AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH made nearly $70M at the global box office this Friday!
— Global Box Office (@GlobalBoxOff) December 27, 2025
It’s now tracking for a whopping $750M-$800M total worldwide by SUNDAY and $1 BILLION by Friday!
This makes James Cameron the first and only director to EVER make four billionaire movies in a row. pic.twitter.com/F3dbquAZy0
**** Avatar: Fire & Ash ****
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Still haven't seen it, btw. Had a work thing come up the day it released, I've been in Texas ever since, and no family wants to see it. So I'm waiting until I get back to LA next week to see it in IMAX.
anybody watch this in 4D? my kids want to do that but I'm skeptical it's worth it. the only movie I've liked in 4d was Twisters.
TCTTS said:
Still haven't seen it, btw. Had a work thing come up the day it released, I've been in Texas ever since, and no family wants to see it. So I'm waiting until I get back to LA next week to see it in IMAX.
Horrible movie. Not worth it in the least…. Pure waste of 3+ hours…
TCTTS said:
Still haven't seen it, btw. Had a work thing come up the day it released, I've been in Texas ever since, and no family wants to see it. So I'm waiting until I get back to LA next week to see it in IMAX.
Worth a watch - a bit too long like the second one - but I liked the continued development of pretty much all the characters. XD or IMAX is definitely the way to go.
Hey TCTTS, if you're in DFW,
Ha, much appreciated, but I'm a couple hours northwest and flying back Monday...
I'm not sure how anyone can dislike this movie unless you just don't know what you're in for. It's like going to a Tex Mex restaurant and being mad that you eat pretty good chips and queso and some pretty good enchiladas. This movie was the same as the last two, visually insane (saw it IMAX 3D, looked amazing) and with a basic but serviceable plot. Who cares? Just enjoy it.
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I'm not sure how anyone can dislike this movie unless you just don't know what you're in for. It's like going to a Tex Mex restaurant and being mad that you eat pretty good chips and queso and some pretty good enchiladas. This movie was the same as the last two, visually insane (saw it IMAX 3D, looked amazing) and with a basic but serviceable plot. Who cares? Just enjoy it.
I can't get around how inaccurate the Pandoran armor is. It's like they don't even study history when they make these films.
https://deadline.com/2025/12/james-cameron-press-conference-end-avatar-franchise-early-1236657330/
Guess he won't be needing that press conference...
Guess he won't be needing that press conference...
Oh wow, what a bazinga!
TCTTS said:AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH made nearly $70M at the global box office this Friday!
— Global Box Office (@GlobalBoxOff) December 27, 2025
It’s now tracking for a whopping $750M-$800M total worldwide by SUNDAY and $1 BILLION by Friday!
This makes James Cameron the first and only director to EVER make four billionaire movies in a row. pic.twitter.com/F3dbquAZy0
James Cameron proving doubters wrong is a tradition as old as cinema itself.
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Put me firmly in the "these movies rock" camp.
It does seem like Cameron may be at the end of his creativity with the franchise. It seems like this will make enough money to get 4 and 5 green-lit, but who do we think actually ends up directing?
It does seem like Cameron may be at the end of his creativity with the franchise. It seems like this will make enough money to get 4 and 5 green-lit, but who do we think actually ends up directing?
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Put me firmly in the "these movies rock" camp.
It does seem like Cameron may be at the end of his creativity with the franchise. It seems like this will make enough money to get 4 and 5 green-lit, but who do we think actually ends up directing?
Jake Sully can direct.
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The part at the end where it said "Jake Sully will return in Avengers: Doomsday" really blew my mind
Being in an Avatar body makes him either a version of Vision or Ultron, right?
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Being in an Avatar body makes him either a version of Vision or Ultron, right?
Vision + Ultron =
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Saw it in 4D on Christmas day.
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WTF is this franchise? #Avatar3 actually increased in ticket sales in Germany 🇩🇪 and it had the second biggest weekend in the country from the last 5 years.
— MoviesThatMaher (@MoviesThatMaher) December 30, 2025
$130M in Germany alone, I’m telling you, this is going to have crazy legs. Cameron is 👑 https://t.co/omiWdfgooa
so it turns out this is the plot of the movie https://t.co/jWUvCoO2JU
— Charlie is so tired (@MooXProductions) December 29, 2025
This is amazing...
For anyone looking into where this came from (as I was):https://t.co/NKqmExo1uD
— André (@AndreSegers) December 30, 2025
here too: https://t.co/jaODhnElFL
— mary (@theoceanblooms) December 30, 2025
<3 Varang <3
Same https://t.co/puUVF6jo3T pic.twitter.com/EaKsJ5qrEW
— Podcast: The Ride (@PodcastTheRide) December 30, 2025
I think everyone expected this to do fine even by Cameron standards. But how is it tracking vs Part 2? Any falloff?
There's been drop-off from the 2nd to the 3rd movies, at least in the opening weekend box office. How that relates to the budget and returns on the movies, I have no idea. I'm sure they're still worthwhile for the studio.
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"Avatar: The Way of Water" had an opening weekend box office of $134 million in the United States. It grossed a total of approximately $435 million globally during its debut weekend.
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"Avatar: Fire and Ash" had an opening box office of approximately $88 million domestically. This was below expectations, which had projected an opening between $110 million and $125 million.
From what I understand, Fire and Ash has actually somehow outperformed The Way of Water post-opening-weekend.
For instance...
Global 2nd Weekend = $224.6M = The Way of Water
Global 2nd Weekend = $245.2M = Fire and Ash
... and it's continuing to close the gap. That said, ultimately, Fire and Ash is unlikely to catch The Way of Water's $2.32B global total gross, and will probably end up somewhere between $1.75B and $2B, which is still obviously a massive success, more than most experts anticipated, and more than enough to greenlight the fourth movie.
For instance...
Global 2nd Weekend = $224.6M = The Way of Water
Global 2nd Weekend = $245.2M = Fire and Ash
... and it's continuing to close the gap. That said, ultimately, Fire and Ash is unlikely to catch The Way of Water's $2.32B global total gross, and will probably end up somewhere between $1.75B and $2B, which is still obviously a massive success, more than most experts anticipated, and more than enough to greenlight the fourth movie.
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Who would you like to see direct 4 and 5?
Trying to be realistic, it's not going to be a NAME…like Villanueve or Nolan. But it has to be somebody who can handle the scale right away. So that makes me think Gareth Edwards or Wes Ball?
But a medium name I'd really be into is Joseph Kosinski.
I just don't think Cameron is going to do more and will hand the reigns to someone else, but it's got to be someone he likes that won't come fiddle with the story.
Trying to be realistic, it's not going to be a NAME…like Villanueve or Nolan. But it has to be somebody who can handle the scale right away. So that makes me think Gareth Edwards or Wes Ball?
But a medium name I'd really be into is Joseph Kosinski.
I just don't think Cameron is going to do more and will hand the reigns to someone else, but it's got to be someone he likes that won't come fiddle with the story.
I saw speculation the other day that while Cameron might not direct, he'd almost assuredly still be incredibly hands-on and oversee the process. Basically, he'd just delegate a lot more (something I think even he mentioned recently). So, to that end, it might not even be someone we've heard of. It could be some crucial internal figure on the last two movies who's simply promoted/given more responsibility, with Cameron checking in remotely/in-person every few days or something. Maybe something along those lines.
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Who would you like to see direct 4 and 5?
I'm curious if any of that is due to the box office competition during the release of Way of Water versus the current box office competition for Fire and Ash.
Christmas Weekend of 2022 had (just in the top 10):
Way of Water
Black Panther
Puss in Boots:Last Wish
Babylon
The Whale
The Menu
Strange World
The Fablemans
Devotion
Christmas weekend of 2025 had (top 10):
Fire and Ash
Zootopia 2
Marty Supreme
Anaconda
The Housemaid
David
Spongebob Squarepants
Song Sung Blue
Wicked 2
Five Nights at Freddys 2
I've give the nod for better options to Christmas 2022, i.e. Way of Water had more competition on its 2nd weekend, a weekend where people want to get out of the house after being cooped up with family.
It'll be interesting to see if Fire and Ash continues to have legs.
Christmas Weekend of 2022 had (just in the top 10):
Way of Water
Black Panther
Puss in Boots:Last Wish
Babylon
The Whale
The Menu
Strange World
The Fablemans
Devotion
Christmas weekend of 2025 had (top 10):
Fire and Ash
Zootopia 2
Marty Supreme
Anaconda
The Housemaid
David
Spongebob Squarepants
Song Sung Blue
Wicked 2
Five Nights at Freddys 2
I've give the nod for better options to Christmas 2022, i.e. Way of Water had more competition on its 2nd weekend, a weekend where people want to get out of the house after being cooped up with family.
It'll be interesting to see if Fire and Ash continues to have legs.
Christmas Eve was a Saturday and Christmas fell on a Sunday in 2022 which seems like it would have negatively effected box office for that weekend. How they compare this upcoming weekend would probably be more useful.
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Actually, Christmas Day is one of the busiest movie days of the year. Weekend numbers get a bump. Although, the non wknd numbers probably take a huge hit losing the holiday.
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Actually, Christmas Day is one of the busiest movie days of the year. Weekend numbers get a bump. Although, the non wknd numbers probably take a huge hit losing the holiday.
Which is weird to me. Not once have I thought about going to see a movie on Christmas Day.
Agree, but I've done it a few times. Avatar 2 and Titanic come to mind - guess Cameron owns the holiday.
I guess there is zero entertainment competition with everything else being closed and families often needing an afternoon to kill before dinner (or a desire to get the eff away from each other for a few hours).
I guess there is zero entertainment competition with everything else being closed and families often needing an afternoon to kill before dinner (or a desire to get the eff away from each other for a few hours).
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