SAIP but I haven't seen this so far.

Political ads are increasing in frequency now and the primary is coming up so I want to get some opinions on the challengers to Cornyn.

I'm sick of Cornyn and Wall Street Crenshaw is my US Rep (easy to vote for Toth in this primary) so I have no intention of voting for either of them in the primary. I'll vote for the Republican in the general no matter who it is.

My question is how to choose between Paxton and Hunt in the primary and who can definitively defeat the commies. As politicians their positions seem similar and they're both conservative enough for me. Paxton is definitely a fighter and I like that, but I'm concerned about his chances in the general due to his baggage. He'd be my first choice and there would be no question if it was Paxton v Cornyn. The polls are pretty close between them with Cornyn in a nice 3rd place so we may be able to move on from him. I'd still take him over any commie so no need to go there.

What are y'alls thoughts on Paxton v Hunt?

I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn. Will vote for Hunt in the primary if I had to decide today, but am ok with Paxton as a hold my nose vote.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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So if you you'd rather have Talarico/Crockett than Cornyn?

Agreed, I like Paxton because of all of this and I think he's been a great fighter for the good guys.

But the baggage and the corrupt media can't be ignored so that's why I'm looking for some more input. If it goes to a runoff between Paxton and Hunt that will be a real problem, but I'd happily support either in the general.

Not very Tea Party of you. Did you forget who the opposition is?

Fight to win.

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I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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So if you you'd rather have Talarico/Crockett than Cornyn?

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I'd rather conservatives not vote for Cornyn in the primary.

But if you force my hand, then yes I am willing to suffer through a short term cycle of D's in power until conservatives realize they made a poor choice with their primary vote, again.

Though even with me abstaining or voting third party, I believe there are too many "R no matter what" voters that we could run McCain 2.0 and he would "win".

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Not very Tea Party of you. Did you forget who the opposition is?

Fight to win.

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This is exactly what Tea Party is. And it's not a win if the status quo with Cornyn is the result.

Voting for the establishment incumbent Cornyn in the primary, or the general, is the polar opposite of what Tea Party would do.

Disagree on this (EDIT - other than not voting Cornyn in the primary, or course I won't do that). I dislike Cornyn as much as you do but I won't throw away or abstain from voting against a democrat in such a critical situation.

The commies have the long march strategy and realize their takeover won't be done in one election cycle. They've been at it for decades, and you see the results around our country now.

Sometimes one vote can be the difference like traitor McCain upholding Obamacare. We don't know how all the other states will turn out, we do know that off year elections tend to favor the party not in power. If there are enough people with your attitude then we may end up being the state with that one vote that changes things in a really bad way.

Like I said, fight to win. Destroy the opponent, because that's what they're trying to do to us.

Just remember if a democrat holds a senate seat the blue slip system effectively shuts down appointing conservative judges.

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Just remember if a democrat holds a senate seat the blue slip system effectively shuts down appointing conservative judges.

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Only because of weak sauce GOP.

Is there a run-off if nobody breaks 50
Is there any way Paxton or Hunt can win it without a runoff ?

Your premise assumes Hunt/Paxton cannot win the general.

My premise is if enough "R no matter what" voters started to vote for someone other than the incumbent in the primary, when the incumbent has shown to be far from advertised, then your premise becomes moot and Rs can win the general with a chance at a better outcome than the status quo.

If incumbent Rs aren't doing anything with their power when they have the majority then it's a waste of a pendulum swing. More people need to realize this and stop using the same playbook vs the same fears when that plan has failed them several times in the past.

Paxton

Or Hunt

They all have off the field issues. But Cornyn's cronies are throwing everything they can think of at Paxton right now- at least in my area. Paxton has a good record for conservatives. I know less of Hunt but he will be hit next for all of his missed votes. They started setting that up yesterday. For me it will be Paxton first, then Hunt. Cornyn can take a hike.

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Your premise assumes Hunt/Paxton cannot win the general.

My premise is if enough "R no matter what" voters started to vote for someone other than the incumbent in the primary, when the incumbent has shown to be far from advertised, then your premise becomes moot and Rs can win the general with a chance at a better outcome than the status quo.

If incumbent Rs aren't doing anything with their power when they have the majority then it's a waste of a pendulum swing. More people need to realize this and stop using the same playbook vs the same fears when that plan has failed them several times in the past.

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I'm not assuming that either of them can't win the general but I can see how it came off that way. My bad.

I'll be voting against both incumbents in the primary. If I have to, I'll vote for them in the general just because I think the risk of a commie winning is too great. I agree we have not taken advantage of the pendulum swing that we have now and it will probably bite us in the ass.

I suppose I'm guilty of R no matter what, but that's only because I consider these filthy leftists the threat that they are. Not because I agree with the incumbents and lack of spine they've shown. I'm sick of the status quo too.

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Not very Tea Party of you. Did you forget who the opposition is?

Fight to win.

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This is exactly what Tea Party is. And it's not a win if the status quo with Cornyn is the result.

Voting for the establishment incumbent Cornyn in the primary, or the general, is the polar opposite of what Tea Party would do.

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I'll vote for any republican but a Democrat in the general. Democrats are trash. The worst republican is always better than the best Democrat.

Cornyn is part of the swamp. A Romney republican.

John Wayne McCornyn shows up in Texas every 6 years when running for reelection. I like both Paxton and Hunt but am supporting Paxton. While he has personal baggage, he has a long track record of doing the right thing as AG for the interests of Texas. I like Hunt as well but his track record is not as established. I'm good with either.

I'll never vote for a Dim but have undervoted on RINOs in the past (George P Bush). I wanted to undervote on Cornyn last time but the polls (who believes them) showed it as a close race so held my nose.

I have Paxton #1, Hunt #2, and reluctantly Cornyn #3 in the general against Crockett or Talarico.

On a side note, I've been a proponent of trading Cornyn to Louisiana for Kennedy. Kennedy at least has a sense of humor and Cornyn more closely aligns with Cassidy

When is the primary?

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Is there a run-off if nobody breaks 50
Is there any way Paxton or Hunt can win it without a runoff ?

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Yes if no one breaks 50+1 then there will be a run off. The odds of any candidate getting over 50% is very slim. Cornyn as the incumbent has a very best (very small) chance because he is the incumbent

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Not very Tea Party of you. Did you forget who the opposition is?

Fight to win.

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This is exactly what Tea Party is. And it's not a win if the status quo with Cornyn is the result.

Voting for the establishment incumbent Cornyn in the primary, or the general, is the polar opposite of what Tea Party would do.

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I don't care for Cornyn at all, and will vote for one of the other two in the primary, but any of those 3 are far better than the alternative. I will hold my nose and vote for him in the general because the alternative is cutting off my nose to spite my face.

Paxton is by far the #1 candidate. He's the most conservative, a fighter, and effective. Hunt is basically Cornyn-lite without the baggage, but milquetoast.

I'm planning to vote for Hunt in the primary, but might flip to Paxton if he is still leading by the time I vote. Basically, any Republican but Cornyn.

That said, why do you have a negative impression of Hunt? Just curious, I haven't seen that take/info yet.

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I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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So if you you'd rather have Talarico/Crockett than Cornyn?

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I'd rather conservatives not vote for Cornyn in the primary.

But if you force my hand, then yes I am willing to suffer through a short term cycle of D's in power until conservatives realize they made a poor choice with their primary vote, again.

Though even with me abstaining or voting third party, I believe there are too many "R no matter what" voters that we could run McCain 2.0 and he would "win".

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I hate to break this to you, but if Talarico or Crockett win the seat, they will be in it for 30 years. Senate seats are very hard to turn over.

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I hate to break this to you, but if Hunt/Paxton win the seat, they will be in it for 30 years. Senate seats are very hard to turn over.

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I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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So if you you'd rather have Talarico/Crockett than Cornyn?

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I'd rather conservatives not vote for Cornyn in the primary.

But if you force my hand, then yes I am willing to suffer through a short term cycle of D's in power until conservatives realize they made a poor choice with their primary vote, again.

Though even with me abstaining or voting third party, I believe there are too many "R no matter what" voters that we could run McCain 2.0 and he would "win".

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I hate to break this to you, but if Talarico or Crockett win the seat, they will be in it for 30 years. Senate seats are very hard to turn over.

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I hate to break this to you, but if Hunt/Paxton win the seat, they will be in it for 30 years. Senate seats are very hard to turn over.

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I'm not the one who said "But if you force my hand, then yes I am willing to suffer through a short term cycle of D's in power ". You were willing to abstain or vote 3rd party. Thats cutting your nose off to spite your face.

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I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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So if you you'd rather have Talarico/Crockett than Cornyn?

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I'd rather conservatives not vote for Cornyn in the primary.

But if you force my hand, then yes I am willing to suffer through a short term cycle of D's in power until conservatives realize they made a poor choice with their primary vote, again.

Though even with me abstaining or voting third party, I believe there are too many "R no matter what" voters that we could run McCain 2.0 and he would "win".

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I hate to break this to you, but if Talarico or Crockett win the seat, they will be in it for 30 years. Senate seats are very hard to turn over.

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I hate to break this to you, but if Hunt/Paxton win the seat, they will be in it for 30 years. Senate seats are very hard to turn over.

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I'm not the one who said "But if you force my hand, then yes I am willing to suffer through a short term cycle of D's in power ". You were willing to abstain or vote 3rd party. Thats cutting your nose off to spite your face.

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It's seeing the big picture and not going along with the same bad solutions that has been done in the past, in the hopes that the large block of "R incumbent no matter what" voters in the primary start to self-correct.

If Cornyn does win the primary, ideally he wins the general but with such low turnout that the naive/fearful "R incumbent no matter what" voters in the primary start to realize that they backed a bad candidate and caused a lot of their R peers to stay home in the general. Long term win hopefully, but likely just reinforcing my point that the naive/fearful voters would give us McCain 2.0 if that was the choice.

Though if Cornyn loses in the general with low turnout on both sides, then hopefully the "R incumbent no matter what" voters realize that their bad choice in the primary caused enough of their R peer voters to stay home which cost them the general. Long term win.

Lastly, if Cornyn loses in the general with large commie vote turnout, then the commie vote turnout is the bigger issue, not the commie themself. Advocating for the status quo is not going to fix this issue.

I think Paxton would be the best senator. But the biggest concern is who do you think will win the general. I'm no fan of Cornyn at all but will prob vote for him for this reason. Power of the incumbency is real.

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I'm not a fan of Hunt, but he's preferable to Cornyn. Will vote for Hunt in the primary if I had to decide today, but am ok with Paxton as a hold my nose vote.

In the general, I will abstain or vote third party if the rest of the Texas "conservatives" give Cornyn the primary win. People need to quit enabling the status quo.

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Jesus this is stupid! You're not teaching anyone a lesson; you're enabling a leftist to win. I've never understood how any conservative can ever come to this conclusion. You're being incredibly shortsighted and not proving any point at all.