it should be a national security issue at the ballot box.
nai06
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Bondag said:

chilimuybueno said:

I know a few people who volunteer in registering voters. Is it a crime in Texas to register an illegal, either knowingly or unknowingly? If not, should it be? I am not familiar with the Texas laws on this.



Real ID to vote. If it's a national security issue at the airport it should be a national security issue at the ballot box.


Real ID doesn't prove citizenship, only legal status
Maroon Dawn
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The trick with illegals is not illegally getting them to show up to vote but to illegally get them into the registry

Once they're in, they can then generate a mail in ballot collected by Dem ballot mules. It won't be filled out in the name of the illegal but with a list of legally registered non-voters ERIC has provided them. Then they can wait for the GOP vote to come in day of and see how many votes like these they need to "find" over the extra week extension period they give themselves
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