What's going with the water in Corpus Christi

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B-1 83 said:

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nortex97 said:

This Israeli company is going to build one somewhere in the RGV also. (Presumably, if it's desalinization near Corpus.)


I saw the city manager of Corpus last night talking about how this has been an issue they've been working on for years now, not wanting to affect the industry (I take it, "the companies are giving the city and state money") side of things while trying to make sure locals weren't affected.

There were people in Corpus whom they interviewed, one who was talking about not wanting to have to deal with water restrictions that they didn't cause. She said they were told that only being able to bathe every other day might be required. That's bizarre.

It makes one wonder if the people who brought the ExxonMobil and SABIC joint venture for Abbott to approve didn't do their due diligence to make sure the water needs wouldn't be a problem. That, or even if they did bring up the potential problems, it was far in the future and the money was more immediate and more important.



That's a common practice in water shortages though. Just a next step in managing water. Whole host of other practices in addition to that. We haven't been able to water our lawns, wash cars, or fill pools since 2024, already. Granted, some people still do so but will likely get fined for it.

We had the city call us once and threaten us with a $500 fine because our sprinklers were running early in the morning one day a week. I had turned them on to test something and forgot to turn them back off. That was a few months ago now. I still see dumbasses watering their lawns mid-day down here. They should get fined for not only breaking the restrictions but also for just being stupid to run sprinklers mid-day regardless of water shortages.

I'm with you on the fining of idiots who think they can skirt things.

I just feel for them because this shortage could have been averted, or at least wouldn't have happened, had the companies not come in. At least that's what I've seen/heard from people in the know down there.

Good luck to all in the area. I hope this is fixed sooner rather than later.

I "skirt" their rules by using a drip hose AND TIMER on my foundation. We can water flowerbeds and our foundations on our garbage pickup day every other week, and I can guarantee I'm more efficient than standing there with a spray nozzle squirting my foundation like the city specifies. If they go one more step in restrictions, I may have to pull all of that up so I don't get accused.

Good man. I'd be doing the same.
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No help to L. Corpus or Choke from yesterday's rains. Some slight elevations upstream but not gonna move the needle at the lakes much, if at all

We'll see what happens the rest of the week
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schmellba99 said:

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Lola68 said:

I'm referring to all of the protests to the selling of groundwater to Corpus. There was unsubstantiated allegations made by the proponents of dsal that has been picked up by the surrounding towns (Sinton) that somehow Corpus' use of groundwater would harm other users. This is not what the actual evidence suggests.

Ehh, it depends on what you call harm, the volume of water, etc.

Subsidence is a real thing, and along the coast when the land subsides it doesn't come back up. We don't have rock formations that support the land like the hill country does, so when the aquifer is drawn down the land actually sinks and once that happens, it's a done deal.

Now, the speed of the subsidence can be controlled if the aquifer isn't pumped faster than it can recharge. You can also end up with a subsidence district, which is just another level of government to deal with.

I think Houston is the fastest sinking city right now. Keep in mind that is a relative term. I can tell you that it is a real problem in the Phoenix region. Luke AFB has sank over 20 feet since it first started operations back in the early 1900's. That's a lot.

Lola68 is exactly correct in the description of the campaigning against groundwater.

Subsidence was a problem in Houston because of unregulated pumping and wellfield density. The Evangeline well field is significantly much less dense.


Exactly right. Subsidence in Harris and Galveston Counties was a huge problem from the 1940s to the early 1980s. The City of Houston water supply was almost entirely from groundwater, and there were a massive number of large wells along the ship channel and in the refineries that pumped 24/7. The Subsidence District was formed in the mid 70s to deal with the problem and now the city water supply is primarily treated surface water, and most of the big industrial wells along the ship channel have either been abandoned and plugged, or are heavily restricted as to how much can be pumped out of the ground. Water levels have actually come back up in some areas of central Harris County and areas east of town, but the land elevation never recovers.

Now the larger areas of concern are in west and northwest Harris County, and northern Fort Bend County where the rapid growth has occurred over the past 20 years.

Exactly what I said - it doesn't recover because the subsurface geology doesn't have the rigid support formations that you find as you approach the hill country.

The Evangeline Aquifer is part of the overall Gulf Coast Aquifer, without regulated groundwater pumping and good management, subsidence will happen. It will likely happen regardless, but the Evangeline is mostly confined sands and has better bearing capacity than the Chicote above it does.

Harris, Galveston, Wharton, etc. mostly pull from the Chicote aquifer, which is unconfined clays for the most part - pull the water out, the land sinks, sometimes fast.


Ahh yes, remember the Brownwood subdivision in Baytown

Affluent waterfront subdivision built in the 1940s

Sank into the bay. Literally.
 
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