aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
FloridaAgg said:
Might want to plug that plot in chatgpt for analysis.
We don't know. It clearly wasn't Joe Biden. His brain was scrambled eggs.Concerned Moderate Ag said:
Who was president in 2024?
Concerned Moderate Ag said:
It's only 7am but I'm pretty sure this thread is the biggest swing and a miss I'll see all day.
Gilligan said:Concerned Moderate Ag said:
It's only 7am but I'm pretty sure this thread is the biggest swing and a miss I'll see all day.
A rational mind would look at that and understand that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
The gist is that the current "Orange Bad Man" policies and actions are making a dent in fentanyl deaths. Do you disagree even though it's only 0715?
txags92 said:aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
Unless those year markers are showing end of the year instead of the beginning, that drop started a year before Trump took office in January 2025.
FCBlitz said:txags92 said:aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
Unless those year markers are showing end of the year instead of the beginning, that drop started a year before Trump took office in January 2025.
What a pathetic attempt to poop on good news. If you can't accept that there was fentanyl pouring in at the same time as the open border doesn't correlate, followed by the correlation of the blockade to cut the supply off then are so brainwashed it is sad.
Let's see.
Supply high equals death count high. Check
Supply is cut to near zero the death count drastically drop. Check.
…but go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.
Concerned Moderate Ag said:Gilligan said:Concerned Moderate Ag said:
It's only 7am but I'm pretty sure this thread is the biggest swing and a miss I'll see all day.
A rational mind would look at that and understand that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
The gist is that the current "Orange Bad Man" policies and actions are making a dent in fentanyl deaths. Do you disagree even though it's only 0715?
I'm saying the orange man's policies for the second term aren't even reflected on this graph, so trying to make it about him at all is pointless.
Gilligan said:Concerned Moderate Ag said:Gilligan said:Concerned Moderate Ag said:
It's only 7am but I'm pretty sure this thread is the biggest swing and a miss I'll see all day.
A rational mind would look at that and understand that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
The gist is that the current "Orange Bad Man" policies and actions are making a dent in fentanyl deaths. Do you disagree even though it's only 0715?
I'm saying the orange man's policies for the second term aren't even reflected on this graph, so trying to make it about him at all is pointless.
It's not pointless because there's apparently been a drastic decrease since Biden left office for whatever combination of reasons. Something / someone gets credit for the drop.
The math isn't hard even this early in the morning. ...and I'm only on my first cup of coffee after a 5k run.
Independence H-D said:
Probably had something to do with widespread distribution and use of narcan. Then, continued by border security and interdiction efforts.
Concerned Moderate Ag said:FCBlitz said:txags92 said:aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
Unless those year markers are showing end of the year instead of the beginning, that drop started a year before Trump took office in January 2025.
What a pathetic attempt to poop on good news. If you can't accept that there was fentanyl pouring in at the same time as the open border doesn't correlate, followed by the correlation of the blockade to cut the supply off then are so brainwashed it is sad.
Let's see.
Supply high equals death count high. Check
Supply is cut to near zero the death count drastically drop. Check.
…but go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.
Well, he's pointing out that unless the graph was made in a way that no graph has ever been made before, the timeline of the red box is wrong, unless Biden shut down the border in his last year as president, which I don't think happened.
That's how you're wrong.
FCBlitz said:txags92 said:aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
Unless those year markers are showing end of the year instead of the beginning, that drop started a year before Trump took office in January 2025.
What a pathetic attempt to poop on good news. If you can't accept that there was fentanyl pouring in at the same time as the open border doesn't correlate, followed by the correlation of the blockade to cut the supply off then are so brainwashed it is sad.
Let's see.
Supply high equals death count high. Check
Supply is cut to near zero the death count drastically drop. Check.
…but go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.
Kansas Kid said:
I'm surprised the chart doesn't highlight the start of the spike in 2017. Deaths increased around 3 fold from then until the first red line.
I'm glad to see the death rate drop but the sharp increase started before 2021 or COVID.
agsalaska said:Kansas Kid said:
I'm surprised the chart doesn't highlight the start of the spike in 2017. Deaths increased around 3 fold from then until the first red line.
I'm glad to see the death rate drop but the sharp increase started before 2021 or COVID.
You do realize that the OP did not provide a source correct?
Concerned Moderate Ag said:
Who was president in 2024?
txags92 said:FCBlitz said:txags92 said:aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
Unless those year markers are showing end of the year instead of the beginning, that drop started a year before Trump took office in January 2025.
What a pathetic attempt to poop on good news. If you can't accept that there was fentanyl pouring in at the same time as the open border doesn't correlate, followed by the correlation of the blockade to cut the supply off then are so brainwashed it is sad.
Let's see.
Supply high equals death count high. Check
Supply is cut to near zero the death count drastically drop. Check.
…but go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.
What a pathetic misunderstanding of the point of my post. This is obviously great news. But to claim it as the result of actions by the Trump administration as the OP did is intellectually dishonest, since the "closing the border" line shown on the graph appears alongside a large drop in deaths that occurred in 2024, a year before Trump took office.
FCBlitz said:txags92 said:aggie93 said:
The actions of the Trump administration have literally saved thousands of American lives every month. Absolutely fantastic news.
Unless those year markers are showing end of the year instead of the beginning, that drop started a year before Trump took office in January 2025.
What a pathetic attempt to poop on good news. If you can't accept that there was fentanyl pouring in at the same time as the open border doesn't correlate, followed by the correlation of the blockade to cut the supply off then are so brainwashed it is sad.
Let's see.
Supply high equals death count high. Check
Supply is cut to near zero the death count drastically drop. Check.
…but go ahead and tell me how wrong nm
BadMoonRisin said:
A lot to say about this chart apart from the intended Microsoft paint direction, though it does drop off pretty quickly after Biden left and the border was secured.
Look at what happened to drug deaths slightly after 2020. What is that hockey-stick upward? What was going on then?
The COVID19 Scamdemic.
People had their worlds turned upside down, lost their jobs, their vehicles, their houses, their businesses. The government said it was OK to go to Costco or HEB or Target, but everyone else had to shut down and shut the f up.
All for a weak ass cold virus.
