Looks Like Keir Starmer Is Out

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Infection_Ag11
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That tweet doesnt mean what you think it means
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Gaeilge said:



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JUST IN: UK PM Keir Starmer reportedly PREPARING TO RESIGN after devastating election results

Make it happen!

Keir WON'T be missed

"Sir Keir Starmer looks set to resign as Prime Minister in this coming week."

"Journalist Dan Hodges has reported that a Cabinet Minister has informed him that: 'they believe Keir Starmer will announce he's standing down this week without the need for a contest.' He goes on to say that this is the first time he's heard this directly from a Cabinet Minister."


The one behind him is 100x worse, but it will be short lived. The Labour Party is being absolutely destroyed right now and there doesn't appear to be a way to correct the ship.

This is correcting the ship.
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Now get rid of all the star wars names in politics
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Every time I see his name I think Germany.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

That tweet doesnt mean what you think it means


Please, enlighten us all knowing individual of UK politics…
Gaeilge
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Meant Labour's ship.
Infection_Ag11
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One, that tweet was showing SEATS, not votes.

Two, much of the ground made up by Reform was at the expense of other conservative parties.

Three, much of Labor's losses were split between the Greens and the Lib Dems.

TLDR: The idea that all the Labor voters are just switching to Reform is very wrong. Reform is gaining a lot of support on the basis that many conservatives view other conservative parties as too soft on immigration.
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And based on observable evidence, they would be right
nortex97
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These were local elections, not parliament.

But, Labour absolutely lost a ton of voters, and it's not real hard to argue many switched to reform. Labor MP's have a big group that came out this weekend (I think 30 or so) demanding Starmer step down. Ending a 72-year run of running Wales I think is just a big red flag heading toward 2027 cycle there, but I don't follow their politics much tbf. Headlines about dramatic overnight changes in actual governance in Europe are usually wrong, imho.
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Buh-Bye!
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infinity ag said:

The Labor Party (akin to the Dems in the US) are pro immigrants and pro illegals as they create a new votebank. UK Labor party has brought in Muslims in boatloads who are now going around committing crime and raping women.

People seem to be fed up. They need a Trumpesque leader to weed these terrorists out.

Unfortunately they'll never have a Trumpesque leader. They're too far lost. The entire British mindset that made them a world power for centuries is gone.
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Squadron7 said:

infinity ag said:

The Labor Party (akin to the Dems in the US) are pro immigrants and pro illegals as they create a new votebank. UK Labor party has brought in Muslims in boatloads who are now going around committing crime and raping women.

People seem to be fed up. They need a Trumpesque leader to weed these terrorists out.


Wait until Labor figures out that Muslims will vote Muslim, Labor or not.


Labor will put up Muslim candidates.

I have relatives in Canada and in their area it is always the same Muslim woman.
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Labor to Reform is a HUGE leap in the UK. Just sayin'.
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YokelRidesAgain said:

CheeseSndwch said:

Ginormus Ag said:

Oh boy! I am going to be in London July 1-7.

Being in London on July 4th is certainly a choice.

Make America Great (Britain) Again

WTF? Hard pass.
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Ginormus Ag said:

Oh boy! I am going to be in London July 1-7.


That sounds like fun! Report back on the celebration. Please include pictures of the fireworks show!
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Different day, same story: pasty white woke dullard liberal gets elected, destroys everything, and leaves in disgrace.
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LOYAL AG said:

Ginormus Ag said:

Oh boy! I am going to be in London July 1-7.


That sounds like fun! Report back on the celebration. Please include pictures of the fireworks show!

Make sure and wear a stab-protective vest under your shirt/clothes, just in case you are threatened with cultural enrichment.
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Make England Great Again (MEGA)
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Reading UK election results is somewhat like reading Tolkien's battle scenes"
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Reading UK election results is somewhat like reading Tolkien's battle scenes"

LOL. Too true.
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The UK has some real issues with economic growth and investment outside of London. They need to revitalize other parts of the country to give opportunities to young workers. The problem is who the heck wants to invest there? They have the same issues the USA has with crime and social unrest and arguably a worse looming problem with retiree entitlements.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

He's not "extremely moderate" compared to anyone. He may not be the most radical leftist, but he's a radical leftist nonetheless.

**** him. He's an America-hating piece of *****

I don't think you realize how different the political mainstream is in the UK compared to the US. He is to the current Labor party what someone like Suzan DelBene is to the current Democrat party.

Starmer is WIDELY attacked by his base as being too moderate and centrist. A big reason Labor lost seats is because of people voting for the far more left wing Green party. The average Labor voter views mainstream American democrats as conservatives, and the average Tory voter is left wing by the standards of the average American conservative.

For reference, 90% of self identified conservatives in the UK support abortion in some capacity. There is such a consensus there amongst all the parties that it is regarded as a settled issue politically. There is no controversy whatsoever about it. That's how vast the chasm between the two nations is.

I am an American, what matters to me in global politics is where various political figures are in respect to American ideological positions. From the American perspective, he is a radical leftist and must be treated as such. I don't care if the average street Brit thinks he's a moderate.
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Logos Stick said:

Different day, same story: pasty white woke dullard liberal gets elected, destroys everything, and leaves in disgrace.


Sadly this.

The Brits have lost their spine. They are reduced to a bunch of effete woke virtue-signaling people-pleasing bumbling goofs.

Their go-to move is a reflexive "We love Muslims, we will fight for them to stay and more to come in"

The Brit Conservatives are not strong enough either.
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AlexNguyen said:

The UK has some real issues with economic growth and investment outside of London. They need to revitalize other parts of the country to give opportunities to young workers. The problem is who the heck wants to invest there? They have the same issues the USA has with crime and social unrest and arguably a worse looming problem with retiree entitlements.

A very large percentage of their employment base is government related in some way, not private enterprise.

Upward mobility isn't really possible for many. Brits also have this weird mindset where having success is not to be talked about. They consider it bragging and distasteful.

Further, their education system largely sucks, keeping their population ignorant of the rest of the world. We have dumb college students in Gen Z. UK has dumb 50 and 60 years old.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

He's a terrible leader.


He's been doing exactly what his handles have instructed him to do.
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Gaeilge said:



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JUST IN: UK PM Keir Starmer reportedly PREPARING TO RESIGN after devastating election results

Make it happen!

Keir WON'T be missed

"Sir Keir Starmer looks set to resign as Prime Minister in this coming week."

"Journalist Dan Hodges has reported that a Cabinet Minister has informed him that: 'they believe Keir Starmer will announce he's standing down this week without the need for a contest.' He goes on to say that this is the first time he's heard this directly from a Cabinet Minister."


The one behind him is 100x worse, but it will be short lived. The Labour Party is being absolutely destroyed right now and there doesn't appear to be a way to correct the ship.

I don't see this happening. I live in Spain and receive a lot of news from all channels and different podcasts about the disastrous election results for Labour. Starmer is doubling down at the moment, contending that his resignation and a "regime change" in the Labour party would be chaotic for the country. He's an idiot. His "leadership" and the dumb ass policies of the Labour party have done nothing but worsen the plight of ordinary people in the UK. It's like I'm reliving the Biden administration every day. Angela Rayner (a tax evader and trashy ass human being) and Andy Burnham (the major of Manchester), otherwise known as the King of the North, seem to be the most viable candidates. Trust me. The pool of candidates is SO awful that it reminds me of the Democratic Party's offerings for president. It's truly THAT bad. I predict Burnham will eventually win the lottery (with Rayner's support), but Starmer ain't going anywhere anytime soon. It is believed that whoever is chosen to replace him with pull the Labour party further left.
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CheeseSndwch said:

Ginormus Ag said:

Oh boy! I am going to be in London July 1-7.

Being in London on July 4th is certainly a choice.
a great one. You get to spend the day walking around yelling "scoreboard!" At whoever you want.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

He's moderate compared to those poised to take his place within the party. For perspective, Starmer is in most ways a run of the mill modern American democrat. In a country where the Overton window is much further to the left than it is here he's very milk toast.

Getting rid of him will only push the country further to the left and exacerbate the issues that led to his resignation.

Perhaps the Overton Window was not as far left as Labour thought.
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Ginormus Ag said:

Oh boy! I am going to be in London July 1-7.

Be sure to congratulate them on July 3rd - Dependence Day.
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aggiehawg said:

AlexNguyen said:

The UK has some real issues with economic growth and investment outside of London. They need to revitalize other parts of the country to give opportunities to young workers. The problem is who the heck wants to invest there? They have the same issues the USA has with crime and social unrest and arguably a worse looming problem with retiree entitlements.

A very large percentage of their employment base is government related in some way, not private enterprise.

Upward mobility isn't really possible for many. Brits also have this weird mindset where having success is not to be talked about. They consider it bragging and distasteful.

Further, their education system largely sucks, keeping their population ignorant of the rest of the world. We have dumb college students in Gen Z. UK has dumb 50 and 60 years old.


Some recent study came out and placed the UK's GDP below all 50 US states. So UK produces less economic activity than the likes of Mississippi or New Mexico. Funny enough a few YouTube videos had the interviewer casually asking Britons where they thought they would rank and more than a few thought the UK would be around the 5-7 most powerful out of the 51.

Brits still cling to their sense of empire and grandeur despite long have given away what gave them their 200 years of greatness (nameless a powerful military and numerous colonies to exploit raw materials and favorable taxation/mercantile policies).

Sadly I don't think Americans understand they are on the same path unless things change in a hurry.
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Political correctness is a BIG problem in the Western world, especially for Caucasians/White people.

Most people are deathly afraid of being called out as racists and getting tarred and feathered online. And canceled. So they'd rather save their skins by playing safe and saying they "are for (legal) immigration", and "we want good people from other countries" and "we are a nation of immigrants".

I am yet to meet someone in a position of power who has the guts to say "we have enough immigrants, we don't need more". Or "if the people coming in are that good, they should be able to turn their own countries into superpowers, I don't see that". And "we may be a nation of immigrants, but that does not mean immigrants can just walk in and have a right to anything".

Trump is the closest to this in the US.

There is no one in the UK who has to the guts to call out Muslim gangs and to save their careers, they continue to say nice things and defend these degenerates.
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TexasAggie81 said:

Gaeilge said:



Quote:

JUST IN: UK PM Keir Starmer reportedly PREPARING TO RESIGN after devastating election results

Make it happen!

Keir WON'T be missed

"Sir Keir Starmer looks set to resign as Prime Minister in this coming week."

"Journalist Dan Hodges has reported that a Cabinet Minister has informed him that: 'they believe Keir Starmer will announce he's standing down this week without the need for a contest.' He goes on to say that this is the first time he's heard this directly from a Cabinet Minister."


The one behind him is 100x worse, but it will be short lived. The Labour Party is being absolutely destroyed right now and there doesn't appear to be a way to correct the ship.

I don't see this happening. I live in Spain and receive a lot of news from all channels and different podcasts about the disastrous election results for Labour. Starmer is doubling down at the moment, contending that his resignation and a "regime change" in the Labour party would be chaotic for the country. He's an idiot. His "leadership" and the dumb ass policies of the Labour party have done nothing but worsen the plight of ordinary people in the UK. It's like I'm reliving the Biden administration every day. Angela Rayner (a tax evader and trashy ass human being) and Andy Burnham (the major of Manchester), otherwise known as the King of the North, seem to be the most viable candidates. Trust me. The pool of candidates is SO awful that it reminds me of the Democratic Party's offerings for president. It's truly THAT bad. I predict Burnham will eventually win the lottery (with Rayner's support), but Starmer ain't going anywhere anytime soon. It is believed that whoever is chosen to replace him with pull the Labour party further left.
You wrote "ass" and it wasn't censored. Lol
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AlexNguyen said:

aggiehawg said:

AlexNguyen said:

The UK has some real issues with economic growth and investment outside of London. They need to revitalize other parts of the country to give opportunities to young workers. The problem is who the heck wants to invest there? They have the same issues the USA has with crime and social unrest and arguably a worse looming problem with retiree entitlements.

A very large percentage of their employment base is government related in some way, not private enterprise.

Upward mobility isn't really possible for many. Brits also have this weird mindset where having success is not to be talked about. They consider it bragging and distasteful.

Further, their education system largely sucks, keeping their population ignorant of the rest of the world. We have dumb college students in Gen Z. UK has dumb 50 and 60 years old.


Some recent study came out and placed the UK's GDP below all 50 US states. So UK produces less economic activity than the likes of Mississippi or New Mexico. Funny enough a few YouTube videos had the interviewer casually asking Britons where they thought they would rank and more than a few thought the UK would be around the 5-7 most powerful out of the 51.

Brits still cling to their sense of empire and grandeur despite long have given away what gave them their 200 years of greatness (nameless a powerful military and numerous colonies to exploit raw materials and favorable taxation/mercantile policies).

Sadly I don't think Americans understand they are on the same path unless things change in a hurry.


Good point.

Here in the US suffer from exactly the same thing. We think that since the US is the super power and "rich", it will last forever and we don't need to do anything to maintain the greatness. Even a car needs a periodic oil change (EVs exempt) but we think we can abuse USA and that it will not collapse because... you know....we 'Muricans.

No other country is as dopey as we are on immigration and jobs. I am shocked about how lackadaisical we are on this important topic and we waste time on useless ones like abortion, pronouns and Epstein. We are in bigger trouble than these issues.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

He's a terrible leader.

Flagged inappropriate use of the word "leader". Like Biden, he was no leader. He actually failed miserable at being a stooge for others. Thats how bad they are. But they are not leaders.
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Some recent study came out and placed the UK's GDP below all 50 US states. So UK produces less economic activity than the likes of Mississippi or New Mexico. Funny enough a few YouTube videos had the interviewer casually asking Britons where they thought they would rank and more than a few thought the UK would be around the 5-7 most powerful out of the 51.

Brits still cling to their sense of empire and grandeur despite long have given away what gave them their 200 years of greatness (nameless a powerful military and numerous colonies to exploit raw materials and favorable taxation/mercantile policies).

Sadly I don't think Americans understand they are on the same path unless things change in a hurry.

Not ready to hit the panic button quite yet. American work ethic, entrepreneurial spirit, celebrating others' successes and strong private sector are not going away anytime soon. We just are not wired the same way Brits are.

We are seeing that in NYC. Mamdani goes further left, billionaires leave and go south.
 
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