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Anyone Else Kinda Surprised The Godfather Universe...............?

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Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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Hasn't been touched in modern TV/Streaming/Film?

I know we got "The Offer" on Paramount about the making of the movie which I really liked but I just figured there would be some sort of cash grab to either have some movie or show made out of the Godfather Universe either about side characters (Coppola had once hinted both Luca Brasi and Al Neri could have their own movies made about their backstory) , or even some sort of continuation of the Corleone family story.

I believe Mario Puzo's family owns the rights to any creative work done in the universe.

Also kinda wondering if the studios feel like a movie now 50+ years old may not connect with younger audiences. Less and less young people even know what the Godfather is. Maybe because a lot of people feel like it insists upon itself
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Good lord don't give them any ideas. Rewatched the 3 films recently. They look great on Blu-ray
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I think we need Amazon Prime to a Godfather of the Rings series

"I'm gonna make him an offer for the Precious he can't refuse."
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I don't know the answer but I would love to see it.
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Animated! And with an all female cast!
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NoahAg said:

Animated! And with an all female cast!
Not enough. Has to have some flaming homo, binary, trans crap to be worth making.
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No offense but I feel like every reboot/remake thread ever has this joke. "The main character is going to be a black lesbian! No thanks!"

To the mega fans out there, are there subplots that could be expanded on or are ripe for continued storytelling? It's been a while since I've seen the movies but I feel like they all wrapped up pretty thoroughly. I don't need a Moe Greene prequel film or anything so maybe a spin-off would just be a complete stretch. Not that that's stopped anyone in the past though.

It'd have to be compelling enough at face value to attract a casual fan or newbie, like "the origin of the rings" in LOTR or "from the villain's point of view" like Wicked or Cruela or the like.
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There's a pretty big (pun intended) plot point dropped from the book to movie that they should focus on.
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Quad Dog said:

There's a pretty big (pun intended) plot point dropped from the book to movie that they should focus on.


As a reader of the book, a series about that might definitely draw more females in than are normally into The Godfather.
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I mean, the Olive Oil War could be interesting, but recasting Young Vito would be a no-win situation.

I don't think the Luca Brasi backstory would make for a great film. Without spoiling it, he's an abhorrent person in a lot of ways beyond being a mafia killer. Plus, you know how it ends. Neri has a little more nuance, but I don't think his story would play incredibly well in today's Hollywood.

Let sleeping dons lie.
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Claude! said:

I mean, the Olive Oil War could be interesting, but recasting Young Vito would be a no-win situation.

I don't think the Luca Brasi backstory would make for a great film. Without spoiling it, he's an abhorrent person in a lot of ways beyond being a mafia killer. Plus, you know how it ends. Neri has a little more nuance, but I don't think his story would play incredibly well in today's Hollywood.

Let sleeping dons lie.


What if they did some kind of crossover season with The Godfather and The Sopranos? Would go back in time a bit so we could bring back Tony's mom. She was always so pleasant.

They could tie in the never resolved Russian arc from The Sopranos with The Godfather somehow.

I think this could be something special.
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Quad Dog said:

There's a pretty big (pun intended) plot point dropped from the book to movie that they should focus on.


They didn't entirely drop it. At the wedding some girls were making size jokes with their hands. At least I thought that was a nod to it.
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Really should've just stopped at 2
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rhutton125 said:

No offense but I feel like every reboot/remake thread ever has this joke. "The main character is going to be a black lesbian! No thanks!"



Said on the same day that the first trailer for a major franchise reboot was released where a major character was race-swapped.
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They already did the Godfather cash grab movie, it was called Godfather 3.
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Why put this out into the universe? You keep this **** buried deep, and pray it never happens.

That said, I really enjoyed The Offer.
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DTP02 said:

They already did the Godfather cash grab movie, it was called Godfather 3.


I've never seen it. Probably because of TA. Ima give it a chance. 2 is my fav. Loved the book.
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Queso1 said:

DTP02 said:

They already did the Godfather cash grab movie, it was called Godfather 3.


I've never seen it. Probably because of TA. Ima give it a chance. 2 is my fav. Loved the book.


Just my very personal opinion (from someone who has seen 1 and 2 at least 20 times each including multiple viewings of the "Complete GF Epic"...

3 wasn't terrible. It just wasn't anywhere in the same class of film as 1 and 2. I know Sofia Coppola often gets the brunt of the negativity from it , but it was just so imperfect on so many other levels too.

-Puzzo and Coppola admittedly rushed through writing the script and story. (Cash grab for both no doubt)
-The story was just way too complex with the whole Immobilare thing and Catholic Church
-No Tom Hagen no Bueno. Connie (as good as she was in 1 and 2) just doesn't work as the trusted advisor. And BJ (George Hamilton sure as hell doesn't either).
-First Cousin love? Cmon now. Ya I know first cousins getting married is common in a lot of the world but that story felt super weird.

All these imperfections aside, it was a decent movie ,but after having 2 perfect films (in my opinion at least) was hard to stomach this last installment had gone a little off the rails comparatively .
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rhutton125 said:

To the mega fans out there, are there subplots that could be expanded on or are ripe for continued storytelling?

Fredo banging cocktail waitresses two at a time.
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IMO, Godfather 3 is a good movie that people overreacted to because it wasn't top 10 all time good.
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I would have liked it more if they had brought back Robert Duvall to reprise his role as Tom Hagen.
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I liked Puzo's novel The Sicilian but it was made into an awful movie starring Christopher Lambert that didn't do it justice.
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Pretty sure that Hollywood tried to put this together, but the project stalled out when they couldn't find the right black lesbian to play Michael
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Sapper Redux said:

I think we need Amazon Prime to a Godfather of the Rings series

"I'm gonna make him an offer for the Precious he can't refuse."



Never go against the family, Frodo
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Bruce Almighty said:

IMO, Godfather 3 is a good movie that people overreacted to because it wasn't top 10 all time good.

This is where I'm at on GF3.

It was the second Godfather movie I'd seen along with the original. I never could get through the second one (I have by now), seeing it in the theater when it released in 1990. I did not at that time find it to be terrible but thought it was lesser than The Godfather. And then it disappeared from my memory altogether.

Until years later when I continually saw a barrage of negative TexAgs threads about the movie. Seeing how TexAgs typically lambastes the Star Wars prequels - which I wholeheartedly disagree with - I returned to The Godfather movies, watching them in order. The first two are among the all-time greats. The third is not, but I still think it is a decent yet very flawed movie.
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I wonder if Return of the Jedi would have had similar reactions if it came out in 1997 instead of 1983. I think another problem Godfather 3 had was the 16 years between it and Godfather 2.
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Bruce Almighty said:

I wonder if Return of the Jedi would have had similar reactions if it came out in 1997 instead of 1983. I think another problem Godfather 3 had was the 16 years between it and Godfather 2.


It was always going to be controversial with the casting of Coppola's daughter in a lead role. The movie wasn't bad but when you put a novice in a role where she has to work with Pacino
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Bruce Almighty said:

IMO, Godfather 3 is a good movie that people overreacted to because it wasn't top 10 all time good.


Agreed. I think it's another casualty of when it becomes cool and cliche to hate on something in particular. And that becomes a life of its own.
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bonfarr said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I wonder if Return of the Jedi would have had similar reactions if it came out in 1997 instead of 1983. I think another problem Godfather 3 had was the 16 years between it and Godfather 2.


It was always going to be controversial with the casting of Coppola's daughter in a lead role. The movie wasn't bad but when you put a novice in a role where she has to work with Pacino

Sofia was as the story goes a last minute replacement for Winona Ryder who pulled out of the project due to exhaustion.

I've always wondered what the true story was. Was Winona spiraling out of control and partying too much or did she have second thoughts due to the script/pre-production?

Also, since someone mentioned the prequels: Sofia Coppola has a non-speaking role as one of Queen Amidala's handmaidens.
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I wrote this a few years ago about why I so dislike GF3 -
I am a huge Godfather fan and while Godfather I is my favorite movie of all time I think Godfather II is "better" - the layers of plots between Frankie, Hyman and Michael are just perfectly done, and Fredo's betrayal - and the aftermath - are searing, and the juxtaposition of Connie finally understanding Michael while Kay realizes she can't live with what he is anymore are so good. I could watch both movies over and over and often do.

Godfather III is overly complicated without being elegant, and the young characters aren't especially good (although I liked Andy Garcia). My biggest problem was with Michael. In the originals he was defined by a quiet, slow-burn deadliness that was chilling when it was turned on. In Godfather III he was simply Stock Mid-Nineties Al Pacino Character with lots of yelling and overacting. He didn't seem like an older version of Michael (the way Kay seemed like an older version of Kay), he was a completely different person. It took me out of the movie in every scene he was in. Speaking only for myself, that's the main reason I dislike it so strongly.
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Plus Michael's haircut in 3 is dumb.
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