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Only the second time I've cried since my father's death was the morphine comfort care scene.

My mom, sister, and I made the call to help him over the hump to prevent suffering in his final minutes or hours.

He passed away almost 4 years ago. I did NOT expect that reaction as the emotion was a sudden blindside.
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Sorry for your loss, that was a tough scene. It made me think about a couple of friends I've lost over the years that I never got to say goodbye to when Cassie was talking to the oldest son. Everything that's played out with the husband has been tough to watch because he's not ready, he's in a panic, and he doesn't know what to do. It makes you wonder how anyone is supposed to process that whether you're the one with a terminal health issue, or one of the kids. I think the biggest line that hit me was when she said "you know I didn't always look like this."
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Garrelli 5000 said:

Only the second time I've cried since my father's death was the morphine comfort care scene.

My mom, sister, and I made the call to help him over the hump to prevent suffering in his final minutes or hours.

He passed away almost 4 years ago. I did NOT expect that reaction as the emotion was a sudden blindside.

There are certain scenes that get me. I related to you a lot here because I was there holding my dad's hand bawling when he peacefully passed. The other scene that about killed me was in Yellowstone when Kevin Costner took Dabney Coleman out of bed and on a horse to go die. I cried for what felt like HOURS after that.
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How come the Pitt can see patients with their systems down but the other hospital can't see patients with their systems down?
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agracer said:

How come the Pitt can see patients with their systems down but the other hospital can't see patients with their systems down?


When you work in a county environment, you're considered the last line of defense and for the most part since you take city/county funds, you are expected to work through whatever may be happening. Other private hospitals will cut back because of liability issues or because they may lose money, the county ones will just press on.

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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

agracer said:

How come the Pitt can see patients with their systems down but the other hospital can't see patients with their systems down?


When you work in a county environment, you're considered the last line of defense and for the most part since you take city/county funds, you are expected to work through whatever may be happening. Other private hospitals will cut back because of liability issues or because they may lose money, the county ones will just press on.



seems like that could be a pretty big black eye for the private hospital. no?
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#1 said:

Am I the only one with the "eye roll" when they show the patient who just wants to die. Everything else was solid. Next week's episode looks like HBOs inevitable attempt of showing their audience how bad the "right" is with their portrayal of ICE.

Didn't think it was that bad. Robbie wanted to get them out of there ASAP. Probably as much to avoid any problems from anyone in any way shape or form, but also so patients would stop leaving. Obviously anti-ICE but wasn't nearly as bad as I thought based on your post.

Oh, NM....I posted before the show was over. It was pretty eye-roll ICE is the obviously evil incarnate.

Next week they should do a show with a raped half dead girl named Laken Riley and the guy who assaulted her also makes an appearance and see who they treat with empathy.
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Folks will obviously have their own opinions based on political leanings, but I don't think the effect they showed that having on the people in and around the ED was unrealistic at all.

I also don't doubt that things like the final actions happen more often than people like to admit nor that the system is designed to make it as hard as possible to find people who have been detained, but they did go for maximum drama there.
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My wife and I both rolled our eyes. I found it to be ridiculous.
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RightWingConspirator said:

My wife and I both rolled our eyes. I found it to be ridiculous.


Shocking.
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Sorry I only eye rolled with the ICE agent scenario/fed agent.
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I think it's pretty realistic.

i do feel sorry for the actor that got his big break ou to have his face covered.
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deer corn said:

Sorry I only eye rolled with the ICE agent scenario/fed agent.


Really ruined the episode for me. It's expected to be a little left leaning but being overtly leftist? Not for me
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TAMUallen said:

deer corn said:

Sorry I only eye rolled with the ICE agent scenario/fed agent.


Really ruined the episode for me. It's expected to be a little left leaning but being overtly leftist? Not for me

Did you not watch season 1?
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It looks like they saved all their wokeness for this episode this season. OF COURSE they pick a harmless looking old Hispanic lady as the person ICE is deporting. Lots of insufferable performances from everyone in this episode.
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Wondering how they handle the transgender who shoots up a Christian school. Assuming that's on the docket?
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The ICE effect on the ER accurately displayed why American healthcare is unaffordable.

ER in freaking Pittsburgh was full of illegal immigrants. 1500 miles from the border. Wait times explode, all of those people will get free care and drugs and the father who was shamed into a go fund me will have money taken from his paycheck to cover them.

The undocumented get better/cheaper care than the American. Of course Americans have empathy for those in need, but suicidal empathy is still suicide.
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I dunno I thought they handled it pretty well

You had one ice agent who seemed to just want to do their job took their mask off was cooperative with the doctors and Robby's view on it was let's just treat this lady and get them out of here and get on with our day. That ice agent was just doing his job.

Then you had another one who kept the mask on and was trying to be Billy bad ass that caused a disruption and resulted in a larger more emotional response.

And yeah ice showing up does disrupt folks. People are afraid of ice. That's an ok message to send.

The show leans left because most things in media do I thought there was some subtle nuance to the portrayals if you're willing to look for them instead of shutting down and rolling your eyes immediately.
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There's a whole lot of reasons why American healthcare is unaffordable.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

It looks like they saved all their wokeness for this episode this season. OF COURSE they pick a harmless looking old Hispanic lady as the person ICE is deporting. Lots of insufferable performances from everyone in this episode.
This one was over the top. Their underwear were showing on this one.
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I too thought it was really well done, and showed the impact on the whole hospital ecosystem, including immigrant healthcare workers who are here legally. The juxtaposition of the drunk, violent golfer being left alone while armed, masked men guarded the injured woman also says a lot.
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Two episodes from catching up… Firstly, this is really painful to watch. Signed up for HBO Max for this show. Tried to watch The Sopranos. Could not handle the stupid. Watched Chernobyl. That was excellent. Watched some of The Wire, pretty good and loaded with star power. Finally powered through day one of The Pitt and close to caught up as mentioned. Greatest show ever, mostly because the person we signed up to watch this for, is eyeball deep in this situation and it makes everything relatable to those of us outside that field.
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bubblesthechimp said:

I dunno I thought they handled it pretty well

You had one ice agent who seemed to just want to do their job took their mask off was cooperative with the doctors and Robby's view on it was let's just treat this lady and get them out of here and get on with our day. That ice agent was just doing his job.

Then you had another one who kept the mask on and was trying to be Billy bad ass that caused a disruption and resulted in a larger more emotional response.

And yeah ice showing up does disrupt folks. People are afraid of ice. That's an ok message to send.

The show leans left because most things in media do I thought there was some subtle nuance to the portrayals if you're willing to look for them instead of shutting down and rolling your eyes immediately.

That was one of the best pieces that the writers and actors have inserted into the entire series. As by the responses, everyone found something they were bothered by and found something they associated as being accurate or good. Everyone had an emotional reaction and whether anyone who was offended, there was part they were pleased with and vice versa. Everyone watched it with their rose colored glasses on!!
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When Langdon tried to talk to Santos and she went ape **** crazy on him it confirms that she's likely the child of a sexually abusive drug addict father. Remember in season 1 when she went in and told the guy accused of touching his daughter she would kill him, prison rape, etc. She is totally damaged goods. Sad thing is that while the victim of such horrible things, she's also extremely likely to follow Langdon down the addiction path. She likely sees something of herself in him.
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100% agree. It's an overall great show that they have to politicize with highly exaggerated circumstances.
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For the docs on the board, wouldn't the reason for Langdon's absence have gotten around? I assume Santos saying only three people know is solely for dramatic effect.

Also, as a weekend golfer, the douchbag friend was perfectly cast.
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I think most staff seem aware Langdon went to rehab, but only 3 people knew he was stealing drugs from the hospital. That was my understanding.
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You knew they were setting it up all season but it was nice to see Oglevie's humbling moment finally arrive. I'm not in medicine but I've interacted with many of his personality types in my life.

Also, while I can appreciate wanting to show the care that street teams can do with the homeless it definitely felt shoehorned in to have McKay go handle that. You have a full on hospital system emergency with a more than overcrowded waiting room and McKay just goes for a stroll in the park to give care to a person who is too ashamed to be in the waiting room. I get its a fictionalized drama but the timing of that felt inaccurate.

The ICE part seemed to accurately portray the interactions that occurred nationwide based on numerous video recordings. I didn't get a pro or anti-immigrant message out of the episode. You can be pro immigration reform while also recognizing that these are the tactics and interactions that many ICE agents have had with other institutions and members of the public in the past year.
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And since Al-Hashimi overheard, I can see this going in a way where she feels obligated to report and Robby and Langdon both go down to end the season on a gut punch.
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cajunaggie08 said:

And since Al-Hashimi overheard, I can see this going in a way where she feels obligated to report and Robby and Langdon both go down to end the season on a gut punch.

Maybe I missed something but it's becoming apparent that Robby must not have gone through the proper internal channels regarding Langdon. I assumed the only reason we saw him back this season was because they did. The way Robby has treated Langdon made me think that Robby didn't want him back in the hospital, but he was there because Langdon followed whatever was laid out for him presumably by someone higher up. I had never gotten the impression that Robby went rogue regarding Langdon. I am very curious how it plays out since Al-Hashimi comes across as very much by the book, but also as someone who's seen how Robby runs the ER and how the staff respects him so she's going to be in a sensitive position of her own.

Regarding the Langdon/Santos situation I've always thought it was odd how fired up she seems to get about a doctor she knew for less than a day, but if she was told to keep quiet then it would make sense. She spoke up about something she saw that was wrong, and rather than the wrongdoer be fired he was given preferential treatment and a way back. But I also never got the impression that Robby is the kind of guy who would tell her to be quiet about it so I've been confused by the whole thing.
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Ah you're right, good catch on that distinction.
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Max Power said:

cajunaggie08 said:

And since Al-Hashimi overheard, I can see this going in a way where she feels obligated to report and Robby and Langdon both go down to end the season on a gut punch.

Maybe I missed something but it's becoming apparent that Robby must not have gone through the proper internal channels regarding Langdon. I assumed the only reason we saw him back this season was because they did. The way Robby has treated Langdon made me think that Robby didn't want him back in the hospital, but he was there because Langdon followed whatever was laid out for him presumably by someone higher up. I had never gotten the impression that Robby went rogue regarding Langdon. I am very curious how it plays out since Al-Hashimi comes across as very much by the book, but also as someone who's seen how Robby runs the ER and how the staff respects him so she's going to be in a sensitive position of her own.

Regarding the Langdon/Santos situation I've always thought it was odd how fired up she seems to get about a doctor she knew for less than a day, but if she was told to keep quiet then it would make sense. She spoke up about something she saw that was wrong, and rather than the wrongdoer be fired he was given preferential treatment and a way back. But I also never got the impression that Robby is the kind of guy who would tell her to be quiet about it so I've been confused by the whole thing.

I'm piecing together the puzzle just like you. It's definitely clear Robby didn't want him back. I guess Robby was willing to cover up the stealing part because he didn't want to completely ruin Langdon's life due to how close they were. So perhaps he assumed Langdon would be too ashamed to come back to the Pitt after rehab or Langdon may have even told that to Robby himself early in recovery so Robby told Santos to not worry about Langdon since he wont be back. But since he did return, Santos is now extra pissed because she didn't think she'd have to deal with him again and Robby told her to keep the lie up as now Robby's career may be endangered if the truth came out.
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i think by all normal accounts langdon should have had his license stripped.

robby let him go to rehab and come back. i dont think that's normal protocol.
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did some of you not read page 9?

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/3521931/replies/72019581

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That's all good and well, but you're assuming Robbie had not seen Langdon the 10 months Langdon was out. Rehab for doctors (had a doctor friend go through it years ago) is 2-3 months. Then, each state has rules and regulations for getting his license back (rural states will take them back the day they walk out the door of rehab as they are so desperate for doctors while bigger ones could take a year or longer). There are meetings with state boards. Then, the hospital would have had meetings with Langdon and all the higher ups to set down the rules and see if Langdon would be taken back.

If Robbie didn't want Langdon there/back he would have had many opportunities to stop it and would have been in many meetings. Sometimes doctors are given their medical license but they can't return to their previous certain fields (e.g., an ER doc may be told to go into private GP/internal medicine practice or an anesthesiologist may not return to a setting where they have the easy access to so many medications which are highly addictive). This line of they had not talked or seen each other in the last 10 months is just total bull*****

A good friend since childhood is a surgeon - he has so many stories of anesthesiologists - one time the guy working with him that day would give himself a squirt of things out and accessible during surgery. He accidentally gave himself a squirt of the wrong thing and when he realized it he told my friend 'get another anesthesiologist in here fast because in a minute I'm going to....." and boom he hit the floor out cold!

It seems Dr's go thru rehab all the time and the hospital could have told him no and Robby would have had a say.
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It's a TV show, not a documentary. Not every aspect of the show will be 100% accurate.

Even so, maybe he said yes because he thought he'd be gone. Or he didn't want to risk the fact that he didn't turn him in for stealing from the hospital/patients getting out.
 
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