Carney Is Feeling The Heat In Canada

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Rapier108
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Carney is now the latest media darling.

NYT: Mark Carney Takes On Donald Trump and Emerges as a Global Political Star
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

Carney is now the latest media darling.

NYT: Mark Carney Takes On Donald Trump and Emerges as a Global Political Star

That's how you know he's dead ass wrong.
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Tim Horton's must put lead in their donuts and coffee....Canada is populated by ******s.
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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Rapier108 said:

Carney is now the latest media darling.

NYT: Mark Carney Takes On Donald Trump and Emerges as a Global Political Star


That's not how this works!! 1/2 his country is literally trying to find a way to leave and join the US.
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Grapes said:

nortex97 said:

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China is our second-largest trading partner

Canada is China's 17th largest trade partner. Doubt China consider Canada is anything but a way to sneak spies into the US.
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A pragmatic and constructive relationship between our nations will create greater stability, security, and prosperity on both sides of the Pacific.

Only a colossal idiot thinks China will have a pragmatic and constructive relationship with their nation. China will offer ZERO stability, security and prosperity to anyone both themselves.

Clown running a clown country.

Carney has long been a Chinese stooge, really nothing more than a puppet, something I'd like to think Trump's team has been well aware of.
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OTTAWA, Canada A review of corporate documents reveals that Brookfieldthe influential $900 billion Canadian investment fund from which Liberal Prime Minister-to-be Mark Carney stepped away from in order to replace Justin Trudeau as Canada's leadermaintains over $3 billion in politically sensitive investments with Chinese state-linked real estate and energy companies, along with a substantial offshore banking presence. One of its major real estate ventures, a $750 million entry into high-end Shanghai commercial property in 2013, involved a Hong Kong tycoon affiliated with the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC)which the CIA labels a central "united front" entity of Beijing.

That one above is paid but note the Canadians knew all of this when they voted for him.
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On September 9, 2024, former prime minister Justin Trudeau named Carneythe chair of a task force on economic growth.

The following month, Carney met with the deputy director of the People's Bank of China, according to Poilievre and a Chinese-language news article he cited in his post. Then, a few weeks later, Brookfield allegedly secured a $250 million loan from a Chinese state-owned bank.

The Conservatives previously demanded that Carney reveal his Brookfield stock options to Canadians, accusing the Liberal leader of raking in millions from his past business.

Carney subsequently admitted to potential conflicts of interest, saying that he would "probably" have to recuse himself from decisions on some files.

Imagine if Trump had been campaigning for office and it was publicly known he had Chinese stock investments and owed a CCP bank a quarter billion dollars. The hilarity of the news coverage is more than my feeble mind can even envision.


I'd argue that the average Canadian did not know or understand all this when voting for Carney. Unless you live and are immersed within the controlled media, it is impossible to understand how curated the political information is there.

Similar to the US in the past before people started waking up in by the millions. Just far more pervasive.

Honestly, I have very smart friends and family members that in most aspects of their lives seem to be thoughtful, common sense, "conservatives", like most Texans I know. Then come politics and it's like they're schizo. Critical thought is non existent.

Covid, Trudeau reelections, Carney, climate change, our economy being destroyed, the insane rising cost of living, the fact kids have no hope for home ownership, exponential rise in crime and drug use, tent cities…

Somehow, these successful, "normal" folks just can't see or acknowledge these disasters. The ONLY thing I can come up with is our elections are not legit and/or the population is continually gaslit on an epic scale.




Have to remember that for a supposedly "free" Western country, Canada has a government media monopoly along the lines of North Korea.

It would be like if the government ;officially) owned CNN and the NYT and gave them near total monopolies to distribute news. Who would even wonder if all the normies were completely brainwashed and no one knew that Carney is a bought puppet of China
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nortex97 said:

I think Carney is mainly interested in Brookfield while there, not Canada.

Bruce and his lieutenants have always been POSs.
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nortex97 said:


LOL, that's my President.

Governor Carney ...

The guy is in so far over his head it's ridiculous. Risking 80% of his exports with a next door neighbor for increasing the 5% he has with the country all the way across the Pacific. Makes perfect sense if you are a leftist.

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Agreed. He's a raging hypocrite too, on a personal level.
Maroon Dawn
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nortex97 said:

Agreed. He's a raging hypocrite too, on a personal level.



Remember: he was elected in the midst of the stupid "elbows up" movement to "stand up to Trump!"

How's that going there Canadians?
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Canada could quickly become a new overseas colony for Red China.

No way the US allows that. That would be a huge national security risk to the US. If Carney clown plays that super dangerous game he will turn Canada into a US territory as this is intolerable.

No way is this happens without a major crises or conflict.
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I can't quite get an honest feel for their real conditions, as there is a lot of propaganda about them by their state media. I think they have cut back on Islamic migration, somehow, so good for them there.

Overall I think they are treading water basically, at very best.
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Scratching beneath the surface of this Q3 GDP report reveals weakening economic fundamentals. Indeed, most of the 2.6% annualized growth registered last quarter came courtesy of collapsing imports - recall that GDP is calculated by taking domestic demand, adding exports to it and subtracting imports, meaning that when imports fall, GDP tends to increase. And part of the reason importers pulled back last quarter was the contraction of domestic demand.

Indeed, consumption spending fell in Q3 for the first time since 2021 amid declining employment which restrained disposable incomes. Business investment also fell in the third quarter, extending a slide that started earlier in the year, even before U.S. tariffs were implemented. Another red flag is the likelihood of a poor handoff from Q4 after Statistics Canada's advance estimate for October GDP showed a sharp decline. That weakness is set to carry into 2026, especially if trade barriers remain in place.

No end in sight to trade woes

To be sure, America's trade war is weighing heavily on Canada's economy. Exports of non-energy goods have dropped sharply since U.S. tariffs came into effect last April (Figure 1). While the majority of our exports are compliant with the Canada-U.S.-Mexico agreement (CUSMA) and therefore exempt from America's reciprocal tariffs of 35%, key industries including autos, steel, aluminum, copper and forestry continue to face tariffs as high as 50%. Those sectoral tariffs are beyond the scope being studied by the U.S. Supreme Court, meaning that even if the latter rules against the White House's reciprocal tariffs, the above-mentioned industries are unlikely to see any immediate relief.


There's just not much Governor Carney can do without bending the knee over their ridiculous crap like dairy/timber industry 'protectionism' to then beg Trump to lower tariffs, but I don't see his CCP masters allowing that. More at the link.
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Has Trump pushed Governor Carney far enough to stimulate an actual Canadian opposition even in Ottawa?

No matter their hatred of DJT, at some point self-preservation has to kick in, one would think.
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japantiger said:

Tim Horton's must put lead in their donuts and coffee....Canada is populated by ******s.


Everytime I drive by one i think of this:

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I was not aware that the British Columbia Supreme Court had in August thrown into question land ownership of 95% of that province. It did so by ruling that indigenous ownership of the land had not been extinguished and that tribal ownership was superior to claims of ownership since British Columbia came onto existence.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/canada-s-1-billion-question-do-property-rights-still-exist-in-british-columbia/ar-AA1SLzBM

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Crucially, Young said in her ruling that homes and businesses in the area occupy Cowichan land, so their titles "coexist" with the indigenous claim. Private property can't extinguish an indigenous land right that existed before either British Columbia or Canada, she said.

The indigenous tribes, the Cowichan Nation, has a "senior and prior" right to private land.95% of British Columbia is on "unceded land" subject to Indian ownership.

I cannot imagine the folks in BC are going to just sit there while billions in private property rights are transferred to folks whose right to the property died 200 years ago. Add this to Alberta and Quebec, I'd say Carney is in deep kim chee.
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Wow, that is wild. The legal battles are going to take forever to work out and all property sales will probably stagnate due to risk.
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nortex97
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Has Gov. Carney made the dissolution of the 51st state inevitable?
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If 10 percent of Alberta voters sign a petition for a referendum by May 2, the province will vote on independence in October 2026. The Trump administration is already raising the issue of Alberta's independence.
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US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has weighed in on a separatist movement in Alberta, saying the western Canadian province is a "natural partner for the US".
"Alberta has a wealth of natural resources, but they won't let them build a pipeline to the Pacific," Bessent told an American right-wing commentator in an interview on Thursday.
"I think we should let them come down into the US, and Alberta is a natural partner for the US. They have great resources. The Albertans are very independent people."

Carney's deal with China seems likely to force Canadians to choose between cheap Chinese imports and doubling the price of anything from America.

While Alberta might be the first in the barrel, you can bet it won't be long until provinces without Alberta's oil exports to China find life much more expensive and problematic.

Right now, polling shows that independence from Canada receives at least 29 percent of Albertans' and 31 percent of Quebecois' support. This, however, is based on the status quo, which includes a highly advantageous trade arrangement for Canada with the U.S. If that trade deal goes away, but remains possible through independence, then I think it is safe to say that both provinces could vote to head for the exits.

A broken and atomized Canada has its risks, but they are lower than those of a Canada with a close relationship to China. An independent Alberta and Quebecand if that happens, a lot of other provinces will be close behindcould become territories in the mode of Puerto Rico and Guam, where they gain the political, economic, and defense benefits of affiliation with the U.S. but don't bring millions of quasi-communists into our political system.

The irony here is just too rich and luxurious to ignore. Carney's push to become the darling of the Never-Trump international community could end up being the final straw that leads to the inevitable breakup of Canada.

Ottawa would demand an absolute fortune to agree to Alberta splitting away though.
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