Is Greenland next?

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AggieVictor10 said:

TexAgs91 said:

twelve12twelve said:

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Old McDonald said:

ETFan said:

Greenland or Iceland? Turns out, whatever they want. Don't believe your eyes.

Will MAGA ever get it?

the Party's most essential command

Talk about a ridiculous topic...

The guy's plane had to return after 45 minutes into the flight, he had to change planes, fly another 8 hours to get to Davos, and then immediately get in front of a bunch of people and speak for an hour and a half.

We all know he tends to speak contemporaneously, rather than simply read the teleprompter. I know I wouldn't have been able to give a speech like that immediately after an incredibly long flight without flubbing some lines, and if you're honest with yourself, you'll admit you probably wouldn't be able to either.



MAGA refuses to hold their president to ANY standards.

Making America Great Again refuses to hold their president to ANY standards?

What does that even mean?


"MAGA ," used in this sense, is shorthand for the cult who worships dementia don.


But you knew that already.

Hth.

Others would like to warp its meaning, but no, MAGA has a meaning.
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ETFan said:

jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

ETFan said:

Greenland or Iceland? Turns out, whatever they want. Don't believe your eyes.

Will MAGA ever get it?

the Party's most essential command

Talk about a ridiculous topic...

The guy's plane had to return after 45 minutes into the flight, he had to change planes, fly another 8 hours to get to Davos, and then immediately get in front of a bunch of people and speak for an hour and a half.

We all know he tends to speak contemporaneously, rather than simply read the teleprompter. I know I wouldn't have been able to give a speech like that immediately after an incredibly long flight without flubbing some lines, and if you're honest with yourself, you'll admit you probably wouldn't be able to either.



So the answer to my question is "no". No, they won't get it.



No, I get it. And you do too, because I believe you're smarter than equating a couple of missed lines with the daily dementia we dealt with under the previous occupant of the Oval. You're unfortunately grasping at the only low hanging fruit you can reach to try to undermine our POTUS's overall point regarding why the current geopolitical situation in Greenland creates a current security risk.

Unless you truly believe that mis-stating Iceland for Greenland a few times in a speech is some sort of 5-D Animal Farm chess move; and if so, I really can't help you.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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MAGA refuses to hold their president to ANY standards.

Who ran the country during the 46th president's term?

Do you know? The rest of us do not.

I don't even know what type of standards triple 12 would like to see. Though I expect it involves either impeachment or the 25th. He can always hope.
eater of the list
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That deal?

Greenland and NATO agreed to let the US increase military presence in the region and establish more bases.








(try to not remember that that was already the case before all of this, taco trump just claimed victory for the status quo)
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eater of the list said:

That deal?

Greenland and NATO agreed to let the US increase military presence in the region and establish more bases.








(try to not remember that that was already the case before all of this, taco trump just claimed victory for the status quo)


Let's see... you don't know who was at the Davos meeting, you don't know WW2 history and you believe this Greenland thing ends with more US military presence in the area.
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Can you help the thread by trying to explain what the heck you are talking about?
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carl spacklers hat said:

74OA said:

  • US President Donald Trump is dropping plans to add a 10% tariff to goods from eight European countries over their opposition to his push to acquire Greenland
  • In a post on social media Trump says he has "formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland" after talks with Nato's secretary general
  • Earlier, the president ruled out using force to take over Greenland - but said he was seeking immediate negotiations to acquire the island
DAVOS



It is humorous that after 5 years of Trump, the TDS freaks still haven't figured out how this man negotiates. So, I'll help them out: take the most radical position in order to throw the opposition into turmoil then negotiate from a position of strength gained from the opposition's imbalance. It. Is. That. Simple.


Libs need something to hold onto a victory thinking he didnt get what he wanted. It helps them confirm their tds.
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Nows a good time to place a bet for many of you

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“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
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"5. US "Golden Dome" system will be involved

6. Opens door to US-backed infrastructure investment"

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eater of the list said:

That deal?

Greenland and NATO agreed to let the US increase military presence in the region and establish more bases.

(try to not remember that that was already the case before all of this, taco trump just claimed victory for the status quo)
world leaders have figured out the key to negotiating with trump is to just offer him things or agreements that already exist and let him take credit for it.

he obviously doesn't know any better, he doesn't even know the difference between iceland and greenland.
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Trump misspeaks between mentioning Greenland and Iceland (remember when Aleppo was the most important thing a president needed to know) a couple of times in an hour and a half speech and he's wholly unfit for the presidency

The leftists grasping at straws to Get Trump will never get old. We got him now!! Walls are closing in!!

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Which one of the following points taken from the above tweet was already in place?

BREAKING: Initial details on the Trump-Greenland deal have emerged:

1. Involves "small pockets of land" for the US (as in, sovereign US soil akin to Brits in Cyprus)
2. US involved in Greenland's mineral rights (not just the extraction of said minerals)
3. Duration of the deal has an "indefinite" timeframe
4. Designed to block Russian influence in Greenland
5. US "Golden Dome" system will be involved
6. Opens door to US-backed infrastructure investment

Trump is looking to secure land, minerals, and defense in one deal.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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And that's just the beginning.
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I've been busy today, but wow, this is seriously funny stuff.


Oh, 'small pockets of sovereign land?' I bet some Inuit peasants are excited about the job prospects in those 'small pockets.'
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U.S., Danish, and NATO officials are discussing a framework for expanded American military access in Greenland.

The proposal would grant the United States sovereignty over limited areas of Greenland to build and operate military bases.

The idea, associated with Mark Rutte, has been compared to Britain's sovereign base areas in Cyprus.

Source: NYT

Euroswine tears are delicious.
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Sid Farkas said:

74OA said:

  • US President Donald Trump is dropping plans to add a 10% tariff to goods from eight European countries over their opposition to his push to acquire Greenland
  • In a post on social media Trump says he has "formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland" after talks with Nato's secretary general
  • Earlier, the president ruled out using force to take over Greenland - but said he was seeking immediate negotiations to acquire the island
DAVOS



Trump's Truth Social post:
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"Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region,"


TDS crowd needs to find the next hair on fire topic pronto...

Perhaps you can explain what rights the Secretary General of NATO has to make a deal over a country that he has no control over.

Is this like Trump plotting to give Ukraine to Russia?
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Well since the EU and Denmark often hide behind NATO's skirt when dealing with us (despite us carrying the absolute lion's share of the organization itself) might as well cut out the middleman and just negotiate with them.
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Decay said:

Well since the EU and Denmark often hide behind NATO's skirt when dealing with us (despite us carrying the absolute lion's share of the organization itself) might as well cut out the middleman and just negotiate with them.
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MemphisAg1 said:

Nice move Trump... mortgage rates are moving up due to the spike in yields caused by this **** show over Greenland and its impact on bond markets.

I've said elsewhere Trump has done a great job on many things, but then he goes and totally wrecks something else. It's because he's one dimensional and only uses one tool regardless of the task... a hammer.

A hammer is good for some things. And it's also useless... even destructive for others.

So unnecessary. We already have military bases on Greenland and could negotiate more if needed.

Quote:

Just days after mortgage rates hit a three-year low, sparking a near-instant surge in applications, fresh trade tensions are threatening to undo that progress.

Rates on a 30-year mortgage jumped 14 basis points to an average of 6.21% on Tuesday morning, according to Mortgage News Daily, following new escalations in the standoff between President Trump and European leaders over the future of Greenland.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/homebuyers-now-have-a-greenland-problem-mortgage-rates-jump-on-geopolitical-tariff-turmoil-181720233.html

As a taxpayer you had better hope that interest rates are reduced, the US has trillions of debt to refinance or some huge economic problems will inevitably occur.
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Quote:

one poster claimed the army was going to mutiny over Greenland. LMAO


Very strange claim. And disappointing.
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bobbranco said:


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one poster claimed the army was going to mutiny over Greenland. LMAO

Very strange claim. And disappointing.

Disagree. It was the best part of this thread. As though some Delta Force/Seal team (more than would be needed) would just say 'no, I don't think this is right/legal, not going to do this.'

To me that's the best part of this forum. I just wish we had more such posters.
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I have a dip**** sip friend from high school who is equally as dip**** liberal. Sent me and another friend an article terrified that Trump is sending in the military and once again starting WWIII.

You seriously can't help these people. They are so mentally and emotionally broke and brainwashed. Just mock them directly as I do this guy. They are primarily so narcissistic and delusional they don't even understand when you are mocking them.
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No one at that low a level is going to mutiny. It would have to be someone at a much higher level refusing the order (most likely as CYA not knowing whether future political winds might get them jail time). Still seems unlikely.

The more likely scenario is Trump gets impeached for taking such action. I wouldn't be surprised if there are enough R's that would draw a line in the sand on invading a NATO ally that it could happen (certainly no Dem is going to vote against it).
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GAC06 said:

I'd rather read a shred of evidence backing up your claim

OK...Here you go...


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Trump might want to buy Greenland but his nemesis, China, is there before him


That's an overture from China.


You're welcome.

BTW, that's from 2019...
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But Euro's are so serious now. This guy is about right:
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KentK93 said:

dvldog said:

Pretty decent Trump impression as well

Agree! He almost nailed but forgot to add hand jesters.


Jesters?
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This whole thing has been a giant nothingburger.

Trump believes these bases and our assets in Greenland is a high priority for homeland security. He was always going to use economic might to push these countries into giving him what he wanted. I'm sure he would take the entire island if they were to give it to us, but all he wants are the bases for security against Russian missiles and ships.

Sending a couple dozen NATO troops to Greenland literally did nothing. If Trump really was going to "invade" Greenland (outlandishly crazy) a couple dozen NATO troops aren't stopping him.

This whole situation is classic Trump negotiations that the rest of the world simply can't understand. He wants something. So he says he wants the "something"x3. Europe or the left whine and cry and throw a temper tantrum, calling him a Nazi and all other manner of BS. Then, they eventually cave and give him the "something", which is all he ever really wanted.

ETA: Basically, this means massive US investment into Greenland (great for Greenlanders). It cuts China and Russia out of the land, with around $5T in minerals. And it gives us better defense against ICBM's and Russian navy in the north atlantic.

ALL OF THAT IS GOOD. Why can't the leftists in this country simply agree a good thing is a good thing, lol
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Lathspell said:

ALL OF THAT IS GOOD. Why can't the leftists in this country simply agree a good thing is a good thing, lol

Because evil is darkness, which is a separation from light, which is the good. 'What fellowship can light have with darkness?' …a wise man once said.
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Old McDonald said:

eater of the list said:

That deal?

Greenland and NATO agreed to let the US increase military presence in the region and establish more bases.

(try to not remember that that was already the case before all of this, taco trump just claimed victory for the status quo)

world leaders have figured out the key to negotiating with trump is to just offer him things or agreements that already exist and let him take credit for it.

he obviously doesn't know any better, he doesn't even know the difference between iceland and greenland.


This is one of those posts where you simply cannot picture its author typing it out without Covid mask on.
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So does the autocrat want Iceland or Greenland? And how long till he figures out that neither of them are responsible for the Nobel peace prize?
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Reginald Cousins said:

KentK93 said:

dvldog said:

Pretty decent Trump impression as well

Agree! He almost nailed but forgot to add hand jesters.


Jesters?


Jester is dead
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I heard that Denmark/Greenland sidelined for now: Multiple reports, including from Rutte himself in interviews (e.g., with Fox News), confirm that sovereignty transfer or Denmark ceding control of Greenland "did not come up" in their talks.

Is that true? Did Trump cancel the Tarrifs without even discussing transfer of any part of Greenland to the US?

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4D chess
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Think about this…the most indebted major country in NATO is also the one that carries the heaviest burden. This was never supposed to be the case and is not sustainable. Other countries have to spend more on their defense (sorry, cut your social program)…and the US needs to find a way to perhaps make some $$ from all the propping up we have done over the years.
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Don't worry, Greece and Turkey are doing worse on debt so we're not the worst of NATO
 
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