Yes, solid summary. Weaponization, energy, and agreements / amnesty are essential background contexts.
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UAP can manipulate the microscopic structure of spacetime around the vehicle, clocks tick more slowly near them, and some are bigger on the inside?
"The Dutch military opened fire at drones over Volkel Air Base in the east of the country but no wreckage was recovered, the Ministry of Defense said Saturday."
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"I want to tell the American people what I know, but I can't, because the vast majority of it remains highly classified. I feel tremendous pressure to share what I can, because I know there will come a time when we all wish we had done things differently. That moment is imminent, and when that moment comes, I know people will say, 'I wish somebody would've told me sooner.'"
"I want to tell the American people what I know, but I can't, because the vast majority of it remains highly classified. I feel tremendous pressure to share what I can, because I know there will come a time when we all wish we had done things differently. That moment is imminent, and when that moment comes, I know people will say, 'I wish somebody would've told me sooner.'"
Redstone said:
UAP can manipulate the microscopic structure of spacetime around the vehicle, clocks tick more slowly near them, and some are bigger on the inside?
Spacetime Geodesic Engineering i.e. spacetime bubbles that place the object inside the bubble outside of the frame of reference of an outside observer including the time frame of reference. Light will essentially bend around the bubble similar to a black hole and make the object look blurry to the outside observer. The object inside of the bubble will see time pass extremely slow on the outside and it would be perfectly normal on the inside. No going splat, no turning to jello.
How the bubble is created is still TBD, but with enough energy and the means to control the electromagnetic field being produced, that's 100% plausible.
“The age of disclosure”@PrimeVideo is smartly produced. Starting at about the one hour mark — is the strongest & most detailed revelations from long time intelligence insiders that I’ve ever heard. The “Warp Bubble” theory is just FASCINATING. Watched the doc again this am.
— Colin Cowherd (@colincowherd) November 23, 2025
These weren't drones.
NJ drone hysteria 1 year later — dozens of sightings remain unresolved, as shocking new details emerge https://t.co/M9eHpqV7UW pic.twitter.com/sqI31q6887
— New York Post (@nypost) November 22, 2025
We know. They were planes
The Age of Disclosure is one of the best documentaries on the whole UFO phenomenon ever. High ranking government officials revealing the truth about what they know about aliens, crashed craft retrieval programs, and back engineering efforts that have been going on for decades.… pic.twitter.com/IB7TAqVIO9
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Redstone said:
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"I want to tell the American people what I know, but I can't, because the vast majority of it remains highly classified. I feel tremendous pressure to share what I can, because I know there will come a time when we all wish we had done things differently. That moment is imminent, and when that moment comes, I know people will say, 'I wish somebody would've told me sooner.'"
I watched the documentary. Considering the number of people saying the things that they are saying.. makes you wonder what is still "highly classified" that they can't say.
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For everybody just starting to get interested in this topic, Jesse Michels has a fantastic podcast/youtube channel where he deep dives into A LOT of topics that are related to the UFO topic.
The one documentary video that I think is one of the best in explaining on 'how we got here', is the bio of a physicist named Thomas Townsend Brown. It's very well done and is a fantastic listen that dives into the parallel history of antigravity and the manhattan project.
The one documentary video that I think is one of the best in explaining on 'how we got here', is the bio of a physicist named Thomas Townsend Brown. It's very well done and is a fantastic listen that dives into the parallel history of antigravity and the manhattan project.
There are avenues to whistleblowing now, but I think the larger issue than security clearances is lethal force and its gradients. Meaning, Grusch not only had his medical records leaked, he and his family was legitimately threatened.
These contractors are also out of control, and Gerb has the receipts on exactly who these are - men in black to physics engineers.
These contractors are also out of control, and Gerb has the receipts on exactly who these are - men in black to physics engineers.
I'm planning on making the family watch Age of Disclosure over Thanksgiving. Should be a good time.
It's so amazing that after "dozens and dozens" of reported crashes since the 40's, coincidentally, literally all of them happened in the immediate presence of "government" who could quickly clean up the debris and classify it away before any private citizens could gather around or take pics or formally document what they saw.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
But they didn't. The Roswell crash was reported by a rancher and it took hours for the Air Force to get anyone on site, and it was just Jesse Marcel initially at that. The Socorro sighting was reported by a police officer; the government didn't arrive onsite for a long time. Respectfully, you're ignorant of the most basic facts about two of the most famous incidents.Juan Lee Pettimore said:
It's so amazing that after "dozens and dozens" of reported crashes since the 40's, coincidentally, literally all of them happened in the immediate presence of "government" who could quickly clean up the debris and classify it away before any private citizens could gather around or take pics or formally document what they saw.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
Juan Lee Pettimore said:
It's so amazing that after "dozens and dozens" of reported crashes since the 40's, coincidentally, literally all of them happened in the immediate presence of "government" who could quickly clean up the debris and classify it away before any private citizens could gather around or take pics or formally document what they saw.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
Maybe "take me to your leader" actually applies here and the aliens were smart enough not to make first contact with Darrell in Cut and Shoot, TX.
Because, according to reports, we either down them ourselves (which has been credibly discussed in the news over the past few days if you were actually paying attention) or they're being "gifted" to us in the form of crashes, leaving us to try to reverse engineer/"unlock" the technology ourselves. According to those in the know, very rarely do these things crash on their own, due to "natural" malfunctions.
Is it all BS? Maybe.
Either way, do you really think you're bringing anything new to this thread we haven't already considered/discussed ad nauseum? If you want to engage in actual critical discussion, we're here for it. Otherwise, please take your condescending attitude and your laugh-cry emojis somewhere else.
Is it all BS? Maybe.
Either way, do you really think you're bringing anything new to this thread we haven't already considered/discussed ad nauseum? If you want to engage in actual critical discussion, we're here for it. Otherwise, please take your condescending attitude and your laugh-cry emojis somewhere else.
YouBet said:Juan Lee Pettimore said:
It's so amazing that after "dozens and dozens" of reported crashes since the 40's, coincidentally, literally all of them happened in the immediate presence of "government" who could quickly clean up the debris and classify it away before any private citizens could gather around or take pics or formally document what they saw.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
Maybe "take me to your leader" actually applies here and the aliens were smart enough not to make first contact with Darrell in Cut and Shoot, TX.
This...you land in the wrong East Texas or Cajun town, and it may kick off a completely unnecessary intergallactric war.
And again, that's what happens more often than not. The initial reports are almost never made by government officials. (Military pilots being a notable exception.)YouBet said:Juan Lee Pettimore said:
It's so amazing that after "dozens and dozens" of reported crashes since the 40's, coincidentally, literally all of them happened in the immediate presence of "government" who could quickly clean up the debris and classify it away before any private citizens could gather around or take pics or formally document what they saw.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
Maybe "take me to your leader" actually applies here and the aliens were smart enough not to make first contact with Darrell in Cut and Shoot, TX.
G Martin 87 said:YouBet said:Juan Lee Pettimore said:
It's so amazing that after "dozens and dozens" of reported crashes since the 40's, coincidentally, literally all of them happened in the immediate presence of "government" who could quickly clean up the debris and classify it away before any private citizens could gather around or take pics or formally document what they saw.
Kind of like the Bigfoot argument. Someone would have been able to get a pic by now.
Maybe "take me to your leader" actually applies here and the aliens were smart enough not to make first contact with Darrell in Cut and Shoot, TX.
And again, that's what happens more often than not. The initial reports are almost never made by government officials. (Military pilots being a notable exception.)
Yeah, I don't know. I'm way late to this topic so haven't read all the way through it. Looking forward to this documentary though and watching it with my Dad. He's seen UFO's from his time in the Air Force during Vietnam so will be curious to get his take on this movie. We haven't discussed it in a long time so it should be fun.
His story: tracking a UFO that was tracking them at same altitude that then went vertically into space in a couple of seconds. My dad is about the most conservative (meaning low key and without drama), ethical guy you can meet so that story has always blown my mind.
The Chase Hughes interview on the Shawn Ryan Show is UAP adjacent and interesting in the context of UAP sightings and "disclosure" from government officials. To be clear, I have no idea who Chase Hughes is or his bonafides. I just happen to listen to most SR shows and caught this one randomly. I've linked to him talking about PSYOPs in coordination with UAP conversation.
Years ago, at the end of a long serious business discussion, I asked a very prominent citizen in Roswell what he thought of the stories. His response was interesting.
He said "I know nothing about it first hand, but I know the men that say they saw alien bodies and they are good men who believe what they say."
He said "I know nothing about it first hand, but I know the men that say they saw alien bodies and they are good men who believe what they say."
Roswell absolutely, 100% happened.
Too many credible, salt-of-the-earth, good men and women all tell the exact same story. The number is literally in the hundreds of first-hand and family/descendants of first-hand witnesses who have all come forward.
Never mind all of the other highly credible circumstantial evidence.
Never mind the fact that the local newspaper - via OFFICIAL word from the local air base - literally announced "RAAF Captures Flying Saucer on Ranch in Roswell Region."
Too many credible, salt-of-the-earth, good men and women all tell the exact same story. The number is literally in the hundreds of first-hand and family/descendants of first-hand witnesses who have all come forward.
Never mind all of the other highly credible circumstantial evidence.
Never mind the fact that the local newspaper - via OFFICIAL word from the local air base - literally announced "RAAF Captures Flying Saucer on Ranch in Roswell Region."
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What was WWII really about? Nazis and aliens?
Hitler was really into the occult.
TCTTS said:
Roswell absolutely, 100% happened.
Military balloon debris recovered in 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico later became the basis for conspiracy theories alleging that the United States military recovered a crashed extraterrestrial spacecraft. The balloon was operated from the nearby Alamogordo Army Air Field and part of the top secret Project Mogul, a program intended to detect Soviet nuclear tests.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident#cite_note-Mogul-1][a][/url] After metallic and rubber debris was recovered by Roswell Army Air Field personnel, the United States Army announced their possession of a "flying disc". This announcement made international headlines, but was retracted within a day. To obscure the purpose and source of the debris, the army reported that it was a conventional weather balloon.
In 1978, retired Air Force officer Jesse Marcel revealed that the army's weather balloon claim had been a cover story, and speculated that the debris was of extraterrestrial origin. Popularized by the 1980 book The Roswell Incident, this speculation became the basis for long-lasting and increasingly complex and contradictory UFO conspiracy theories, which over time expanded the incident to include governments concealing evidence of extraterrestrial beings, grey aliens, multiple crashed flying saucers, alien corpses and autopsies, and the reverse engineering of extraterrestrial technology, none of which have any factual basis.
In the 1990s, the United States Air Force published multiple reports which established that the incident was related to Project Mogul, and not debris from a UFO. Despite this and a general lack of evidence, many UFO proponents claim that the Roswell debris was in fact derived from an alien craft, and accuse the US government of a cover-up. The conspiracy narrative has become a trope in science fiction literature, film, and television. The town of Roswell promotes itself as a destination for UFO-associated tourism.
Do you honestly think that hasn't been discussed and quashed ad nauseum? Too much evidence pointing to Roswell happening without any doubt.
We're past the rubicon of tin hats, point at the weirdos. Do your own research and reading and keep the wiki articles out of this discussion.
We're past the rubicon of tin hats, point at the weirdos. Do your own research and reading and keep the wiki articles out of this discussion.
Indiana Jones movies are probably not all fiction. The nazis were VERY into the occult. Look up Die Glocke.
As TKEAg04 alluded to, every word of that has been thoroughly debunked for years. And not just by tin-foil-hat-wearing types, but by credible expert after expert, in utterly convincing fashion. That's all, like, rookie-level-skeptic bull**** that even the hardest skeptics moved on from years ago.
Again, this is a two-and-a-half-year, 176-page, 6154-reply thread, and you're coming in here acting like you're bestowing us with knowledge/arguments we've never heard or considered, on the most famous UFO topic of all time. Never mind the fact that any minimal research beyond Wiki-****ing-pedia will convince even you that those explanations/cover stories have holes big enough for a flying saucer to fly through.
Again, this is a two-and-a-half-year, 176-page, 6154-reply thread, and you're coming in here acting like you're bestowing us with knowledge/arguments we've never heard or considered, on the most famous UFO topic of all time. Never mind the fact that any minimal research beyond Wiki-****ing-pedia will convince even you that those explanations/cover stories have holes big enough for a flying saucer to fly through.
Read the Roswell summary in Ralph Blumenthal's biography of John Mack.
Weather balloons
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
TCTTS said:
As TKEAg04 alluded to, every word of that has been thoroughly debunked for years. And not just by tin-foil-hat-wearing types, but by credible expert after expert, in utterly convincing fashion. That's all, like, rookie-level-skeptic bull**** that even the hardest skeptics moved on from years ago.
Again, this is a two-and-a-half-year, 176-page, 6154-reply thread, and you're coming in here acting like you're bestowing us with knowledge/arguments we've never heard or considered, on the most famous UFO topic of all time. Never mind the fact that any minimal research beyond Wiki-****ing-pedia will convince even you that those explanations/cover stories have holes big enough for a flying saucer to fly through.
Got it.
The majority of speculation here, especially recently, is thoroughly backed by people in positions to know who put their names and reputations on the line.
Assuming some lying and misinfo. THEN, let's weigh against the sheer number and credibility of these. (Just with Edgar Mitchell alone, that would be a tall task)
OK, a critic says, arguments from authority are weak. True. NOW, what do we make of the indisputable fact that SOMETHINGS have been breaking our known laws of physics, repeatedly?
That means big situations either way:
Preternatural / aliens / materialism is false
Or
Science is moving in earthshaking ways
Assuming some lying and misinfo. THEN, let's weigh against the sheer number and credibility of these. (Just with Edgar Mitchell alone, that would be a tall task)
OK, a critic says, arguments from authority are weak. True. NOW, what do we make of the indisputable fact that SOMETHINGS have been breaking our known laws of physics, repeatedly?
That means big situations either way:
Preternatural / aliens / materialism is false
Or
Science is moving in earthshaking ways
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